Why Don't I Look Like I'm Losing Weight

OMFGItzAndre
OMFGItzAndre Posts: 33 Member
edited November 13 in Motivation and Support
I started working out back in 2013 I weigh about over 315 back then.I'm trying to get into the Navy and my weight requirements at 6.2 are 211 pounds.I just recently got on the scale and it shows I'm 221.6 pounds I notice I lost weight in lots of areas of my body but In certain areas I still am a fat S.O.B..when I take off my cloths by belly pretty much look like a pregnant women (no offence ladies) and I have fat thighs and *kitten*.

It's ridiculous I workout everyday for like an hour 1/2 and for some reason I'm not seeing results as I should I have a deadline to leave to the military before august then I'm kicked out of my parents folks house and It seems hopeless If i don't look the part no mater how much the weight scale says I won't be accepted into the service...

any thoughts,views and opinions on this matter people?






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here i am the left is my current about 221 and the right is when I was about 315



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  • queenliz99
    queenliz99 Posts: 15,317 Member
    edited March 2015
    To lose weight you need to eat in a deficit, exercise is for health.
  • OMFGItzAndre
    OMFGItzAndre Posts: 33 Member
    edited March 2015
    bump
  • queenliz99
    queenliz99 Posts: 15,317 Member
    edited March 2015
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  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
    edited March 2015
    I'm having trouble understanding the problem. You've lost almost 100 pounds, and from those pics, it shows, big time.

    Why not just keep doing whatever it is that you've been doing?
  • shannonbun
    shannonbun Posts: 168 Member
    You definitely can tell you lost a lot of weight. For taller persons, weight loss isn't always as apparent as it is on someone shorter/smaller because we often distribute it easier. The Navy will focus on your weight as a requirement, but to "look the part" add in more strength training to bulk up and be sure to eat at a calorie deficit. Don't shortchange yourself, you really can tell you lost tons of weight :)
  • greenmm25
    greenmm25 Posts: 175 Member
    you look great btw, and you can't really just target one spot but just keep going maybe try a new activity and that my just give you the bump you need to reach that ultimate goal. Again great work already!!!!
  • Hearts_2015
    Hearts_2015 Posts: 12,032 Member
    Mr_Knight wrote: »
    I'm having trouble understanding the problem. You've lost almost 100 pounds, and from those pics, it shows, big time.

    Why not just keep doing whatever it is that you've been doing?

    I'm a wee bit confused myself. You really don't notice the difference in your two photos? I know sometimes we get caught up in seeing what we want to change and not what has already changed. Maybe that's what's going on with you at the moment? You look like half the person you were.

    Great job, you look terrific!

    I'm sorry you're frustrated, you've got until August, are you lifting weights...you've still got time!
  • enterdanger
    enterdanger Posts: 2,447 Member
    You look great. You are obviously putting in the effort. Unfortunately, as they keep telling me, you can't spot reduce. I have a big belly from having babies. I've lost a ton of inches everywhere else (even my upper arms which has always been a problem area for me.) All that did was make my tum look even bigger.

    40lbs and a year has dropped me 2 shirt sizes but only 1 pant size. I've made an impact, but not as much in the stomach area as I'd like. Keep plugging away. You have time and only 10lbs to lose. The recruiters for the military aren't going to be ogling you with your clothes off. At least, I hope not.
  • Charliegottheruns
    Charliegottheruns Posts: 286 Member
    Try focusing more on fitness goals and healthy living activities that will complement weight loss. Challenge yourself beyond anything you've ever done.
  • OMFGItzAndre
    OMFGItzAndre Posts: 33 Member
    Mr_Knight wrote: »
    I'm having trouble understanding the problem. You've lost almost 100 pounds, and from those pics, it shows, big time.

    Why not just keep doing whatever it is that you've been doing?

    I'm a wee bit confused myself. You really don't notice the difference in your two photos? I know sometimes we get caught up in seeing what we want to change and not what has already changed. Maybe that's what's going on with you at the moment? You look like half the person you were.

    Great job, you look terrific!

    I'm sorry you're frustrated, you've got until August, are you lifting weights...you've still got time!

    Yes I said from the start of the post that I do notice the difference,However.... certain areas in my body gives me the mindset I don't.
  • Dragn77
    Dragn77 Posts: 810 Member
    You look great...and have only 11lbs to go to meet the requirement. Not true that you wont qualify if you dont *look the part* not even sure what that means!! The military isnt looking for perfect bodies..as long as you fit the requirement, they will whip you into shape. They even have something for that..its called boot camp ;)

    Seriously..when I joined, a good number of people were overweight. Six weeks later, everyone looked like a completely different person. Trust me...the military doesnt expect you to look like a soldier when you join...They put you through the process so that you can become one.

    Don't stress, you've come this far already. Keep your eye on the goal..you will lose those last 11lbs by August. What happens after that is up to your drill sergeant.
  • OMFGItzAndre
    OMFGItzAndre Posts: 33 Member
    Yes I notice in the change size of cloths I wear I used to wear 4x now it's down to xl which is to me Super awesome.

    to be honest if I didn't have a ridiculous fat belly I be more appreciated on my change but I can see my hidden abs which does get me some encouragement.

  • OMFGItzAndre
    OMFGItzAndre Posts: 33 Member
    Dragn77 wrote: »
    You look great...and have only 11lbs to go to meet the requirement. Not true that you wont qualify if you dont *look the part* not even sure what that means!! The military isnt looking for perfect bodies..as long as you fit the requirement, they will whip you into shape. They even have something for that..its called boot camp ;)

    Seriously..when I joined, a good number of people were overweight. Six weeks later, everyone looked like a completely different person. Trust me...the military doesnt expect you to look like a soldier when you join...They put you through the process so that you can become one.

    Don't stress, you've come this far already. Keep your eye on the goal..you will lose those last 11lbs by August. What happens after that is up to your drill sergeant.

    I really hope so for my sakes Its a dream for me to go into the service but of course I wan't to look like a super solider (super sailor).

    Nothing wrong trying to look good on the side for the ladies :)
  • OMFGItzAndre
    OMFGItzAndre Posts: 33 Member
    Try focusing more on fitness goals and healthy living activities that will complement weight loss. Challenge yourself beyond anything you've ever done.

    :) I try to change up my activity thank you.
  • DancingMoosie
    DancingMoosie Posts: 8,619 Member
    What kind of workouts are you doing? Are you doing any strength training? Building some muscle might help your body look more how you want it to.
  • OMFGItzAndre
    OMFGItzAndre Posts: 33 Member
    You look great. You are obviously putting in the effort. Unfortunately, as they keep telling me, you can't spot reduce. I have a big belly from having babies. I've lost a ton of inches everywhere else (even my upper arms which has always been a problem area for me.) All that did was make my tum look even bigger.

    40lbs and a year has dropped me 2 shirt sizes but only 1 pant size. I've made an impact, but not as much in the stomach area as I'd like. Keep plugging away. You have time and only 10lbs to lose. The recruiters for the military aren't going to be ogling you with your clothes off. At least, I hope not.

    Yeah these love handles are such a nuisance to me soon they will go away.
  • OMFGItzAndre
    OMFGItzAndre Posts: 33 Member
    edited March 2015
    What kind of workouts are you doing? Are you doing any strength training? Building some muscle might help your body look more how you want it to.

    I started doing strength training by using my gyms ab crunch machine so far im doing 40 pounds on it and try to do 100 reps everyday when I attend

    that also goes the same with chin/pull up assist machine I use that everyday it various on the weight I put I got to the point I can do at least 1 pull up without assitance.

    I started incorporating smiths bench press machine and leg press machine.

    that's about it for strength training I go down.

    for cardio I do an hour on the treadmill and try to burn 1000 within an hour and do 5 miles within that time which I do.
  • Dragn77
    Dragn77 Posts: 810 Member
    edited March 2015
    Dragn77 wrote: »
    You look great...and have only 11lbs to go to meet the requirement. Not true that you wont qualify if you dont *look the part* not even sure what that means!! The military isnt looking for perfect bodies..as long as you fit the requirement, they will whip you into shape. They even have something for that..its called boot camp ;)

    Seriously..when I joined, a good number of people were overweight. Six weeks later, everyone looked like a completely different person. Trust me...the military doesnt expect you to look like a soldier when you join...They put you through the process so that you can become one.

    Don't stress, you've come this far already. Keep your eye on the goal..you will lose those last 11lbs by August. What happens after that is up to your drill sergeant.

    I really hope so for my sakes Its a dream for me to go into the service but of course I wan't to look like a super solider (super sailor).

    Nothing wrong trying to look good on the side for the ladies :)

    Have you already started the enlistment process? If so, then you have your recruiter to talk to right? They should be right there for you every step of the way here to help you with advice on what you need to enlist and what your requirements are to reach your goals.

    If you havnt enlisted yet, I would go ahead and do so... that way you get that support, and also the actual information on what you need to be doing, as well as some idea of what you can expect in basic. (Unless they are like my recruiter who told me basic training was kind of like summer camp. LIAR! lmfao!!!)

    Anyway, seriously, you cant be a super sailor, until you actually are in the environment and are trained to be one...and with that, you will also look like one. And the ladies do like a man in uniform. So get to enlisting. Dont wait until August.

    I know when I joined...it was about 2 months between the time I signed up, to the time I signed "the dotted line" and was sent to basic training...and I was already fit and had everything I needed done squared away. Its just that the military is the govt..everything takes its own sweet time. So yeah, if you *must* be out of the house by Aug, plan ahead. Do it now.
  • arditarose
    arditarose Posts: 15,573 Member
    What kind of workouts are you doing? Are you doing any strength training? Building some muscle might help your body look more how you want it to.

    I started doing strength training by using my gyms ab crunch machine so far im doing 40 pounds on it and try to do 100 reps everyday when I attend

    that also goes the same with chin/pull up assist machine I use that everyday it various on the weight I put I got to the point I can do at least 1 pull up without assitance.

    I started incorporating smiths bench press machine and leg press machine.

    that's about it for strength training I go down.

    for cardio I do an hour on the treadmill and try to burn 1000 within an hour and do 5 miles within that time which I do.

    That's a lot of cardio and a little strength training. You lost a lot of weight and you look great. Looking into a more serious strength training routine and following it will definitely change your body.
  • OMFGItzAndre
    OMFGItzAndre Posts: 33 Member
    Dragn77 wrote: »
    Dragn77 wrote: »
    You look great...and have only 11lbs to go to meet the requirement. Not true that you wont qualify if you dont *look the part* not even sure what that means!! The military isnt looking for perfect bodies..as long as you fit the requirement, they will whip you into shape. They even have something for that..its called boot camp ;)

    Seriously..when I joined, a good number of people were overweight. Six weeks later, everyone looked like a completely different person. Trust me...the military doesnt expect you to look like a soldier when you join...They put you through the process so that you can become one.

    Don't stress, you've come this far already. Keep your eye on the goal..you will lose those last 11lbs by August. What happens after that is up to your drill sergeant.

    I really hope so for my sakes Its a dream for me to go into the service but of course I wan't to look like a super solider (super sailor).

    Nothing wrong trying to look good on the side for the ladies :)

    Have you already started the enlistment process? If so, then you have your recruiter to talk to right? They should be right there for you every step of the way here to help you with advice on what you need to enlist and what your requirements are to reach your goals.

    If you havnt enlisted yet, I would go ahead and do so... that way you get that support, and also the actual information on what you need to be doing, as well as some idea of what you can expect in basic. (Unless they are like my recruiter who told me basic training was kind of like summer camp. LIAR! lmfao!!!)

    Anyway, seriously, you cant be a super sailor, until you actually are in the environment and are trained to be one...and with that, you will also look like one. And the ladies do like a man in uniform. So get to enlisting. Dont wait until August.

    I know when I joined...it was about 2 months between the time I signed up, to the time I signed "the dotted line" and was sent to basic training...and I was already fit and had everything I needed done squared away. Its just that the military is the govt..everything takes its own sweet time. So yeah, if you *must* be out of the house by Aug, plan ahead. Do it now.

    unfortunately mam I spoke with them on a constant basis not much they can do for me just that once you get down to our weight standards or body fat when we can start the process.

    So at this point I'm just been trying to get to their requirements so I can be measure again for like the 15th time haha.

    I'm trying all different types of ways on how to lose this weight/look good even faster any advice can be helpful.
  • OMFGItzAndre
    OMFGItzAndre Posts: 33 Member
    arditarose wrote: »
    What kind of workouts are you doing? Are you doing any strength training? Building some muscle might help your body look more how you want it to.

    I started doing strength training by using my gyms ab crunch machine so far im doing 40 pounds on it and try to do 100 reps everyday when I attend

    that also goes the same with chin/pull up assist machine I use that everyday it various on the weight I put I got to the point I can do at least 1 pull up without assitance.

    I started incorporating smiths bench press machine and leg press machine.

    that's about it for strength training I go down.

    for cardio I do an hour on the treadmill and try to burn 1000 within an hour and do 5 miles within that time which I do.

    That's a lot of cardio and a little strength training. You lost a lot of weight and you look great. Looking into a more serious strength training routine and following it will definitely change your body.

    really that's a little strength? didn't think of that.I'm surprise someone says that's a lot of cardio.yeah lifting weight not only bored me the death I lose fun,for some reason I love running more then lifting metal haha.Any advice on what strength training I should take?
  • Dragn77
    Dragn77 Posts: 810 Member
    edited March 2015
    unfortunately mam I spoke with them on a constant basis not much they can do for me just that once you get down to our weight standards or body fat when we can start the process.

    So at this point I'm just been trying to get to their requirements so I can be measure again for like the 15th time haha.

    I'm trying all different types of ways on how to lose this weight/look good even faster any advice can be helpful.

    Okay, so yeah...dont even think about how you "look" or trying to look like you have a military body. So theyve already told you...get down to weight / body fat % to meet the requirements and you're good to go. Thats all you need to focus on...!! Don't stress yourself out with erroneous details.

    You are already doing it...you only have 11lbs to go!!! You've come this far already. Youve got this.
  • arditarose
    arditarose Posts: 15,573 Member
    arditarose wrote: »
    What kind of workouts are you doing? Are you doing any strength training? Building some muscle might help your body look more how you want it to.

    I started doing strength training by using my gyms ab crunch machine so far im doing 40 pounds on it and try to do 100 reps everyday when I attend

    that also goes the same with chin/pull up assist machine I use that everyday it various on the weight I put I got to the point I can do at least 1 pull up without assitance.

    I started incorporating smiths bench press machine and leg press machine.

    that's about it for strength training I go down.

    for cardio I do an hour on the treadmill and try to burn 1000 within an hour and do 5 miles within that time which I do.

    That's a lot of cardio and a little strength training. You lost a lot of weight and you look great. Looking into a more serious strength training routine and following it will definitely change your body.

    really that's a little strength? didn't think of that.I'm surprise someone says that's a lot of cardio.yeah lifting weight not only bored me the death I lose fun,for some reason I love running more then lifting metal haha.Any advice on what strength training I should take?

    Yeah! I get it. We all like some things more than others. It's important to really get that strength training in as you lose, because you lose muscle too...but when you strength train and eat the proper amount of protein, you can save as much as possible and be more happy with your end result.

    I lost all my weight doing strength training and very little cardio-two hours a week max, and often less. I kept a lot of muscle instead of losing it, and didn't have to get to a low weight on the scale to be happy.

    Anyway, Strong Lifts 5x5 is a great beginner program. Gotta squat, bench, dead lift, and OHP press my friend.

    That ab cruncher thing can go.
  • OMFGItzAndre
    OMFGItzAndre Posts: 33 Member
    Dragn77 wrote: »
    unfortunately mam I spoke with them on a constant basis not much they can do for me just that once you get down to our weight standards or body fat when we can start the process.

    So at this point I'm just been trying to get to their requirements so I can be measure again for like the 15th time haha.

    I'm trying all different types of ways on how to lose this weight/look good even faster any advice can be helpful.

    Okay, so yeah...dont even think about how you "look" or trying to look like you have a military body. So theyve already told you...get down to weight / body fat % to meet the requirements and you're good to go. Thats all you need to focus on...!! Don't stress yourself out with erroneous details.

    You are already doing it...you only have 11lbs to go!!! You've come this far already. Youve got this.

    I know it's just... I kinda diffracted away from how close I am to losing weight and now wanting to look hot haha.

    but yeah you're right I'm at certain when I get into basic training I'll be transformed :)
  • arditarose
    arditarose Posts: 15,573 Member
    Dragn77 wrote: »
    unfortunately mam I spoke with them on a constant basis not much they can do for me just that once you get down to our weight standards or body fat when we can start the process.

    So at this point I'm just been trying to get to their requirements so I can be measure again for like the 15th time haha.

    I'm trying all different types of ways on how to lose this weight/look good even faster any advice can be helpful.

    Okay, so yeah...dont even think about how you "look" or trying to look like you have a military body. So theyve already told you...get down to weight / body fat % to meet the requirements and you're good to go. Thats all you need to focus on...!! Don't stress yourself out with erroneous details.

    You are already doing it...you only have 11lbs to go!!! You've come this far already. Youve got this.

    I know it's just... I kinda diffracted away from how close I am to losing weight and now wanting to look hot haha.

    but yeah you're right I'm at certain when I get into basic training I'll be transformed :)

    Only natural! Good luck OP :)
  • OMFGItzAndre
    OMFGItzAndre Posts: 33 Member
    arditarose wrote: »
    arditarose wrote: »
    What kind of workouts are you doing? Are you doing any strength training? Building some muscle might help your body look more how you want it to.

    I started doing strength training by using my gyms ab crunch machine so far im doing 40 pounds on it and try to do 100 reps everyday when I attend

    that also goes the same with chin/pull up assist machine I use that everyday it various on the weight I put I got to the point I can do at least 1 pull up without assitance.

    I started incorporating smiths bench press machine and leg press machine.

    that's about it for strength training I go down.

    for cardio I do an hour on the treadmill and try to burn 1000 within an hour and do 5 miles within that time which I do.

    That's a lot of cardio and a little strength training. You lost a lot of weight and you look great. Looking into a more serious strength training routine and following it will definitely change your body.

    really that's a little strength? didn't think of that.I'm surprise someone says that's a lot of cardio.yeah lifting weight not only bored me the death I lose fun,for some reason I love running more then lifting metal haha.Any advice on what strength training I should take?

    Yeah! I get it. We all like some things more than others. It's important to really get that strength training in as you lose, because you lose muscle too...but when you strength train and eat the proper amount of protein, you can save as much as possible and be more happy with your end result.

    I lost all my weight doing strength training and very little cardio-two hours a week max, and often less. I kept a lot of muscle instead of losing it, and didn't have to get to a low weight on the scale to be happy.

    Anyway, Strong Lifts 5x5 is a great beginner program. Gotta squat, bench, dead lift, and OHP press my friend.

    That ab cruncher thing can go.

    woah this strong lift program you suggested has alot of routine to go though.do you exactly have to go by step by step to get that change also is it possible to be able to do this while having cardio on the same day?I try to do EVERYTHING on the same day.
  • hotnumber
    hotnumber Posts: 222 Member
    I understand the struggles of wanting to lose that belly. I tried to eat healthier and exercise to lose my belly, and you know what? My boobs disappeared! LOL (sigh) not exactly what I was hoping for, but I'm gonna keep going... But seriously, if the exercises that you are doing are not producing any results, that means your body has gotten used to it and you have to change up your routine. Try doing a few weeks of exercises that you have not done before (like the elliptical machine, interval training, squats, boxing/kickboxing, look up different workouts on youtube, do the insanity dvd's, p90x) anything to get your muscles out of that rut and working again.
    P.s. you look fantastic!! Losing almost 100lbs is a great accomplishment, and those last 10 pounds are always the hardest
  • arditarose
    arditarose Posts: 15,573 Member
    arditarose wrote: »
    arditarose wrote: »
    What kind of workouts are you doing? Are you doing any strength training? Building some muscle might help your body look more how you want it to.

    I started doing strength training by using my gyms ab crunch machine so far im doing 40 pounds on it and try to do 100 reps everyday when I attend

    that also goes the same with chin/pull up assist machine I use that everyday it various on the weight I put I got to the point I can do at least 1 pull up without assitance.

    I started incorporating smiths bench press machine and leg press machine.

    that's about it for strength training I go down.

    for cardio I do an hour on the treadmill and try to burn 1000 within an hour and do 5 miles within that time which I do.

    That's a lot of cardio and a little strength training. You lost a lot of weight and you look great. Looking into a more serious strength training routine and following it will definitely change your body.

    really that's a little strength? didn't think of that.I'm surprise someone says that's a lot of cardio.yeah lifting weight not only bored me the death I lose fun,for some reason I love running more then lifting metal haha.Any advice on what strength training I should take?

    Yeah! I get it. We all like some things more than others. It's important to really get that strength training in as you lose, because you lose muscle too...but when you strength train and eat the proper amount of protein, you can save as much as possible and be more happy with your end result.

    I lost all my weight doing strength training and very little cardio-two hours a week max, and often less. I kept a lot of muscle instead of losing it, and didn't have to get to a low weight on the scale to be happy.

    Anyway, Strong Lifts 5x5 is a great beginner program. Gotta squat, bench, dead lift, and OHP press my friend.

    That ab cruncher thing can go.

    woah this strong lift program you suggested has alot of routine to go though.do you exactly have to go by step by step to get that change also is it possible to be able to do this while having cardio on the same day?I try to do EVERYTHING on the same day.

    hehe. It's just a different fitness mindset/goal. That's what a lifting program looks like.

    I think you can do a bit of cardio on the same day. But the point is, you don't need to do much. Your calorie deficit is doing the fat loss work for you.

    I read the program but practice another so I'm sorry I'm not a huge help in answering your questions about it.
  • OMFGItzAndre
    OMFGItzAndre Posts: 33 Member
    edited March 2015
    hotnumber wrote: »
    I understand the struggles of wanting to lose that belly. I tried to eat healthier and exercise to lose my belly, and you know what? My boobs disappeared! LOL (sigh) not exactly what I was hoping for, but I'm gonna keep going... But seriously, if the exercises that you are doing are not producing any results, that means your body has gotten used to it and you have to change up your routine. Try doing a few weeks of exercises that you have not done before (like the elliptical machine, interval training, squats, boxing/kickboxing, look up different workouts on youtube, do the insanity dvd's, p90x) anything to get your muscles out of that rut and working again.
    P.s. you look fantastic!! Losing almost 100lbs is a great accomplishment, and those last 10 pounds are always the hardest

    you're right when I started my journey I only did elliptical and got tired of just doing that,then I moved to treadmill and liked that better but not I need to incorporate strength within this process I want to be able to run and be graceful like a gazelle and strength of Russian bear!

    sorry about your boobs :'(
  • OMFGItzAndre
    OMFGItzAndre Posts: 33 Member
    arditarose wrote: »
    arditarose wrote: »
    arditarose wrote: »
    What kind of workouts are you doing? Are you doing any strength training? Building some muscle might help your body look more how you want it to.

    I started doing strength training by using my gyms ab crunch machine so far im doing 40 pounds on it and try to do 100 reps everyday when I attend

    that also goes the same with chin/pull up assist machine I use that everyday it various on the weight I put I got to the point I can do at least 1 pull up without assitance.

    I started incorporating smiths bench press machine and leg press machine.

    that's about it for strength training I go down.

    for cardio I do an hour on the treadmill and try to burn 1000 within an hour and do 5 miles within that time which I do.

    That's a lot of cardio and a little strength training. You lost a lot of weight and you look great. Looking into a more serious strength training routine and following it will definitely change your body.

    really that's a little strength? didn't think of that.I'm surprise someone says that's a lot of cardio.yeah lifting weight not only bored me the death I lose fun,for some reason I love running more then lifting metal haha.Any advice on what strength training I should take?

    Yeah! I get it. We all like some things more than others. It's important to really get that strength training in as you lose, because you lose muscle too...but when you strength train and eat the proper amount of protein, you can save as much as possible and be more happy with your end result.

    I lost all my weight doing strength training and very little cardio-two hours a week max, and often less. I kept a lot of muscle instead of losing it, and didn't have to get to a low weight on the scale to be happy.

    Anyway, Strong Lifts 5x5 is a great beginner program. Gotta squat, bench, dead lift, and OHP press my friend.

    That ab cruncher thing can go.

    woah this strong lift program you suggested has alot of routine to go though.do you exactly have to go by step by step to get that change also is it possible to be able to do this while having cardio on the same day?I try to do EVERYTHING on the same day.

    hehe. It's just a different fitness mindset/goal. That's what a lifting program looks like.

    I think you can do a bit of cardio on the same day. But the point is, you don't need to do much. Your calorie deficit is doing the fat loss work for you.

    I read the program but practice another so I'm sorry I'm not a huge help in answering your questions about it.

    oh don't worry I have really no body to give me advice on what strength training I should follow but whatever helps me look good and have great strength performance then I'm down to whatever knowledge you can give me :D
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