How low should carbs be for it to be considered low carb.

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  • JPW1990
    JPW1990 Posts: 2,424 Member
    dbmata wrote: »
    JPW1990 wrote: »
    dbmata wrote: »
    JPW1990 wrote: »
    dbmata wrote: »
    oh ho ho, someone got salty.

    Are people just in a bad mood because it's a beautiful monday?

    Just curious why the people who don't like LC go out of their way to hijack every LC question they see. You don't see other people doing that to questions about lifting or 5:2 or IIFYM. What's with the obsession?
    Why does this hurt you so?


    Because it's more likely they're going to make someone sick than help them. Is there some magic spell, every time 3 people succeed on low carb, they gain a pound? The question is, why does it hurt them so much? Maybe they're Cybermen, and can't deal with anyone being different?
    maybe what none of us says really matters?

    maybe some are adherents of the one true way, and others are adherents of the other true way, while some others are just adherents of the isolated whey.

    Maybe it's just all opinion, and doesn't matter with solid quantitative data showing proof of performance?

    and other times, there is no spoon.

    We should be so lucky.
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    ramen.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    JPW1990 wrote: »
    dbmata wrote: »
    oh ho ho, someone got salty.

    Are people just in a bad mood because it's a beautiful monday?

    Just curious why the people who don't like LC go out of their way to hijack every LC question they see. You don't see other people doing that to questions about lifting or 5:2 or IIFYM. What's with the obsession?

    curious, as to why you feel the need to referee every thread..

    it is a public forum and anyone who wants to comment is going to ..no matter what your opinion on the subject..
  • MKEgal
    MKEgal Posts: 3,250 Member
    edited March 2015
    Here's a table explaning the healthy ranges for the macros, from the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition.
    http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/88/1/1/T1.expansion.html
    carbs, 45 - 65% of calories
    fat, 20 - 35% of calories
    protein, 10 - 35% of calories

    This calculator from the Baylor College of Medicine will tell you not only your BMI, but how many servings of various food groups to eat to maintain that weight.
    https://www.bcm.edu/cnrc-apps/healthyeatingcalculator/eatingCal.html

    For a 52 yo male wanting to be 182 lb (and not knowing your height, I guessed at 5'8"),
    that would put your BMI at 27.7 (in the overweight range),
    and if you're active less than an hour a day you would need 1267 calories.
    163 lb would put your BMI just barely in the healthy range (24.8).

    So if you're aiming for 1267 calories and want to stay in the healthy macro ranges:
    carbs 570-824 cal = 143-206 grams
    fat 253-443 cal = 28-49 g
    protein 127-443 cal = 32-111 g
    (Your carbs are currently about half what your minimum should be.)

    Eating higher protein & lower carbs leads to more weight loss than other eating patterns, if calories are equal. See the studies (with links to read them yourself) here:
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/MKEgal/view/2014-08-09-high-protein-diet-685553
    Try 45% carbs, 20% fat, 35% protein to stay in the healthy ranges.
  • JPW1990
    JPW1990 Posts: 2,424 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    JPW1990 wrote: »
    dbmata wrote: »
    oh ho ho, someone got salty.

    Are people just in a bad mood because it's a beautiful monday?

    Just curious why the people who don't like LC go out of their way to hijack every LC question they see. You don't see other people doing that to questions about lifting or 5:2 or IIFYM. What's with the obsession?

    curious, as to why you feel the need to referee every thread..

    it is a public forum and anyone who wants to comment is going to ..no matter what your opinion on the subject..

    A fan, how nice. How long have you been following me around to keep track of what and where I comment?
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    JPW1990 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    JPW1990 wrote: »
    dbmata wrote: »
    oh ho ho, someone got salty.

    Are people just in a bad mood because it's a beautiful monday?

    Just curious why the people who don't like LC go out of their way to hijack every LC question they see. You don't see other people doing that to questions about lifting or 5:2 or IIFYM. What's with the obsession?

    curious, as to why you feel the need to referee every thread..

    it is a public forum and anyone who wants to comment is going to ..no matter what your opinion on the subject..

    A fan, how nice. How long have you been following me around to keep track of what and where I comment?

    na, not a fan ..

    sounds like a touched off a nerve though...

    I just find the sanctimonious, holier than thou, MFP sub section interesting...
  • SezxyStef
    SezxyStef Posts: 15,267 Member
    JPW1990 wrote: »
    If you want intelligent answers to questions like this, ask them here:
    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-lcd-group

    The main forums are filled with people who have a Dr Oz level of knowledge about low carb, and love to share it every chance they get. The helpful answers tend to get buried in all the BS out here.
    Anything under 150 is low carb. When you get down to the 20-30 range you're dealing with keto, which is a much more regimented thing than simple low carb. For low carb to work, you must replace the missing carbs with fats, and you still have to be at a deficit in order to lose. While it's true a portion of that 4lbs is probably water, depending on how you were eating prior to starting, your continued losses will not be. You won't lose every week, it will fluctuate just like everyone else, but you should find you get hungry less often, and, if you eat at keto levels, you don't get what most people consider "hunger" ever. It's a different feeling of needing food, but it's not the insistent feeling most people talk about when they say they're hungry.

    I think most here have more than a Dr Oz level of knowledge on most things.

    The thing Pro low carbers fail to point out is that when you introduce them back into your diet you get that "sudden" gain bam...which is disheartening to say the least.

    And in the start of low carb you are "hungry"....there is an empty feeling that is hard to fill (speaking from personal knowledge) with anything but carbs and carbs are needed for energy and brain functions.

    Lots who start low carbs are foggy, less energetic and can't seem to do as much as they used to without feeling totally drained and they can't get past that...I know I couldn't...

    As I mentioned speaking from personal experience here...I was low carb until I came here got educated and now realize how important they are and beneficial when exercising etc.
  • Hollywood_Porky
    Hollywood_Porky Posts: 491 Member
    Ginaaa71 wrote: »
    Wow. What is wrong? Why so negative. Asking for the opinion on what "low carb numbers should be" doesn't mean go off on whether or not it works. We are all stating our opinions not facts. I have done low carb before lost 40lbs in 30 days. It was very strict, under 20grams. I couldn't have lost 40lbs of water. But I went back to eating fast food and lots of it. I gained all 40 back and then some. This time I'm doing lower carb, meaning under 100, aiming for 70g, and getting them from veggies fruit eggs meat. I try to eat only whole grains in moderation, once a day. In MY opinion eating healthy fats are fine, just keep it all in balance under 1400 calories, and aim for 1200 if you are a female. I have lost 14.6 lbs in 20 days doing this, so it's working for me. Play around with your numbers to see what works best for you is my advice.

    Awesome results - and you know what causes the weight gain - the key here is just continuing forward post-weight loss with a sensible diet plan for maintenance.

    I think the key is to avoid the yo-yo dieting effect - don't do low carb (in various zones mind you) just for the sake of weight loss. Eat fiber-rich foods with plenty of protein and healthy fats and you really can't go wrong. When I eat like this consistently, I am always full for hours. Can't be that kind of satiety.
  • JPW1990
    JPW1990 Posts: 2,424 Member
    SezxyStef wrote: »
    JPW1990 wrote: »
    If you want intelligent answers to questions like this, ask them here:
    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-lcd-group

    The main forums are filled with people who have a Dr Oz level of knowledge about low carb, and love to share it every chance they get. The helpful answers tend to get buried in all the BS out here.
    Anything under 150 is low carb. When you get down to the 20-30 range you're dealing with keto, which is a much more regimented thing than simple low carb. For low carb to work, you must replace the missing carbs with fats, and you still have to be at a deficit in order to lose. While it's true a portion of that 4lbs is probably water, depending on how you were eating prior to starting, your continued losses will not be. You won't lose every week, it will fluctuate just like everyone else, but you should find you get hungry less often, and, if you eat at keto levels, you don't get what most people consider "hunger" ever. It's a different feeling of needing food, but it's not the insistent feeling most people talk about when they say they're hungry.

    I think most here have more than a Dr Oz level of knowledge on most things.

    The thing Pro low carbers fail to point out is that when you introduce them back into your diet you get that "sudden" gain bam...which is disheartening to say the least.

    And in the start of low carb you are "hungry"....there is an empty feeling that is hard to fill (speaking from personal knowledge) with anything but carbs and carbs are needed for energy and brain functions.

    Lots who start low carbs are foggy, less energetic and can't seem to do as much as they used to without feeling totally drained and they can't get past that...I know I couldn't...

    As I mentioned speaking from personal experience here...I was low carb until I came here got educated and now realize how important they are and beneficial when exercising etc.

    First, the point of low carb is it's a lifestyle change, not a "diet" you go on and off. Second, if you do go off of it, for whatever reason, and do it correctly, that "sudden" gain shouldn't be more than a lb or 2, and if that's enough to dishearten you after long term dieting where it's normal to have 1-2 lb fluctuations in water weight from week to week, there's a bigger issue that needs addressing.
  • rckk18
    rckk18 Posts: 27 Member
    Wow !!!! that a lot of weight lost in a short time. 40lbs in 30 days.
  • rckk18
    rckk18 Posts: 27 Member
    [ Thank you for taking time to post all that information. It is very helpful.

    Eating higher protein & lower carbs leads to more weight loss than other eating patterns, if calories are equal. See the studies (with links to read them yourself) here:
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/MKEgal/view/2014-08-09-high-protein-diet-685553
    Try 45% carbs, 20% fat, 35% protein to stay in the healthy ranges.
    [/quote]

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