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MalineVD
MalineVD Posts: 649 Member
edited November 14 in Health and Weight Loss
Hey guys,

I have a question.

For years I was able to maintain a good healthy weight. I've eaten healthy for almost all my life and exercise regularly. Due to some changes in my life, I haven't been able to do lots of sports with a 15 pound gain as a result (in 1 year). I know everything starts with a good diet, but my diet hasn't changed that much. I still eat really healthy and i've cut back my portions because of the lack of exercise. I'm at 1200 kcal a day and I stick to it well, except sometimes I go over because I had some extra nuts or an extra piece of fruit or something like that. I don't eat junkfood, never eat candy (once in a while a piece of dark chocolate but that's it), don't drink soda or whatever. Oh and all my meals are homecooked. So I don't feel like there are a lot of things I could do in the diet area. But I find it very very hard to lose those 15 pounds again. I'm slowly creating more time to work out again, but it's really hard with my workschedule.

I don't feel like I should reduce my calorie intake, because I'm only at 1200 and I used to eat a lot more when I worked out a lot. it feels like (because I've always eaten healthy and there's not much to change there) it's harder because I have limited possibilities to make a positive change. And I still have more than 2 months before my work situation changes and I'll have more time to go to the gym or running or whatever :)
Do you guys see another solution for the meanwhile?

Thank you!
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  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    Maline,

    I'm going to suggest that you are eating more than you realize because if you were truly eating 1200 calories you would be losing weight, and you would not have gained 15 pounds in a year. It's really easy to underestimate our calorie intake.

    Eating healthy has nothing to do with weight loss. If you eat over your maintenance, you will gain weight no matter what you eat.

    The only way to really know how much you are eating is to weight and log all your food, and to make sure your food entries are correct (MFP has ALOT of inaccurate ones). Otherwise, it's a guessing game.

    Also, if you feel you truly are eating 1200 calories and not losing, then it's time for a doctor's visit.
  • PeachyCarol
    PeachyCarol Posts: 8,029 Member
    edited March 2015
    I'm more than twice you're age and I'm losing weight on 1200 calories a day with very little exercise thanks to a medical condition acting up.

    No, you should not reduce your caloric intake, but chances are that you're eating more than you think you are. Studies have shown that people tend to greatly underestimate how much they're eating.

    As for 1200 calories, unless you're really short, that might even be too little for you to eat.

    Have you entered your stats into the web site?

    How tall are you and how much do you weigh currently?

    The only way to be sure how many calories you're consuming is to weigh your food using a kitchen scale and track your intake using correct data base entries that you've verified with either the USDA website or nutritiondata.self.com.

    Also bear in mind that you have very little to lose. Weight loss happens pretty slowly in that situation.
  • esjones12
    esjones12 Posts: 1,363 Member
    edited March 2015
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    Maline,

    I'm going to suggest that you are eating more than you realize because if you were truly eating 1200 calories you would be losing weight, and you would not have gained 15 pounds in a year. It's really easy to underestimate our calorie intake.

    Eating healthy has nothing to do with weight loss. If you eat over your maintenance, you will gain weight no matter what you eat.

    The only way to really know how much you are eating is to weight and log all your food, and to make sure your food entries are correct (MFP has ALOT of inaccurate ones). Otherwise, it's a guessing game.

    Also, if you feel you truly are eating 1200 calories and not losing, then it's time for a doctor's visit.

    +1.

    Start logging. Set up MFP for a healthy deficit and see what happens. 1200 calories is the lowest recommended net for most women according to many health care professionals and studies.

    We would need your stats: height, age, weight, goal weight, and daily activities - in order to help you figure out what you should be eating. You will then have to learn correct food measuring and logging. And then you should start losing :)
  • MalineVD
    MalineVD Posts: 649 Member
    Hey, thanks for the responses.

    I log consistenly and weigh everything on my kitchenscale. I try to be as accurate as possible, by also viewing what's on the labels en never put anything in by "piece" or "portion size".
    I am pretty short though. I'm 5'1" and I now weigh around 123.5 pounds. Doctor said I should be around 110.
  • PeachyCarol
    PeachyCarol Posts: 8,029 Member
    I'm 5'1" as well. It's slow going for us shorties when it comes to the scale moving sometimes. If you make your diary public, we might be able to analyze it to spot any problems that might be causing your standstill.
  • jharb2
    jharb2 Posts: 208 Member
    I don't know how old you are, but i'm 52, 5'1" and 117. I excercise 4xwk w/ cardio/weight training and stay around 1200 calories , mostly a 90/10 diet and I have not lost in over 6 months. I do eat back some excercise calories. So I am starting to realize that its how you look and feel, and not the number. If you look and feel good at 123.5 ( which is a healthy weight) then that counts more. And if you are expecting fast results, I will say the closer to goal you are, the slower it is, so be patient. Do you feel good with how you look and your clothes fit , then give yourself a break. That is easier said than done, but weight loss and fitness are not linear. just because mfp says you will lose 1lb a week at 1200 does not make it so. they don't know you and your body, its just a educated guess how much you should eat.
  • MalineVD
    MalineVD Posts: 649 Member
    Oh and I'm 25. I work at a desk, but I do everything by bike of by foot.
    My goal weight is around 110, considering this is the weight I've had last 4-5 years and I felt comfortable with that.

    I used to do crossfit 3 times a week + running and yoga.
    Now I try to at least do 1 workout a week.

    I work more than 60 hours a week at my deskjob and also freelance as a copywriter. I live on my own, so all the cooking (I like homecooked meals and I cook pure and try not to use prepacked food) and the household is also on me. I love my family, but they live over an hour away from me, so visiting them also costs some time.
  • MalineVD
    MalineVD Posts: 649 Member
    And I think my diary is public now? Everything is in Dutch though, but if you'd like translations, I'm happy to do so!
  • gothchiq
    gothchiq Posts: 4,590 Member
    Maybe it's time to get your thyroid checked, and any other blood values your doctor thinks could have an effect.
  • MalineVD
    MalineVD Posts: 649 Member
    jharb2 wrote: »
    I don't know how old you are, but i'm 52, 5'1" and 117. I excercise 4xwk w/ cardio/weight training and stay around 1200 calories , mostly a 90/10 diet and I have not lost in over 6 months. I do eat back some excercise calories. So I am starting to realize that its how you look and feel, and not the number. If you look and feel good at 123.5 ( which is a healthy weight) then that counts more. And if you are expecting fast results, I will say the closer to goal you are, the slower it is, so be patient. Do you feel good with how you look and your clothes fit , then give yourself a break. That is easier said than done, but weight loss and fitness are not linear. just because mfp says you will lose 1lb a week at 1200 does not make it so. they don't know you and your body, its just a educated guess how much you should eat.

    I don't really mind the extra weight. The scale is just a number. But I feel uncomfortable in my clothes and have noticed that I've lost muscle and gained fat.
    It's just frustrating, because I do everything I can at this moment, but I feel like I'm stuck until my worksituation changes.
  • esjones12
    esjones12 Posts: 1,363 Member
    How long have you been accurately logging? Also, when you do eat an extra piece of fruit, log it so you can see how much you were over for the entire week at the end. An extra piece of fruit (80-100 caloires) could add up significantly depending on your deficit amount. Also since you ARE at a healthy weight for your height, it will probably be a slow process to lose those extra pounds.

    At your height is where the 1200 calories can get fuzzy. I would talk to your doctor about blood work, as well as a recommended calorie intake. Your best bet would be to talk to a dietitian though...see what they recommend calorie wise. They should also be able to tell you how to hit all the nutrients your body needs on under 1200 if you do in fact need to consume a little less than that. But please speak to a professional about lowering your calories.
  • MalineVD
    MalineVD Posts: 649 Member
    I've been logging for around 5 months now.

    I did have bloodtests some months ago and due to some stomach etc problems, I have troubles with getting vitamins in. So I have to take vitamins D, B12, iron and magnesium.
  • TimothyFish
    TimothyFish Posts: 4,925 Member
    At 5'1", 1200 is very close to your TDEE. The only way you are going to see significant weight loss is to go below 1200 or to exercise enough to create a bigger calorie deficit. I'm not a medical professional, but since you are so short, there probably isn't any harm in setting your goal below the 1200 mark. You simply don't need as much food as the average person.
  • Dnarules
    Dnarules Posts: 2,081 Member
    At 5'1", 1200 is very close to your TDEE. The only way you are going to see significant weight loss is to go below 1200 or to exercise enough to create a bigger calorie deficit. I'm not a medical professional, but since you are so short, there probably isn't any harm in setting your goal below the 1200 mark. You simply don't need as much food as the average person.

    According to fat2fit calculator, her BMR is higher than 1200. At sedentary, her TDEE is 1600 or so, but I did it without taking BF into consideration. I don't think she should go below 1200.

  • Vcorz
    Vcorz Posts: 75 Member
    It sounds like you were probably under-fat before, and needed to fatten up just a bit! Maybe buy some bigger clothes and try to feel confident maintaining?
  • callsitlikeiseeit
    callsitlikeiseeit Posts: 8,626 Member
    looking at your entry from the other day

    Homemade - Mum's Spaghetti Bolognese, 1 plate

    thats not weighed. i didnt bother to continue to look, but you need to make sure you are WEIGHING EVERYTHING WITH A SCALE. EVERYTHING.

    i guarantee you are eating more than you think
  • PeachyCarol
    PeachyCarol Posts: 8,029 Member
    At 5'1", 1200 is very close to your TDEE. The only way you are going to see significant weight loss is to go below 1200 or to exercise enough to create a bigger calorie deficit. I'm not a medical professional, but since you are so short, there probably isn't any harm in setting your goal below the 1200 mark. You simply don't need as much food as the average person.

    Oh good grief her TDEE is not near 1200, it's around 1490 according to iifym. Her BMR is around 1200, though. She does not need to eat less.

  • PeachyCarol
    PeachyCarol Posts: 8,029 Member
    edited March 2015
    looking at your entry from the other day

    Homemade - Mum's Spaghetti Bolognese, 1 plate

    thats not weighed. i didnt bother to continue to look, but you need to make sure you are WEIGHING EVERYTHING WITH A SCALE. EVERYTHING.

    i guarantee you are eating more than you think

    I noticed another one, I think it was 225 grams of broccoli that was only 35 calories or something. 225 grams of broccoli is more than that. Are you verifying the data base entries you're selecting? Do a google search and double check the calorie counts to make sure you select the correct entry the first time you select something. Every time.

  • Vcorz
    Vcorz Posts: 75 Member
    At 5'1", 1200 is very close to your TDEE. The only way you are going to see significant weight loss is to go below 1200 or to exercise enough to create a bigger calorie deficit. I'm not a medical professional, but since you are so short, there probably isn't any harm in setting your goal below the 1200 mark. You simply don't need as much food as the average person.

    Oh good grief her TDEE is not near 1200, it's around 1490 according to iifym. Her BMR is around 1200, though. She does not need to eat less.

    Exactly.....if anything she needs to eat MORE...and maybe accept that 108 pounds may not be maintainable for everybody, esp as we age...
  • callsitlikeiseeit
    callsitlikeiseeit Posts: 8,626 Member
    Vcorz wrote: »
    At 5'1", 1200 is very close to your TDEE. The only way you are going to see significant weight loss is to go below 1200 or to exercise enough to create a bigger calorie deficit. I'm not a medical professional, but since you are so short, there probably isn't any harm in setting your goal below the 1200 mark. You simply don't need as much food as the average person.

    Oh good grief her TDEE is not near 1200, it's around 1490 according to iifym. Her BMR is around 1200, though. She does not need to eat less.

    Exactly.....if anything she needs to eat MORE...and maybe accept that 108 pounds may not be maintainable for everybody, esp as we age...

    im 5'2 and 37... the only way i could get close to 108 is with an eating disorder (and ill take a hard pass on that!)

    not saying thats OP's situation, just saying for ME that would be the case LOL
  • PeachyCarol
    PeachyCarol Posts: 8,029 Member
    To be fair, from her picture, she does look like she has a small frame. The weight recommendation does come from her doctor. I do think she could probably handle 115, though.
  • marissafit06
    marissafit06 Posts: 1,996 Member
    edited March 2015
    Vcorz wrote: »
    At 5'1", 1200 is very close to your TDEE. The only way you are going to see significant weight loss is to go below 1200 or to exercise enough to create a bigger calorie deficit. I'm not a medical professional, but since you are so short, there probably isn't any harm in setting your goal below the 1200 mark. You simply don't need as much food as the average person.

    Oh good grief her TDEE is not near 1200, it's around 1490 according to iifym. Her BMR is around 1200, though. She does not need to eat less.

    Exactly.....if anything she needs to eat MORE...and maybe accept that 108 pounds may not be maintainable for everybody, esp as we age...

    I mean she's 25, so accepting weight gain with age might be premature.
  • TimothyFish
    TimothyFish Posts: 4,925 Member
    At 5'1", 1200 is very close to your TDEE. The only way you are going to see significant weight loss is to go below 1200 or to exercise enough to create a bigger calorie deficit. I'm not a medical professional, but since you are so short, there probably isn't any harm in setting your goal below the 1200 mark. You simply don't need as much food as the average person.

    Oh good grief her TDEE is not near 1200, it's around 1490 according to iifym. Her BMR is around 1200, though. She does not need to eat less.

    Even if she sticks to 1200 calories, she can't do better than 0.6 lbs per week. But when dealing with food, 1490 is very close to 1200. The calories listed on packaged could be off by as much as 20%, so even if she weighed everything out to the finest detail, what she thinks is 1200 calories could be as much as 1440 calories. If her TDEE is slightly lower than predicted, she could be gaining weight rather than losing.
  • BWBTrish
    BWBTrish Posts: 2,817 Member
    edited March 2015
    hello Malina

    I think you have to thighten up your logging.
    Some things like groentensoep etc looks oke I suppose you cook it your self because it says homemade. The roerei you better log everything separate.
    So the egg and what you put in it. And to bake it.
    I dont say any where any butter or oils added. You dont use those at all?
    Than the banana 1 stuk How big, what does it weigh?

    chia seeds 1 tsp is 5 gram ( about) is 24 calories for me..You have a tablespoon 47 calories..weigh this!

    there can be a big difference in some entrees you made there.
    I am a Dutchie so i can read what you have in your diary. I am on 1200 calories a day and eat a lot more than you. But everything get weighed....Everything from butter to oils spices and herbs.
    All my recipes are really homemade by me and mostly logged all separated.

    If you need any help further just ask :)
  • PeachyCarol
    PeachyCarol Posts: 8,029 Member
    At 5'1", 1200 is very close to your TDEE. The only way you are going to see significant weight loss is to go below 1200 or to exercise enough to create a bigger calorie deficit. I'm not a medical professional, but since you are so short, there probably isn't any harm in setting your goal below the 1200 mark. You simply don't need as much food as the average person.

    Oh good grief her TDEE is not near 1200, it's around 1490 according to iifym. Her BMR is around 1200, though. She does not need to eat less.

    Even if she sticks to 1200 calories, she can't do better than 0.6 lbs per week. But when dealing with food, 1490 is very close to 1200. The calories listed on packaged could be off by as much as 20%, so even if she weighed everything out to the finest detail, what she thinks is 1200 calories could be as much as 1440 calories. If her TDEE is slightly lower than predicted, she could be gaining weight rather than losing.

    Every single bite she would have put in her mouth over months and months would have had to have been packaged and to have been off on the generous side to meet your scenario.

    Highly doubtful.

  • Vcorz
    Vcorz Posts: 75 Member
    Yeah, she's either eating a lot more than she thinks, or her metabolism is slowing down, which can and does happen at 25 for a lot of people.....
  • PeachyCarol
    PeachyCarol Posts: 8,029 Member
    Vcorz wrote: »
    Yeah, she's either eating a lot more than she thinks, or her metabolism is slowing down, which can and does happen at 25 for a lot of people.....

    She could just be eating just a little more than she thinks. Her TDEE is only a few hundred calories above 1200, meaning that precision with weighing and tracking is essential. She doesn't have a lot of wiggle room.



  • MalineVD
    MalineVD Posts: 649 Member
    Hey you guys! Wow, offline for a couple of hours and so many responds! Thank you!
    I try to weigh as much as possible to be as accurate as I can. Only when I eat at a friends place or my parents I take a portion size. But 90% of my meals I cook and weigh myself.

    It just seems that because I'm small and don't have huge amounts to lose, that I have to be extremely strict. And that kinda sucks, because I do eat really healthy. I see people still eating unhealthy and still losing and that kinda works demotivating..
    But let's stay positive. i'll try to even be more accurate than I am now and hope that'll get me some results.

    And to those who've said I should try to be confident with how I am now: I am. I just feel unfomfortable with those 15 pounds extra, because I was able to maintain a good weight for years and it feels just because I had to stop working out as much as I used to do, that I keep on gaining, no matter how healthy I may eat..
  • segacs
    segacs Posts: 4,599 Member
    You're not pregnant by any chance, are you?

    (Just covering the bases, here.)
  • neaneacc
    neaneacc Posts: 224 Member
    After looking over your dairy I think that I saw a couple of things that might help. I noticed that your protein intake is fairly low. I know that some people don't prefer standard proteins from meats, which is fine but other foods like fish, eggs, edamame (soy), nuts, seeds or even peanut butter can help keep your protein levels higher.
    Additionally, I noticed that your water levels were less than optimal. Current research suggest that a person should take their current weight divided by 2 and drink at least that amount in oz of water. So if you weigh 123 /2 about 62 oz give or take. This is really important as the human body needs water for almost all its important functions (even digestion).
    I agree that not all entry options are accurate on MFP. I recommend taking the time to save your favorite foods by entering it on your own or at least verifying the data.
    If you know that you can't "exercise" traditionally try to make the effort to get more non-traditional exercise. Things like parking further away, taking the stairs, over even dancing around while cleaning the house can all add up to burned calories.
    I hope any or all of this helps you on your weight loss journey!
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