Yet another new study confirms fat people drink diet soda...
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mamapeach910 wrote: »I hear fat people eat too much.
+1, but my version goes "I hear fat people consistently eat/drink more calories than they burn, and some of them drink diet soda while doing so."0 -
People who eat carrots have a 100% mortality rate.0
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This should make me want to stop drinking soda, but it doesn't. Only drinking water? What kinda life would that be?0
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When I was fat I drank regular soda, when I lost weight (121 pounds) and now maintaining I drank diet soda, my waist got smaller, hhhhmmmmmm.....0
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At least one big bottle of diet coke here per workday...my BMI is a bit under 20 atm...the thing is: let's say the sweeteners are increasing my sugar cravings. Well, if you give in and eat junk then...you will gain weight if you eat over maintenance, but if you log everything and don't give in...you will be fine. Shocking, right?0
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OK forget my flippant comment about water earlier I've just had an epiphany. I have an off the wall idea this may be out there and a little controversial but I'll float it anyway. I have heard rumours that fat people have been known to eat food. Yes actually eat food now I know it could be a bit of a strange idea but is it at all possible that food could be at anyway indicated in someone's obesity? I know stupid idea now I say it I see what a ridiculous idea that is you know the idea that eating too much food could make you fat. ridiculous Huh0
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Without reading the study, is it not entirely plausible that people with some level of awareness that their waistline is growing might self-select diet soda, but then do absolutely nothing else to improve their nutrition and metabolism?0
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lolol diet cola linked to increased belly fat in adults
because having diet cola makes people fat?
or being fat makes people drink diet cola?
which is more plausible?*
*-note I only read the headline and none of the contents because omfg I am tired of articles about studies.0 -
Of course, sick people are found in hospitals, therefore hospitals cause sickness.0
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mamapeach910 wrote: »I hear fat people eat too much.
Finally! Science.0 -
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This was a PROSPECTIVE study! That's a big difference from the prior epidemiology studies.
It still isn't hard proof that diet soda is "causal." But it's much more significant (and concerning) than a mere epidemiology study which demonstrates that people who are obese drink diet soda.0 -
Personally I love Diet Dr Pepper and Diet Lipton Green Tea BUT - 1. they are not providing any real/significant nutritional value and - 2. are full of chemicals/additives/preservatives. I have chosen after a long battle to only indulge as a treat rarely vs 3 or 4 bottles per day.
I have realized that I really do care about what I put in my body (always wanting contents etc disclosed ie., GMO grains and pesticide use...) and I choose not to knowingly continue to slowly poison myself with certain beverages/processed foods so abundantly available from the "Diet" industry.
I want to live a long and healthy life, I can do that with whole foods I don't need or want the "Diet" industry's products. I believe almost all artificial sweeteners are bad for you which is what I saw mirrored in the article. Good luck and safe journey!0 -
likehlikeo wrote: »At least one big bottle of diet coke here per workday...my BMI is a bit under 20 atm...the thing is: let's say the sweeteners are increasing my sugar cravings. Well, if you give in and eat junk then...you will gain weight if you eat over maintenance, but if you log everything and don't give in...you will be fine. Shocking, right?
And since most people don't log their calories, I guess the study's results aren't shocking either.
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Without reading the study, is it not entirely plausible that people with some level of awareness that their waistline is growing might self-select diet soda, but then do absolutely nothing else to improve their nutrition and metabolism?
This plus I know a lot of diabetics who drink diet soda. Many diabetics (not all) are also obese. It skews the data.0 -
midwesterner85 wrote: »These studies never seem to establish a direct link between diet soda and weight gain. Correlation doesn't equal causation.
I was going to say exactly this. What bothers me even more is that the article goes on to suggest that people replace zero calorie diet soda with caloric sweet fruits. How does that help?!
yeah, directly replacing diet soda with fruit and keeping EVERY other variable the same would be a disaster vs. the negative effects associated with soda. As that would absolutely cause weight gain, contribute to diabetes and most every other negative effect attributed to diet soda.
Directly replacing diet soda with fruit and keeping every other variable the same would cause either a reduction in weight loss or weight gain. Not only do we know that, but we know what causes that.
On the other hand, artificial sweeteners and products containing them are routinely blamed for all kinds of things, for which no causation can be identified, using poorly controlled "studies." Artificial sweeteners are perhaps the most studied food substance available on the market today, with practically nothing tangible identified that is harmful to most humans.
Take a study like this where both the control group and the sample group were not monitored for outside variables whatsoever... they are trying to pass this off as "science." Seriously?!0 -
Personally I love Diet Dr Pepper and Diet Lipton Green Tea BUT - 1. they are not providing any nutritional value and - 2. are full of chemicals/additives/preservatives. I have chosen after a long battle to only indulge as a treat rarely vs 3 or 4 bottles per day.
I have realized that I really do care about what I put in my body (as long as contents etc are disclosed ie., GMO grains and pesticide use...) and I choose not to conscienciously continue to slowly poison myself with beverages/processed foods so abundantly available from the "Diet" industry.
I want to live a long and healthy life, I can do that with whole foods I don't need or want the "Diet" industry's products. I believe almost all artificial sweeteners are bad for you which is what I saw mirrored in the article. Good luck and safe journey!
I know people who were over weight, ate whatever they wanted, never exercised, died in their 90's.
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isulo_kura wrote: »OK forget my flippant comment about water earlier I've just had an epiphany. I have an off the wall idea this may be out there and a little controversial but I'll float it anyway. I have heard rumours that fat people have been known to eat food. Yes actually eat food now I know it could be a bit of a strange idea but is it at all possible that food could be at anyway indicated in someone's obesity? I know stupid idea now I say it I see what a ridiculous idea that is you know the idea that eating too much food could make you fat. ridiculous Huh
I remember there was a fat guy once who wanted to order a burger. He says he hadn't eaten anything all day. Of course I knew he was lying... if he hadn't eaten yet that day, then how could he have been so fat?!0
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