Soylent
Niff314
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Anyone on MFP hop on the Soylent train yet? I've been using it for a week, replacing 2 meals (usually breakfast and lunch) and am loving it. Thought I'd see what others thought of it.
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I don't know but in for the
"Soylent green is people"!0 -
I've been tempted to buy green food coloring. Ya know, for effect.
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I make my own, DIY since I'm not about to wait 6 months for the legit.
Made Choco Drank, Choco Drank premium, and am working on Choco Atoll. You can find them on the diy site.0 -
I honestly didn't believe my sister when she told me about this product. She had to show me the website. "Soylent Green" was before my time, but I still can't take "Soylent" seriously because of the connotation it holds.
As for the product itself, I don't like the idea of drinking all my calories. It also seems like it would get boring after drinking the same thing over and over. I'd rather eat a variety of solid foods. I don't mean to bash your choice to use it, I just feel differently than you do. If its working, then great! As my work mentor would say "Its not wrong, its just different"
I do see some useful applications for it in areas suffering a famine or disaster. A portable, inexpensive, and nutritious food would be invaluable in areas struck by a crisis. From the brief glance at the website that I took, it didn't seem like the creators were trying to go this direction, but I think its a good idea.0 -
I bought it, but haven't used it yet. I hope to hear some feedback too.0
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Sarahliquid wrote: »I bought it, but haven't used it yet. I hope to hear some feedback too.
use it. use it.
I'm sure official is decent.0 -
I use the official Soylent; however mine is the original crowdfunder version, so the version being sold now is slightly different.
In the very beginning when I first got it, it gave me terrible stomach pain and gas, and I thought I wouldn't be able to use it because of this. Strangely, after a year+ hiatus and coming back to my stockpile again (I had purchased a supply for 2 months during their crowd funding campaign), I tried it again, and I now have zero digestive difficulty with it.
I am now replacing all of my work lunches during the week with Soylent, and I love it. I have a very clear morning routine with no guesswork about what I need to assemble before I leave. I use half portions to stay within my calorie deficit, and they usually tide me over well enough until dinner (my largest meal of the day, which has been regular solid food so far).
Since I'm only using it for 5 meals a week and at half portions, my 2 month supply has lasted me a very long time. I am excited, though, to try their latest formula, since they're doing away with the separate oil and adjusting their ratios for carbs/fats/protein.
Overall, I am definitely happy with the product. If I didn't love to eat regular food so much, I'd probably replace more meals with it, but for now it's serving me very well.0 -
Oh they're doing away with the separate oil? I wonder what they used to do that. I use both olive oil and coconut oil in mine. Kind of makes me have to be particular about how I miss it, but it works.0
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I've done a DIY and I liked it a lot. The DIY soylent site has a lot of good recipes.0
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herrspoons wrote: »Whoa! Soylent is real?
Possibly the most awesome news ever.
Dude.0 -
herrspoons wrote: »Whoa! Soylent is real?
Possibly the most awesome news ever.
I can only vouch for the DIY stuff, but pretty damn good.0 -
Oh they're doing away with the separate oil? I wonder what they used to do that. I use both olive oil and coconut oil in mine. Kind of makes me have to be particular about how I miss it, but it works.
They recently updated their blog concerning formula 1.4. Apparently it will be using a blend of powdered oil: sunflower, flaxseed, safflower, algal oils, and maltodextrin.0 -
I have tapioca maltodextrin, I really should have thought of that. >_<0
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Glad to hear there are others using Soylent. I received the original shipment (one month supply) and liked the product, but was not "ready" to start my weight loss/lifestyle change which was the reason I was originally interested in it. The idea of nutritious meals with little thought or preparation really appealed too me. Being able to consume 100% of the vitamins and minerals each day without popping multivitamins to make up for what food I eat, or don't eat, is a great advantage.
I am now finishing off the original shipment of Soylent 1.0 and I am looking forward to trying Soylent 1.4 that I just received. I started the subscription and will receive a 2 week supply each month. I was excited to learn the newer version is lower in carbohydrates and hope it has a similar taste and texture. It is definitely a bonus that I won't have to worry about adding oil either.
I am currently using it for breakfast and lunch most days with a sensible meal for dinner. It seems to be a good balance for me right now and I find myself craving it when I don't follow this routine. The blended balance of nutrients is something that has really made a difference in my overall sense of well-being and have noticed a difference in how I feel. I hope Soylent 1.4 is just as satisfying.0 -
onyxgirl17 wrote: »I don't know but in for the
"Soylent green is people"!
RIGHT lolololo
Man um I would not have the Soylent and why did they choose that name lololo Now I have to go watch that movie again.0 -
Stanford "engineer" with asbergers... you connect whatever dots you want.sarahlifts wrote: »onyxgirl17 wrote: »I don't know but in for the
"Soylent green is people"!
RIGHT lolololo
Man um I would not have the Soylent and why did they choose that name lololo Now I have to go watch that movie again.
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The idea of nutritious meals with little thought or preparation really appealed too me. Being able to consume 100% of the vitamins and minerals each day without popping multivitamins to make up for what food I eat, or don't eat, is a great advantage.
Unfortunately "nutrition" is a lot more complicated than taking a multivitamin. While it's true that you won't develop any serious malnutrition issues (who does these days?), Soylent is far from proven to be nutritious. If you really think ingesting the majority of your calories from Soylent is going to be "healthy" in the long run than I have a bridge to sell you.
And what are you going to do when you get sick of Soylent? Resume your old habits and regain all of the weight you lost?0 -
If the substance is providing all macros and tracked micros, what nutrition and "healthiness" (nebulous, nonsensical term) is missing?
Every tracked RDA micro is hit, and with the DIY you can tailor it directly to what your CBC reflects.
Who is to say Soylent is merely for losing weight? What would happen if it is used for choice, convenience, mass increase, or maintenance?0 -
If the substance is providing all macros and tracked micros, what nutrition and "healthiness" (nebulous, nonsensical term) is missing?
Every tracked RDA micro is hit, and with the DIY you can tailor it directly to what your CBC reflects.
All that means is that you avoid any serious malnutrition. Nothing more. And who gets malnutrition these days? Alcoholics and people with eating disorders. That's about it.
There are a lot of foods out there that have health benefits beyond avoiding malnutrition. And no multivitamin or supplement has ever been shown to give the same health benefits toward longevity that real food like broccoli has.
So while you may be avoiding malnutrition with Soylent, you're still probably missing out on a lot of things found in a diet filled with veggies, fruits, nuts, and fish, etc., that would be very beneficial.Who is to say Soylent is merely for losing weight? What would happen if it is used for choice, convenience, mass increase, or maintenance?
There's nothing wrong with that. Soylent probably makes a great meal replacement shake. But if you're just using it as a meal replacement shake then it's not much different than the plethora of other MRP's on the market.
The only thing that makes Soylent unique is that it's supposed to replace all real food.0 -
What precisely would be very beneficial? What exactly is being "missed"? I'm still researching the "gotchas" myself. So I'd love to see some research supporting the idea that soylent causes malnutrition or just marginally avoids it. I'll be honest, when I first heard about it, I thought it was a really stupid version of Isagenix, but with more hipster cred because of the Stanford connection.
The DIY side is fairly robust in community attempting to "hack" nutrition, and not just stave off malnutrition, but maximize performance, and micronutrient mix. So, researching showing that even the best formulated version of this will only provide a marginal intake benefit would be interesting to read.
The only thing(s) that make soylent unique are:
1. Hipster cred due to a Stanford dip making ridiculous claims.
2. That it is approached as a whole food, as opposed to something silly like isagenix.
3. The "open source" approach and the strong DIY community focused on hacking human nutrition and performance.
4. Extensibility and modularity of the recipe(s).
Still, it's plausible that it's not quite done and has some challenges, as of now there is just anecdata and blood panel claims.0 -
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What precisely would be very beneficial? What exactly is being "missed"?
We know certain foods are associated with health benefits and longevity (eg broccoli, fish, fruits, nuts, etc). We also know that most attempts to recreate these health benefits with supplements or vitamin pills have completely failed. Heck, most vitamin pills are associated with increased mortality.
So why would Soylent be considered healthy? Why would having the minimum amount of nutrients necessary to avoid malnutrition be as healthy as having a vast range of many different anti-oxidants and nutrients from many different foods? Yes, it's true you won't develop malnutrition on Soylent. But nobody gets malnutrition these days. Historically, supplements like MRP's have not been much of long term solution for anything.I'm still researching the "gotchas" myself. So I'd love to see some research supporting the idea that soylent causes malnutrition or just marginally avoids it. I'll be honest, when I first heard about it, I thought it was a really stupid version of Isagenix, but with more hipster cred because of the Stanford connection.
The DIY side is fairly robust in community attempting to "hack" nutrition, and not just stave off malnutrition, but maximize performance, and micronutrient mix. So, researching showing that even the best formulated version of this will only provide a marginal intake benefit would be interesting to read.
The only thing(s) that make soylent unique are:
1. Hipster cred due to a Stanford dip making ridiculous claims.
2. That it is approached as a whole food, as opposed to something silly like isagenix.
3. The "open source" approach and the strong DIY community focused on hacking human nutrition and performance.
4. Extensibility and modularity of the recipe(s).
Still, it's plausible that it's not quite done and has some challenges, as of now there is just anecdata and blood panel claims.
I do think their open source approach is great, but it doesn't change what the product really is. There is still no evidence supporting any benefits from using it.
I imagine if you did a comparison between Soylent and eating mcdonald's food everyday (or some similar "typical american diet") then Soylent might come out on top. But I find it hard to believe it could hold a candle to the mediterranean diet or any reasonable diet with a variety of whole foods.0 -
I'm mostly just curious, though I tend to eat boring/bland stuff during the work week (oatmeal, grits, cream of wheat, etc with added protein) as kitchen stuff is very limited... so kind of wonder if this would work well for that. The DIY's I see are all 1500+calories... so this is meant to be eaten as multiple meals in the day? All at once? I wouldn't want to spend a whole day eating just that -- only to replace work day lunch -- so I can picture storage and waste quickly becoming a problem.
And if all my meals come in one drink... why not spend it on a Sonic shake and some multi-vitamins?
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How do we know this? Where is this "knowledge" located?We know certain foods are associated with health benefits and longevity (eg broccoli, fish, fruits, nuts, etc). We also know that most attempts to recreate these health benefits with supplements or vitamin pills have completely failed. Heck, most vitamin pills are associated with increased mortality.
Depends on the factors utilized.I imagine if you did a comparison between Soylent and eating mcdonald's food everyday (or some similar "typical american diet") then Soylent might come out on top. But I find it hard to believe it could hold a candle to the mediterranean diet or any reasonable diet with a variety of whole foods.
Any set of metrics can be biased one way or the other. As it is, I've not seen any research supporting that the mediterranean diet is the end all be all. So, that's kinda why I'm asking you for research.
You "know" this, I don't. I'd like to "know" this to, so I'd love to see the specific research you've read that gifted you with this knowledge. Links would be great.
As it is, I've seen no research indicating this is unhealthful, non-nutritive, or in any other way negative. Other than the whole, it's not a burger, so you shouldn't have it when you want a burger. Otherwise, I'd post a link or two for discussion, but I can't because there is nothing I've seen that supports it's "bad" or even sub-optimal.
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How do we know this? Where is this "knowledge" located?We know certain foods are associated with health benefits and longevity (eg broccoli, fish, fruits, nuts, etc). We also know that most attempts to recreate these health benefits with supplements or vitamin pills have completely failed. Heck, most vitamin pills are associated with increased mortality.
Depends on the factors utilized.I imagine if you did a comparison between Soylent and eating mcdonald's food everyday (or some similar "typical american diet") then Soylent might come out on top. But I find it hard to believe it could hold a candle to the mediterranean diet or any reasonable diet with a variety of whole foods.
Any set of metrics can be biased one way or the other. As it is, I've not seen any research supporting that the mediterranean diet is the end all be all. So, that's kinda why I'm asking you for research.
You "know" this, I don't. I'd like to "know" this to, so I'd love to see the specific research you've read that gifted you with this knowledge. Links would be great.
As it is, I've seen no research indicating this is unhealthful, non-nutritive, or in any other way negative. Other than the whole, it's not a burger, so you shouldn't have it when you want a burger. Otherwise, I'd post a link or two for discussion, but I can't because there is nothing I've seen that supports it's "bad" or even sub-optimal.
There is a plethora of research demonstrating the health benefits of foods like veggies, broccoli, fish, nuts, etc., published in all sorts of major journals. The research is well known to anybody remotely educated about health. If you aren't aware of it then you shouldn't be commenting on nutrition. Although I suspect that you are aware, but are just playing the devil's advocate.
If I make any controversial claims then sure I'll post links. But I'm not going to post links proving broccoli is associated with health benefits. I'm not going to link every well known study published in the past 20 years that demonstrated veggies and fish are good for you. Nor will I link any of the well known studies that associate MVI's with either no benefits or increased mortality.
Now where is the data suggesting that Soylent has any health benefits?
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Seems like the people who *aren't* using Soylent are far more vocal than those who *are*. Which seems to be par for the course, I've found.
I'm going to keep using it because 1) I enjoy it, and 2) It has been helping with my fatigue and inflammation issues.
It's simple...if you don't want to use Soylent, well, then...don't.
If you need documentation on proof of health benefits, here you go:
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/01/soylent-gets-tested-scores-a-surprisingly-wholesome-nutritional-label/0 -
You're making generic non-claims. "Hey bro, veggies are good for you." Yeah... big risk there.
There is a plethora of research demonstrating the health benefits of foods like veggies, broccoli, fish, nuts, etc., published in all sorts of major journals. The research is well known to anybody remotely educated about health. If you aren't aware of it then you shouldn't be commenting on nutrition. Although I suspect that you are aware, but are just playing the devil's advocate.
What you're not making a compelling case for is your perceptionally questionable and seemingly unreasonable claim that Soylent is in some way "unhealthful", comprised of low quality materials, and likely to cause harm. Hey, in 5 years there might be data proving that it's not good, but for now, you're not talking with any basis. I know it, you know it. That's why I'm asking if you do have basis, as you might be privy to specific and useful research I'm not.
That's not really how research works, but as far as a consumer product, Niff's article is a lot more quality than most other products will ever have, even ones we consider "healthy" and such.Now where is the data suggesting that Soylent has any health benefits?
You don't like the idea of soylent, cool. I feel you. If I wasn't as busy as I am, and needing some specific electrolytic levels, I'd be right there with you saying, "But bros, I like to chew my food." Not liking something though is not basis to call it nutritionally bereft, unhealthy, marginal, etc. Otherwise, I'd have decreed two decades ago that sea urchin and durian was trash and deleterious to general overall health.
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All I know is - Soylent makes it hella easy to fill out my food log. 0
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I'm in Australia, so am not familiar with soylent. How does it differ from other meal replacement shakes?0
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