Thinking about going completely Paleo for a week to see how I feel
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OP - what are your goals? Paleo is totally unnecessary for weight loss, fat loss, general health, etc…
and FYI - it has absolutely nothing to do with how real paleolithic people ate.
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tat2cookie wrote: »Going Paleo was the best thing I've ever done. It's really not as hard as everyone makes you think. I make my own mayo, use almond butter instead of peanut butter. coconut Aminos instead of soy sauce. Just listen to your body.
LOL I always love this…
yea, because we all know that paleotlithic man made their own mayo, and had almond butter stashed in their caves….
they really need to change the name to something like…Restrict all the foods just because this diet sounds cool < but I guess that would not sell books...0 -
tat2cookie wrote: »Going Paleo was the best thing I've ever done. It's really not as hard as everyone makes you think. I make my own mayo, use almond butter instead of peanut butter. coconut Aminos instead of soy sauce. Just listen to your body.
LOL I always love this…
yea, because we all know that paleotlithic man made their own mayo, and had almond butter stashed in their caves….
they really need to change the name to something like…Restrict all the foods just because this diet sounds cool < but I guess that would not sell books...
Thank you for not using the misnomer 'cavemen'
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Nony_Mouse wrote: »tat2cookie wrote: »Going Paleo was the best thing I've ever done. It's really not as hard as everyone makes you think. I make my own mayo, use almond butter instead of peanut butter. coconut Aminos instead of soy sauce. Just listen to your body.
LOL I always love this…
yea, because we all know that paleotlithic man made their own mayo, and had almond butter stashed in their caves….
they really need to change the name to something like…Restrict all the foods just because this diet sounds cool < but I guess that would not sell books...
Thank you for not using the misnomer 'cavemen'
YW
I almost did because it is easier to type...0 -
It's also funnier.0
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Ive been following this all day.... it beats unpacking.
If you like mayo and greek yogurt, why not go 'primal' since its paleo plus dairy?
I don't really agree with the term 'paleo' and the 'science' behind it but the premise of largely whole foods makes sense to me. But I dont enjoy cutting out whole food groups so whatevs.
Check out paleomg.com for some recipes if you havent already. And ibreatheimhungry.com (this is a gluten free and low carb website. There might be dairy, i don't remember)
ETA: i do agree with others who say a week probably isn't long enough to feel any real changes. I believe thats why Whole30 and other sensitivity/elimination diets are 4-6weeks0 -
HannahsMother2012 wrote: »HannahsMother2012 wrote: »Thanks sugarbeat! I have found the group and have had lots of support there
just trying to see if I can close this discussion before it becomes all out WW3! That was not my intention at all and I had no idea (since I'm fairly new) how these types of topics can become all out arguing!
heh- you must be new to the internet.
This conversation has been about as vanilla as they come. Good luck with your journey- and with- you know life. seems like you're gonna need all the help you can get if you think this is excessive.
Thank you! Good luck with your journey as well i guess I have been blessed with a very supportive and loving group of friend and family !
agreeing with you is not the same thing as support.
The people who are giving you push back are the most supportive people who can actually help you met your goals and if you were to open to that concept they are probably the ones who can get you the most success- why? because they do this- we eat live and breathe this stuff- and most of us have had great success with it.
We WILL give you push back. We will NOT always agree with you. But we won't sugar coat it and we can help you achieve your goals.
Do no confuse back patting for support.
Those two are not the same things.0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »It's also funnier.
Ha, yeah. It's just my automatic archaeologist's reaction to see red
. You should see me with Discovery/History channel shows, my ex-partner actually banned me from watching them cos I would get so wound up. 0 -
lishie_rebooted wrote: »Ive been following this all day.... it beats unpacking.
If you like mayo and greek yogurt, why not go 'primal' since its paleo plus dairy?
Mayo is oil plus egg.
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Nony_Mouse wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »It's also funnier.
Ha, yeah. It's just my automatic archaeologist's reaction to see red. You should see me with Discovery/History channel shows, my ex-partner actually banned me from watching them cos I would get so wound up.
Oh, I totally get this. I'm a lawyer, and usually I have high tolerance for lawyer things on TV, but every once in a while something drives me crazy.0 -
Brain dead since I totally know that hahahalemurcat12 wrote: »lishie_rebooted wrote: »Ive been following this all day.... it beats unpacking.
If you like mayo and greek yogurt, why not go 'primal' since its paleo plus dairy?
Mayo is oil plus egg.
Ugh. Thanks =]
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HannahsMother2012 wrote: »3dogsrunning wrote: »HannahsMother2012 wrote: »From my understanding a lot of people who follow the Paleo lifestyle do the 85/15 ratio. 85% of the time thy adhere to the Paleo restictions, and 15% of the time they eat "normal". This seems so reasonable and sustainable to me. Allowing for social gatherings and such where Paleo foods aren't always available. Today I indulged in gluten and dairy, something I've avoided (with the exception of Greek yogurt) for about a month now, and I feel horrible!! I have always thought I have some food sensitivities, hence the interest in such restricted diet. No one can deny its an incredibly healthy way to eat! I'm not interested for weight loss, as stated before, but for the benefits that come from feeding our bodies what it's meant to be fed. Thanks for your input everyone! I appreciate all the angles people view this topic from
There is no reason to avoid gluten unless you have a medical condition. It would require more than just avoiding it for a little while to diagnose. And you are not supposed to introduce more than one eliminated food at a time and give it several days to evaluate.
You also can't judge how "good" or "bad" a food is by how you feel after not eating it for awhile. Our bodies adjust to our diets. Eat low fat for awhile then have a high fat meal and you will experience stomach discomfort. Fat is essential, it is just our bodies have gotten used to digesting the lower fat intake. The same goes for going from a bland diet ot eating something spicy. Even adding more vegetables to ones diet can end up with stomach discomfort.HannahsMother2012 wrote: »From my understanding a lot of people who follow the Paleo lifestyle do the 85/15 ratio. 85% of the time thy adhere to the Paleo restictions, and 15% of the time they eat "normal".
Sounds a lot like a regular balanced diet to me....
Exactly!
Actually, diagnosing celiac disease requires an initial blood test, and depending on those results, a biopsy of the intestine, you MUST eat gluten regularly for those tests to be accurate. So me "avoiding it for more then a little while to diagnose" isn't how this medical condition is diagnosed. This isn't my first go around with avoiding gluten, and each and every time I feel better. I've been tested for celiac disease and the test was negative. I have a strong family history of the disease, and given my experiences with avoiding it, I do think I have a sensitivity. I'm avoiding dairy not because I think I have a sensitivity (although statistics show gluten intolerance and lactose intolerance often go hand in hand) but because after researching the topic, I've come to learn that our bodies are actually not made to digest cow's milk. However, the choices in my diet are personal, and if I feel absolutely wonderful with eating a Paleo diet, then I'm not too sure why one would discourage me from doing so! It's not for everyone and we all have our views, opinions and ways of finding our way to better health. Isn't that why we are here? I posted this in hopes of finding others who share similar views as me, who could maybe offer some insight into the completely Paleo world. So if that is the case, please send me a friend request! I'd love to connect with you
Did you read my previous post? Because I did exactly that. I've tried Paleo, even had positive things to say. I don't think I ever discouraged you from trying it.
I'm sorry I responded. Personally, I like to look at things from all angles, not just the ones that support my own view. I find I learn more that way. Sometimes it changes my mind, sometimes it doesn't.0 -
lishie_rebooted wrote: »
Brain dead since I totally know that hahahalemurcat12 wrote: »lishie_rebooted wrote: »Ive been following this all day.... it beats unpacking.
If you like mayo and greek yogurt, why not go 'primal' since its paleo plus dairy?
Mayo is oil plus egg.
Ugh. Thanks =]
Heh, sometimes I have to be pedantic.
I'm stuck between thinking mayo is perfectly paleo and that it's ridiculous to make mayo and call it paleo. (I only like mayo in bizarrely specific usages like deviled eggs, so it's easier for me to make it when I need it than keep it on hand.)0 -
lishie_rebooted wrote: »
Brain dead since I totally know that hahahalemurcat12 wrote: »lishie_rebooted wrote: »Ive been following this all day.... it beats unpacking.
If you like mayo and greek yogurt, why not go 'primal' since its paleo plus dairy?
Mayo is oil plus egg.
Ugh. Thanks =]
TBH, I couldn't remember if it was made with an oil that was "Paleo" or not. I believe commercial brands are made with canola, which is not. I am pretty sure the Whole 30 one is with olive oil, which is not non-paleo, but it is not a preferred oil. I think. It's been awhile and too lazy to check facts.0 -
I always use olive oil for mayo, just because I always have it on hand.
The paleo deal with olive oil (if memory serves) is that it has a bad omega 6 to omega 3 ratio and they are always trying to improve that ratio in their diets (the ones who take it super seriously--most of the paleo-ish people I know do not). So they like coconut oil because it's more saturated fat (even before the more recent coconut oil as miracle food stuff). I believe this also makes them suspicious of chicken vs. something like pastured beef.0 -
HannahsMother2012 wrote: »anyone here paleo? How do you like it? I'm very intrigued by the whole concept! With the exception of Greek yogurt, oats, brown rice, lentils, black beans, soya sauce, mayo and cane sugar, I've basically followed a Paleo diet these past few weeks, and I'm thinking about cutting out those last few things for a week or so to see how I feel and how sustainable the Paleo lifestyle is. Looking to hear what you have thought about the Paleo diet!'
excellent, good luck!
It's a week, just long enough to keep it novel.0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »lishie_rebooted wrote: »
Brain dead since I totally know that hahahalemurcat12 wrote: »lishie_rebooted wrote: »Ive been following this all day.... it beats unpacking.
If you like mayo and greek yogurt, why not go 'primal' since its paleo plus dairy?
Mayo is oil plus egg.
Ugh. Thanks =]
Heh, sometimes I have to be pedantic.
I'm stuck between thinking mayo is perfectly paleo and that it's ridiculous to make mayo and call it paleo. (I only like mayo in bizarrely specific usages like deviled eggs, so it's easier for me to make it when I need it than keep it on hand.)
How does making it go?
How long does it last?
I rarely use mayo honestly.
I keep some on hand for chocolate cake (yes I put mayo in my chocolate cake, you don't taste it) and the rare times I want to eat chicken salad (I mix tuna with avocado)
I know the ingredients are egg & oil but the texture skeeves me out lol
Re deviled eggs, isn't there a recipe out there that uses avocado? because I love fried eggs with avocado on top so deviled eggs made with avocado would be delicious to me... lol0 -
lishie_rebooted wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »lishie_rebooted wrote: »
Brain dead since I totally know that hahahalemurcat12 wrote: »lishie_rebooted wrote: »Ive been following this all day.... it beats unpacking.
If you like mayo and greek yogurt, why not go 'primal' since its paleo plus dairy?
Mayo is oil plus egg.
Ugh. Thanks =]
Heh, sometimes I have to be pedantic.
I'm stuck between thinking mayo is perfectly paleo and that it's ridiculous to make mayo and call it paleo. (I only like mayo in bizarrely specific usages like deviled eggs, so it's easier for me to make it when I need it than keep it on hand.)
How does making it go?
How long does it last?
I rarely use mayo honestly.
I keep some on hand for chocolate cake (yes I put mayo in my chocolate cake, you don't taste it) and the rare times I want to eat chicken salad (I mix tuna with avocado)
I know the ingredients are egg & oil but the texture skeeves me out lol
Re deviled eggs, isn't there a recipe out there that uses avocado? because I love fried eggs with avocado on top so deviled eggs made with avocado would be delicious to me... lol
You just whip it in a blender or food processor. You add the oil slowly.
I'm not sure how long it lasts. I always erred on the side of caution and don't keep it long. I only make small batches and I love mayo so it doesn't last long anyway. I also add lemon juice to it which is supposed to help with the shelf life I think.lemurcat12 wrote: »I always use olive oil for mayo, just because I always have it on hand.
The paleo deal with olive oil (if memory serves) is that it has a bad omega 6 to omega 3 ratio and they are always trying to improve that ratio in their diets (the ones who take it super seriously--most of the paleo-ish people I know do not). So they like coconut oil because it's more saturated fat (even before the more recent coconut oil as miracle food stuff). I believe this also makes them suspicious of chicken vs. something like pastured beef.
Yes, I believe you are correct.
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Hand made mayo will last a while, it ain't paleo though.0
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although statistics show gluten intolerance and lactose intolerance often go hand in hand
Probably because half the people who wind up with "gluten" are half way hypochondriacs.
I'm skeptical at best of that statement.I've come to learn that our bodies are actually not made to digest cow's milk.
come again?
Thirdly- if you already have decided you are trying it- why did you come here asking how you about it?
Yup. I have celiac disease and handle lactose just fine. Except... I do have intermittent lactose intolerance that lasts for about 3 weeks after accidental gluten exposure. It sucks.
OP, you eat paleo if it floats your boat, but don't judge yourself "gluten sensitive" based on "feels". FTR, plain Greek yogurt is fairly low in lactose and not likely to trigger upset in mildly lactose intolerant people. When I have my "episodes", it doesn't cause me any upset.
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lemurcat12 wrote: »I always use olive oil for mayo, just because I always have it on hand.
The paleo deal with olive oil (if memory serves) is that it has a bad omega 6 to omega 3 ratio and they are always trying to improve that ratio in their diets (the ones who take it super seriously--most of the paleo-ish people I know do not). So they like coconut oil because it's more saturated fat (even before the more recent coconut oil as miracle food stuff). I believe this also makes them suspicious of chicken vs. something like pastured beef.
Oh, but that's new. Back when paleo first started and was just one book, olive oil for mayo was just fine.
Coconut oil is the new kid on the block.
AND
The forums were ablaze with the wonders of chicken pemmican.
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I'd try it for 6 weeks to get your body fully adapted to the diet then make a decision from there if you want to stick with it or not. A week is way too short of a time period to get a good feel for a diet.
I'm personally not a fan of diets that cut out types of food, but recognize certain people like a strict eat x and not y kind of meal plan.0 -
Flab2Fab27 wrote: »Diets that eliminate complete food groups are usually not sustainable. I considered paleo awhile back and even bought a cookbook with a few awesome recipes. It's expensive & the substitutions in recipes makes shopping a nuisance and way more pricey. I still use some of the recipes but don't eliminate foods from my daily intake to follow a fad diet.
^This...
IMO, conceptually it makes no sense and it's not something you have to do to get lean. That said, follow it if you like, and if you like it, do it.
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HannahsMother2012 wrote: »From my understanding a lot of people who follow the Paleo lifestyle do the 85/15 ratio. 85% of the time thy adhere to the Paleo restictions, and 15% of the time they eat "normal".
Sounds a lot like a regular balanced diet to me....
Exactly...
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It's funny. I had to smile when I saw you post in this thread.Flab2Fab27 wrote: »Diets that eliminate complete food groups are usually not sustainable. I considered paleo awhile back and even bought a cookbook with a few awesome recipes. It's expensive & the substitutions in recipes makes shopping a nuisance and way more pricey. I still use some of the recipes but don't eliminate foods from my daily intake to follow a fad diet.
^This...
IMO, conceptually it makes no sense and it's not something you have to do to get lean. That said, follow it if you like, and if you like it, do it.
Lol!
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lishie_rebooted wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »lishie_rebooted wrote: »
Brain dead since I totally know that hahahalemurcat12 wrote: »lishie_rebooted wrote: »Ive been following this all day.... it beats unpacking.
If you like mayo and greek yogurt, why not go 'primal' since its paleo plus dairy?
Mayo is oil plus egg.
Ugh. Thanks =]
Heh, sometimes I have to be pedantic.
I'm stuck between thinking mayo is perfectly paleo and that it's ridiculous to make mayo and call it paleo. (I only like mayo in bizarrely specific usages like deviled eggs, so it's easier for me to make it when I need it than keep it on hand.)
How does making it go?
How long does it last?
I rarely use mayo honestly.
I keep some on hand for chocolate cake (yes I put mayo in my chocolate cake, you don't taste it) and the rare times I want to eat chicken salad (I mix tuna with avocado)
I know the ingredients are egg & oil but the texture skeeves me out lol
Re deviled eggs, isn't there a recipe out there that uses avocado? because I love fried eggs with avocado on top so deviled eggs made with avocado would be delicious to me... lol
I make deviled eggs about twice a year (once on Easter). I actually used some low cal mayo my sister brought over last year and they came out disgusting, so I will go back to my old ways. Adding avocado sounds good. The mayo is really easy to do if you have a food processor, and probably otherwise but I'm lazy. Apparently some don't like it with olive oil, but if you use the light stuff (which has less of a taste) it works fine, although for something like cake I'd make sure to use the more neutral oil. Other than eggs I've made it for chicken or pasta salad, where an olive oil taste wouldn't be a problem. I always use it right away, so I don't know how long it lasts.
Here are some instructions: http://www.chow.com/recipes/11053-basic-mayonnaise0 -
HannahsMother2012 wrote: »
I said I had posted in hopes to find those who could give me some insight into a completely Paleo diet. I wasnt asking how to go about it.
For a place that is dedicated for health and fitness, I'm starting to see some less then nice comments from people who are sharing a journey to better health. It's disappointing to see and sad that as a newbie, I will be really reluctant to ever post again looking for like minded friends on here, in order to avoid catty remarks from those who don't share my same views. I thought as adults if the topic wasn't one you shared an interest in, one would just keep scrolling. But who am I kidding. It's the Internet and it takes all kinds I guess! I sincerely wish you all to find a lifestyle that works for you as individuals. And I will continue to find what works for me. Thanks to those who gave me insight, encouraged and were able to remain polite. I have found the paleo group that someone has recommended above (thank you!). Is there a way I can close this discussion before it gets out of hand?!
Well put. BTW, I think you have handled all the negative remarks very graciously, and that's refreshing.0 -
If you feel better not including it in your diet then by all means... leave it out.HannahsMother2012 wrote: »This isn't my first go around with avoiding gluten, and each and every time I feel better. I've been tested for celiac disease and the test was negative. I have a strong family history of the disease, and given my experiences with avoiding it, I do think I have a sensitivity.
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Flab2Fab27 wrote: »Diets that eliminate complete food groups are usually not sustainable
Don't tell the vegetarians.0
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