**Misconception**
jtabiolo
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People often perceive that losing weight is the same thing as losing body fat. That is totally false. Your goal should always be trying to lose body fat. The reason is when most people's goal is to lose the weight, often at the end they still have a high body fat percentage. They've been in a caloric deficit but not really burning off the fat. So what they do is lower there calories but have a low intensity workout such as a slow pace on an exercise machine. Just because you see calories burn of a treadmill doesn't translate into body fat loss. I can walk on a treadmill and burn 700 calories but how much body have have you actual lost. So your mindset should be, to lose body fat percentage.
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Totally false.........no. While losing weight doesn't essentially mean ALL the weight lost was body fat, to say that it's false would be disingenuous. If one is losing weight and clothing size is reducing to smaller sizes, then obviously some fat loss is happening.
One could do HIIT exercise and burn calories, but how much body fat was lost? Yes the goal to lose body fat is desired by most everyone, but you gave no actual resolve on how it should be done. I'd like to see your answer.
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@ninerbuff When losing weight, the way to lose just fat is by adding strength training into your fitness program. You just can't try to lose weight simply by performing cardio. The pounds you lose through cardio will come right back if you stop the cardio, without muscle mass to keep the weight off. When you add muscle, you improve the body fat composition ratio, which is the main goal. You shouldn't just be concerned with a smaller number on the scale0
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People often perceive that losing weight is the same thing as losing body fat. That is totally false. Your goal should always be trying to lose body fat. The reason is when most people's goal is to lose the weight, often at the end they still have a high body fat percentage. They've been in a caloric deficit but not really burning off the fat. So what they do is lower there calories but have a low intensity workout such as a slow pace on an exercise machine. Just because you see calories burn of a treadmill doesn't translate into body fat loss. I can walk on a treadmill and burn 700 calories but how much body have have you actual lost. So your mindset should be, to lose body fat percentage.
At least the title of your own thread, matches your posts perfectly
Misconception indeed... 0 -
That post is terribly unhelpful to anyone who can't read your mind....0
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What great advice! You totally cleared up my misconceptions and... wait... no, nothing.0
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Agree with this bit "so your mindset should be, to lose body fat percentage".
But the rest of your OP is full of misconceptions.0 -
If you're not in calorie deficit, it's probably not going to happen.@ninerbuff When losing weight, the way to lose just fat is by adding strength training into your fitness program.
Hate to tell you that if you stop strength training, the muscle will atrophy and metabolic rate will drop and if one continues to eat the same, the pounds will come back on.You just can't try to lose weight simply by performing cardio. The pounds you lose through cardio will come right back if you stop the cardio, without muscle mass to keep the weight off.
While true, adding muscle while in calorie deficit is possible, but likely improbable for the majority of people trying to it. Impatience (it's a long process) and lack of knowledge, will redirect people wanting to lose weight to what they can measure and that's going to be scale weight.When you add muscle, you improve the body fat composition ratio, which is the main goal. You shouldn't just be concerned with a smaller number on the scale
Didn't clarify much at all here with your analogy.
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@ninerbuff When losing weight, the way to lose just fat is by adding strength training into your fitness program. You just can't try to lose weight simply by performing cardio. The pounds you lose through cardio will come right back if you stop the cardio, without muscle mass to keep the weight off. When you add muscle, you improve the body fat composition ratio, which is the main goal. You shouldn't just be concerned with a smaller number on the scale
I love the smell of broscience in the morning.......
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Alatariel75 wrote: »What great advice! You totally cleared up my misconceptions and... wait... no, nothing.
^^ THIS ^^
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SO much wrong in the OP its funny.0
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I'm in for the second horrible thread started by the OP.0
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Can't we just say that cardio doesn't add muscle mass and that you should do strength training as well. Any changes you make to lose weight have to be maintained to stay at goal, it's all a lifestyle change.0
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can I ask what's with the *TITLES*
and heh- I read that as *TITTIES*
which makes me chuckle... but I don't understand the air quotes- that are real quotes.
I'm confused.
But I do appreciate the OP dropping some knowledge on us today.0 -
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It could definitely be phrased differently, but I got what he was saying.
Basically, if you lose weight, you might be losing fat and a bit of lean muscle as well while in a calorie deficit. Keeping your protein goals high ( .8 or 1 g per 1lb of lean body mass is a decent goal) and strength training can prevent LBM loss. The more lean muscle tissue you have, the higher your resting metabolic rate (RMR), the more calories you burn when you're just sitting there.
So, eat a lot of protein, strength train (body weight exercises count too), don't stay in a major calorie deficit for months and months without giving yourself a break and eating at maintenance, drink lots of water, do the exercises you enjoy, be honest with yourself, be reasonable about your goals, and be patient to reap the benefits.0 -
So to understand this correctly the OP is essentially stating that your body uses nutrients to fuel itself and not all of this will directly be fat burned (I hope everyone here understands this). I'd agree that weight isn't always the best way to judge overall fitness especially when you are trying to add muscle mass and are already relatively lean. However, for losing inches off a waist line weight isn't a bad measure either and is very easy to track.0
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And I agree that people should incorporate resistance training into their routine to preserve their muscle mass as they lose, and people should be more interested in BF% than goal weight.
I just feel like the original post didn't quite say that (yes, you CAN lose fat doing cardio) and it was just too full of incorrect information.0 -
I can walk on a treadmill and burn 700 calories but how much body have have you actual lost. So your mindset should be, to lose body fat percentage.
If you walk on the treadmill, I have lost no body. Maybe I lost the body I left with my car keys, I can't find them.
Dude, my mindset should be aligned with my goals which are performance related and not bf% related. I expect I'll drop in bf% but eff if that is what my mindset should be.
You do you, get off my mindset, kid.
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Some truth there but surely you don't expect everyone to want to lift weights!!! To be honest, I think it's the epitome of boring! I'd rather balance my exercise regimes with cardio and toning sessions alongside lots of stretching, Pilates and Yoga! In all honesty, just because you're 'ripped' doesn't mean that your way of losing body fat/mass/dropping a clothing size is right for everyone else!! So *misconception* I think is a little strong..0
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Can't we just say that cardio doesn't add muscle mass and that you should do strength training as well. Any changes you make to lose weight have to be maintained to stay at goal, it's all a lifestyle change.
Not all cardio is created equal so no you can't make generalisations like that.
Ever seen a cyclist with good leg muscles or a rower with a good overall physique?
(And no I'm not saying just do cardio before this degenerates into another polarised cardio v strength training thread. I've got a foot firmly in both camps!)0 -
And I agree that people should incorporate resistance training into their routine to preserve their muscle mass as they lose, and people should be more interested in BF% than goal weight.
I just feel like the original post didn't quite say that (yes, you CAN lose fat doing cardio) and it was just too full of incorrect information.
Mabee.
I agree with the general concepts but for the average Jane or Joe doing some sort of resistance training (and not necessarily a heavily lifting routine) during reasonable rate weight loss will translate into fat loss. Every single time. An exercise regimen that is adhered to and in line with personal goals and preferences works.
The OP seems to have a monolithic solution for all which is, of course, nonsense.0 -
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All I was sayin is there is a big difference between losing weight and losing body fat percentage. Peoples midset should be to lose body fat percentage rather than looking at the scale to see the lowest number.
I'm not saying just to lift weights and so forth. I'm saying people should incorporate some type of strength training (doesn't have to be weights) to not just lose weight but lose body fat percentage. Yea doing only cardio may drop a lot of weight, but by doing weight training plus cardio will help lower your body fat.0 -
All I was sayin is there is a big difference between losing weight and losing body fat percentage. Peoples midset should be to lose body fat percentage rather than looking at the scale to see the lowest number.
I'm not saying just to lift weights and so forth. I'm saying people should incorporate some type of strength training (doesn't have to be weights) to not just lose weight but lose body fat percentage. Yea doing only cardio may drop a lot of weight, but by doing weight training plus cardio will help lower your body fat.
This was much better stated than your original post.0 -
All I was sayin is there is a big difference between losing weight and losing body fat percentage. Peoples midset should be to lose body fat percentage rather than looking at the scale to see the lowest number.
I'm not saying just to lift weights and so forth. I'm saying people should incorporate some type of strength training (doesn't have to be weights) to not just lose weight but lose body fat percentage. Yea doing only cardio may drop a lot of weight, but by doing weight training plus cardio will help lower your body fat.
Are everyone's goals the same? Stop making assumptions.
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Someone who is strength training & cardio will reach their goal much rapidly than someone that is just doing cardio. You tell me one trainer that will tell their client, do nothing but cardio. Absolutely none. Every trainer incorporates some type of strength training to their ability. You burn more calories and body fat at the same time. It's not bro science.0
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Oh thank god, we can just do away with weight classes in competition now, because some internet rando says it's the wrong goal.
I want to see Frank Mir vs. Mayweather in an 11% BF title match.0 -
Someone who is strength training & cardio will reach their goal much rapidly than someone that is just doing cardio. You tell me one trainer that will tell their client, do nothing but cardio. Absolutely none. Every trainer incorporates some type of strength training to their ability. You burn more calories and body fat at the same time. It's not bro science.
What does a trainer have to do with this? Your all over the place. All of that means nothing if the diet is not correct. So you're still wrong.
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yopeeps025 wrote: »All I was sayin is there is a big difference between losing weight and losing body fat percentage. Peoples midset should be to lose body fat percentage rather than looking at the scale to see the lowest number.
I'm not saying just to lift weights and so forth. I'm saying people should incorporate some type of strength training (doesn't have to be weights) to not just lose weight but lose body fat percentage. Yea doing only cardio may drop a lot of weight, but by doing weight training plus cardio will help lower your body fat.
Are everyone's goals the same? Stop making assumptions.
I was targeting people who say they "want to lose weight" now to save them time they should incorporate some type of strength training. You know hard it is to lose 700 calories on a treadmill or some type of machine. It's much easier and less time to burn the same amount of calories with strength training alone.
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