Your microwave dinner is making you obese...
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BusyRaeNOTBusty wrote: »AngryViking1970 wrote: »And if you eat your microwave meal with a diet soda, you'll get SUPER fat.
That is actually exactly what I am doing right now. Some kind of Elov meal and a Fresca.
I thought i was the only one who still drank Fresca LOL
I agree with whoever said they were satiating.
I can easily eat two and put down a third if I was bored. They just are NOT that filling for 300-500 calories. Pretty much the only reason I won't eat them.
I often cook up 5 chicken breasts with a bit of bbq sauce, and then take a frozen dinner and a chicken breast - one per each work day. the dinner is around 240 - 300 cals, and the chicken about another 100. It's filling, has more protein, and the dinners I like, I actually enjoy.
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MireyGal76 wrote: »BusyRaeNOTBusty wrote: »AngryViking1970 wrote: »And if you eat your microwave meal with a diet soda, you'll get SUPER fat.
That is actually exactly what I am doing right now. Some kind of Elov meal and a Fresca.
I thought i was the only one who still drank Fresca LOL
I agree with whoever said they were satiating.
I can easily eat two and put down a third if I was bored. They just are NOT that filling for 300-500 calories. Pretty much the only reason I won't eat them.
I often cook up 5 chicken breasts with a bit of bbq sauce, and then take a frozen dinner and a chicken breast - one per each work day. the dinner is around 240 - 300 cals, and the chicken about another 100. It's filling, has more protein, and the dinners I like, I actually enjoy.
Winner winner chicken frozen dinner
now there's an idea. herm.0 -
MireyGal76 wrote: »BusyRaeNOTBusty wrote: »AngryViking1970 wrote: »And if you eat your microwave meal with a diet soda, you'll get SUPER fat.
That is actually exactly what I am doing right now. Some kind of Elov meal and a Fresca.
I thought i was the only one who still drank Fresca LOL
I agree with whoever said they were satiating.
I can easily eat two and put down a third if I was bored. They just are NOT that filling for 300-500 calories. Pretty much the only reason I won't eat them.
I often cook up 5 chicken breasts with a bit of bbq sauce, and then take a frozen dinner and a chicken breast - one per each work day. the dinner is around 240 - 300 cals, and the chicken about another 100. It's filling, has more protein, and the dinners I like, I actually enjoy.
Winner winner chicken frozen dinner
now there's an idea. herm.
I love:
- the turkey, mashed potatoes and stuffing one (I bring a lil cranberry sauce and extra chicken/turkey)
- the lean cuisine thai peanut chicken... with extra chicken (NOM NOM)
- the smart ones spicy szechuan (spelling?) chicken... with extra chicken
By far my top three
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down_ell_beez wrote: »Gravy (Turkey Type Flavor [Monosodium Glutamate, Caramel Color, Flavors, Disodium Inosinate, Disodium Guanylate], Caramel Color, Mono and Diglycerides), Mashed Potatoes ([Mono and Diglycerides, Sodium Acid Pyrophosphate, Citric Acid], Margarine [TBHQ and Citric Acid as Preservatives, Mono and Diglycerides (BHT, Citric Acid)], Potato Flavor [Natural Flavors, Calcium Chloride]), Cooked White Meat Turkey (Carrageenan, Sodium Acid Pyrophosphate, Sodium Phosphate), Stuffing (Breading [Dough Conditioners (Ascorbic Acid, L-Cysteine Monohydrochloride, Azodicarbonamide), Yeast Nutrients (Ammonium Chloride, Calcium Sulfate)], TBHQ and Citric Acid as Preservatives, Turkey Flavor [Natural Flavors, Autolyzed Yeast Extract, Monosodium Glutamate, Disodium Guanylate, Disodium Inosinate, Caramel Color, Sodium Lactate), Sauce (Margarine [Mono and Diglycerides, Natural Flavor], Salt, TBHQ and Citric Acid as Preservatives).
Yum. This sounds very appetizing.
How about Malus domestica and Prunus persica! Okay, that just makes me want to have a pie now.
You posted scientific names; you should look up what the common names are for those items before you tout how horrible they are.0 -
MireyGal76 wrote: »MireyGal76 wrote: »BusyRaeNOTBusty wrote: »AngryViking1970 wrote: »And if you eat your microwave meal with a diet soda, you'll get SUPER fat.
That is actually exactly what I am doing right now. Some kind of Elov meal and a Fresca.
I thought i was the only one who still drank Fresca LOL
I agree with whoever said they were satiating.
I can easily eat two and put down a third if I was bored. They just are NOT that filling for 300-500 calories. Pretty much the only reason I won't eat them.
I often cook up 5 chicken breasts with a bit of bbq sauce, and then take a frozen dinner and a chicken breast - one per each work day. the dinner is around 240 - 300 cals, and the chicken about another 100. It's filling, has more protein, and the dinners I like, I actually enjoy.
Winner winner chicken frozen dinner
now there's an idea. herm.
I love:
- the turkey, mashed potatoes and stuffing one (I bring a lil cranberry sauce and extra chicken/turkey)
- the lean cuisine thai peanut chicken... with extra chicken (NOM NOM)
- the smart ones spicy szechuan (spelling?) chicken... with extra chicken
By far my top three
oh thai peanut- now you really have my interest piqued!0 -
My little theory on why this crazy article might actually be onto something. Before microwaves if you wanted to cook something it took time. A TV dinner was at least 30-45minutes. Now if you arent full after eating your little lean cuisine or your hot pocket you can pop in another one and be eating in less than 10 minutes. Before you might not consider that second meal because it took time and gas to heat up the oven. If it was a hot summer day you might just make something light because heating up the oven heated the house, but now you can have a whole turkey dinner or a gaggle of hot pockets with the magic of the microwave.0
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" often cook up 5 chicken breasts with a bit of bbq sauce, and then take a frozen dinner and a chicken breast - one per each work day. the dinner is around 240 - 300 cals, and the chicken about another 100. It's filling, has more protein, and the dinners I like, I actually enjoy. Winner winner chicken frozen dinner[/quote]
Great idea - I'm going to start doing this (the chicken breasts, not the frozen dinners) for work to put the office microwave to better use! I've been bringing left-overs to the office for those days when I don't feel like heading to the nearby salad bar, but advance prep of the chicken would be a huge time saver.0 -
I do that with chicken breast and also with all kinds of turkey parts. I get meat from a farm and had a few turkey wings and legs and a breast that seemed too big to deal with for dinner and ended up discovering that they are delicious cooked overnight in the slow cooker with some onions and spices and make a great lunch option.
I've also done the same thing with pork and lamb shanks. Slow cooked meat with whatever additional veggies and other things I decide to package with them is now one of my favorite lunches.0 -
MireyGal76 wrote: »BusyRaeNOTBusty wrote: »AngryViking1970 wrote: »And if you eat your microwave meal with a diet soda, you'll get SUPER fat.
That is actually exactly what I am doing right now. Some kind of Elov meal and a Fresca.
I thought i was the only one who still drank Fresca LOL
I agree with whoever said they were satiating.
I can easily eat two and put down a third if I was bored. They just are NOT that filling for 300-500 calories. Pretty much the only reason I won't eat them.
I often cook up 5 chicken breasts with a bit of bbq sauce, and then take a frozen dinner and a chicken breast - one per each work day. the dinner is around 240 - 300 cals, and the chicken about another 100. It's filling, has more protein, and the dinners I like, I actually enjoy.
Winner winner chicken frozen dinner
I've done this, sans the BBQ sauce.
I really like Trader Joe's Stacked Eggplant Parm (both servings) with added chicken for lunch.
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funny, I lost 45 pounds eating those for lunch 5 days a week. The levels of sodium were terrible though.0
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The frozen dinner I had for lunch had all of 270 calories. I doubt it's going to make me obese.0
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Point of clarification - when I was able to visit my late mom, she'd say "what would you like for dinner?" then open her packed freezer to let me pick from her amazing selection. I used to give her such a hard time about it (high in sodium, etc.) but she hated to cook for just herself and it was easy-peasy when all she wanted was "a little something" when she wasn't going out with her friends. She also lost weight eating them, too...and then she discovered frozen desserts...0
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ldrosophila wrote: »My little theory on why this crazy article might actually be onto something. Before microwaves if you wanted to cook something it took time. A TV dinner was at least 30-45minutes. Now if you arent full after eating your little lean cuisine or your hot pocket you can pop in another one and be eating in less than 10 minutes. Before you might not consider that second meal because it took time and gas to heat up the oven. If it was a hot summer day you might just make something light because heating up the oven heated the house, but now you can have a whole turkey dinner or a gaggle of hot pockets with the magic of the microwave.
That would be especially applicable to binge eaters who eat their food incredibly fast, to the point that they won't feel the physical effects of the first serving until after they've had their 3rd or 4th. I wouldn't just limit it to the microwave meals, though. Lunchables, ramen, Chef Boyardee, they'd all fall in that same category.0 -
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gerrielips wrote: »http://www.salon.com/2015/03/19/your_microwave_dinner_is_making_you_obese_what_the_food_industry_doesnt_want_you_to_know_partner/?source=newsletter
Just saw this interesting article this morning in Salon with "food for thought" for all of us pressed for time and in need of convenience. It's definitely something to think about, as I always search for less processed, whole foods.
I look at MFP message boards every morning as I start my day to learn something new from successful, as well as struggling MFP'ers. I decided in late February that I was going to try to eliminate (as much as possible) highly processed foods and to lower my carb intake (on the advice of 2 of my doctors) - so no more potatoes, rice, bread, cookies, starchy veggies (OK -occasionally for the latter) and to add exercise. So far I've lost almost 20 pounds...with about 30-35 more to go. It's a slow process and I don't make myself crazy if some days I'm less behaved than others. Feel free to "friend" me, especially if you're over 60 (or any age), insulin-resistant, and seeking better health for yourself, but trying not to obsess about everything. This is a way of life...
OP, I'm really glad you have found a lifestyle that is working for you, and congrats on the weight you have lost so far! I hope you keep getting lighter and healthier
But articles like this make my brain explode. People are eating 1,000 calorie fast food lunches every day. They are drinking 500 calorie coffee drinks every morning. They are eating tubs of take-away pasta that are actually 4 or 5 servings worth. They are eating bags of cookies in front of the TV. They will leave their car idling at the curb in front of the store, because walking from a parking space is too much effort for them. They watch 4 hours of TV a day and yet say they have no time to exercise. In other words they are eating too much and not moving enough, and they either don't realize it or don't want to hear about it. That is why there is an obesity epidemic. Not because we are eating low-cal microwave dinners. Not because we are eating too many bananas and apples that contain sugar. Not because there is pesticide on the spinach. Those issues may affect health. But I would bet dollars to doughnuts that obese people would be healthier if they ate microwave dinners with preservatives, and pesticide laced apples and spinach, and lost the weight.
Sorry for the rant! But we are so desperate to find some secret evil ingredient that is making everyone heavy, when their are way more prevalent issues we need to tackle first - sedentary lifestyles, huge portions, and the general disconnect between the general population and the basic science of food, nutrition, and how the body uses it. I hope we can get to the point where we have resolved those issues and can move onto understanding the effects of preservatives, artificial sweeteners, and the like but I don't think we're there yet...
^^ this!
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scottacular wrote: »I love the daily demonisation of different type of food type posts on here. Fat, carbs, protein, sodium, sugar, microwave meals...what's next, too much water? I just wish being really silly and blaming everything except excess calories made you gain weight. Because that's the only way some people would ever learn.
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kaseyr1505 wrote: »This is why I only hunt my food wearing a loin cloth, like my ancestors. The people in the grocery store look at me like I'm crazy, but it's the only way to survive.
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LOL "The new research gives reason to suspect that emulsifiers could raise your blood sugar, make you fat and even make your butt hurt."
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jessupbrady wrote: »down_ell_beez wrote: »Gravy (Turkey Type Flavor [Monosodium Glutamate, Caramel Color, Flavors, Disodium Inosinate, Disodium Guanylate], Caramel Color, Mono and Diglycerides), Mashed Potatoes ([Mono and Diglycerides, Sodium Acid Pyrophosphate, Citric Acid], Margarine [TBHQ and Citric Acid as Preservatives, Mono and Diglycerides (BHT, Citric Acid)], Potato Flavor [Natural Flavors, Calcium Chloride]), Cooked White Meat Turkey (Carrageenan, Sodium Acid Pyrophosphate, Sodium Phosphate), Stuffing (Breading [Dough Conditioners (Ascorbic Acid, L-Cysteine Monohydrochloride, Azodicarbonamide), Yeast Nutrients (Ammonium Chloride, Calcium Sulfate)], TBHQ and Citric Acid as Preservatives, Turkey Flavor [Natural Flavors, Autolyzed Yeast Extract, Monosodium Glutamate, Disodium Guanylate, Disodium Inosinate, Caramel Color, Sodium Lactate), Sauce (Margarine [Mono and Diglycerides, Natural Flavor], Salt, TBHQ and Citric Acid as Preservatives).
Yum. This sounds very appetizing.
How about Malus domestica and Prunus persica! Okay, that just makes me want to have a pie now.
You posted scientific names; you should look up what the common names are for those items before you tout how horrible they are.
Disodium Inosinate...appears to come from Inosinic acid...which is described as "important for your metabolism" and helps muscle tissue store energy. Disodium Inosinate is a flavor enhancer. Kind of like salt.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inosinic_acid
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ldrosophila wrote: »My little theory on why this crazy article might actually be onto something. Before microwaves if you wanted to cook something it took time. A TV dinner was at least 30-45minutes. Now if you arent full after eating your little lean cuisine or your hot pocket you can pop in another one and be eating in less than 10 minutes. Before you might not consider that second meal because it took time and gas to heat up the oven. If it was a hot summer day you might just make something light because heating up the oven heated the house, but now you can have a whole turkey dinner or a gaggle of hot pockets with the magic of the microwave.
That would be especially applicable to binge eaters who eat their food incredibly fast, to the point that they won't feel the physical effects of the first serving until after they've had their 3rd or 4th. I wouldn't just limit it to the microwave meals, though. Lunchables, ramen, Chef Boyardee, they'd all fall in that same category.
Not saying this wouldn't be true for some, but it would have been less likely for me than overeating home cooked food. I overate pasta, for example, all the time, since I overestimated how much the finished pasta would be and made too much and would be, well, there's too much for just one serving, but not enough for two, guess I'll eat it all (even when I wasn't hungry for that much food and didn't really want to keep eating--yes, that's screwed up). If there was a prepared dinner I never would have eaten more than one, because then it would have been too obvious I was being a huge pig (as I thought of it), and I wouldn't have wanted that realization. (However, I would overeat something where the portions were less obvious, like a pizza or takeout Indian.) The other thing is that my desire to overeat is almost entirely based on how tasty something is. Those things aren't--to me--all that tasty, so I wouldn't have wanted more at the time.
On the other hand, the not satiating theory rings true for me, as the few times I've had those I found them not satiating (in part because they didn't really taste good, so didn't satisfy my desire for some enjoyable food). So I can totally see ending up snacking on some other thing later when you might not otherwise have.0 -
down_ell_beez wrote: »Gravy (Turkey Type Flavor [Monosodium Glutamate, Caramel Color, Flavors, Disodium Inosinate, Disodium Guanylate], Caramel Color, Mono and Diglycerides), Mashed Potatoes ([Mono and Diglycerides, Sodium Acid Pyrophosphate, Citric Acid], Margarine [TBHQ and Citric Acid as Preservatives, Mono and Diglycerides (BHT, Citric Acid)], Potato Flavor [Natural Flavors, Calcium Chloride]), Cooked White Meat Turkey (Carrageenan, Sodium Acid Pyrophosphate, Sodium Phosphate), Stuffing (Breading [Dough Conditioners (Ascorbic Acid, L-Cysteine Monohydrochloride, Azodicarbonamide), Yeast Nutrients (Ammonium Chloride, Calcium Sulfate)], TBHQ and Citric Acid as Preservatives, Turkey Flavor [Natural Flavors, Autolyzed Yeast Extract, Monosodium Glutamate, Disodium Guanylate, Disodium Inosinate, Caramel Color, Sodium Lactate), Sauce (Margarine [Mono and Diglycerides, Natural Flavor], Salt, TBHQ and Citric Acid as Preservatives).
Yum. This sounds very appetizing.
Honestly though, if you want to eat this, keep it in your calorie goal. Then I say go for it. As for me, I like to be able to pronounce my ingredient lists. Plus when I make real foods at home, the portion sizes are large enough to actually satisfy my hunger. Rather than taking 5 bites and already being at my calorie goal.
With that said, it is not the microwave dinner that makes people obese! It is overeating microwave dinners that make you obese. Really you can over eat any food (although it would be hard to overeat broccoli without your stomach exploding), but convenient, calories dense foods lend themselves to overeating.
You can't pronounce the components of your own DNA then. Just because something has an imposing Latinate designation dose not make it some foreign to nature substance. Please don't hide behind self imposed ignorance then use it as an argument for your position. If you are concerned about the chemicals in food you have every resource to research them. How many of those evil chemicals you listed do you suppose ocour in natural organic processes? And are you really afraid of citric acid??0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »ldrosophila wrote: »My little theory on why this crazy article might actually be onto something. Before microwaves if you wanted to cook something it took time. A TV dinner was at least 30-45minutes. Now if you arent full after eating your little lean cuisine or your hot pocket you can pop in another one and be eating in less than 10 minutes. Before you might not consider that second meal because it took time and gas to heat up the oven. If it was a hot summer day you might just make something light because heating up the oven heated the house, but now you can have a whole turkey dinner or a gaggle of hot pockets with the magic of the microwave.
That would be especially applicable to binge eaters who eat their food incredibly fast, to the point that they won't feel the physical effects of the first serving until after they've had their 3rd or 4th. I wouldn't just limit it to the microwave meals, though. Lunchables, ramen, Chef Boyardee, they'd all fall in that same category.
Not saying this wouldn't be true for some, but it would have been less likely for me than overeating home cooked food. I overate pasta, for example, all the time, since I overestimated how much the finished pasta would be and made too much and would be, well, there's too much for just one serving, but not enough for two, guess I'll eat it all (even when I wasn't hungry for that much food and didn't really want to keep eating--yes, that's screwed up). If there was a prepared dinner I never would have eaten more than one, because then it would have been too obvious I was being a huge pig (as I thought of it), and I wouldn't have wanted that realization. (However, I would overeat something where the portions were less obvious, like a pizza or takeout Indian.) The other thing is that my desire to overeat is almost entirely based on how tasty something is. Those things aren't--to me--all that tasty, so I wouldn't have wanted more at the time.
On the other hand, the not satiating theory rings true for me, as the few times I've had those I found them not satiating (in part because they didn't really taste good, so didn't satisfy my desire for some enjoyable food). So I can totally see ending up snacking on some other thing later when you might not otherwise have.
Before I got help for it, that was true for me, but, I would take the long way around, finish the frozen chicken, then get the can of mini ravioli, then eat the bag of Cheetos. Two boxes of hungry man would be excessive, but having some pasta on the side totally makes sense, because restaurants do it all the time. By the time I got to the Cheetos I'd be in full on binge mode and not even aware that I was eating them until the bag was empty (around the same time the chicken hit my stomach). The whole process would take 10-15 minutes, and most times, I'd be snacking on something else again an hour or two later.0 -
Ok, what's in the middle, back? Is it a brownie? My first thought was dipping sauce (luckily quickly saw the error of my ways) and then pudding, but you wouldn't heat pudding...SconnieCat wrote: »Shout out to these little delicious sodium bombs. **drools**
Tis' pudding. Some of these meals have the pudding in a separate cup that you pull out prior to cooking. Other parts of the meal come out for a portion of the cooking then are returned for the finale so that they are the proper temp. These meals really are great in some ways but they do nothing to teach portion control, but then that is the parents job isn't it.
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amusedmonkey wrote: »down_ell_beez wrote: »Gravy (Turkey Type Flavor [Monosodium Glutamate, Caramel Color, Flavors, Disodium Inosinate, Disodium Guanylate], Caramel Color, Mono and Diglycerides), Mashed Potatoes ([Mono and Diglycerides, Sodium Acid Pyrophosphate, Citric Acid], Margarine [TBHQ and Citric Acid as Preservatives, Mono and Diglycerides (BHT, Citric Acid)], Potato Flavor [Natural Flavors, Calcium Chloride]), Cooked White Meat Turkey (Carrageenan, Sodium Acid Pyrophosphate, Sodium Phosphate), Stuffing (Breading [Dough Conditioners (Ascorbic Acid, L-Cysteine Monohydrochloride, Azodicarbonamide), Yeast Nutrients (Ammonium Chloride, Calcium Sulfate)], TBHQ and Citric Acid as Preservatives, Turkey Flavor [Natural Flavors, Autolyzed Yeast Extract, Monosodium Glutamate, Disodium Guanylate, Disodium Inosinate, Caramel Color, Sodium Lactate), Sauce (Margarine [Mono and Diglycerides, Natural Flavor], Salt, TBHQ and Citric Acid as Preservatives).
Yum. This sounds very appetizing.
Honestly though, if you want to eat this, keep it in your calorie goal. Then I say go for it. As for me, I like to be able to pronounce my ingredient lists. Plus when I make real foods at home, the portion sizes are large enough to actually satisfy my hunger. Rather than taking 5 bites and already being at my calorie goal.
With that said, it is not the microwave dinner that makes people obese! It is overeating microwave dinners that make you obese. Really you can over eat any food (although it would be hard to overeat broccoli without your stomach exploding), but convenient, calories dense foods lend themselves to overeating.
It must be sad to never eat Solanum lycopersicum
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Personally I blame Ronald McDonald0
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Nutritional value from whole foods make them a better choice, but the reality is that people are obese from over consumption and not any particular type of food, additive or drink.
Basically everything we consume has calories. NOT caring of how much one is eating in calories is why we have an obesity issue.
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I find them fantastic for days when I'm sick and feeling like crap or overworked or I know I'm going out for dinner that night and need something low calorie for the beginning of the day (granted the sodium levels astound me but I don't always use the microwaveable dinners). Still. To each their own. But I've lost 42lbs thus far and I do eat microwaveable meals from time to time. It's calories in vs calories out. No one can blame anyone for gaining weight except themselves. You are what you eat, in a way.0
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I'm a little butt hurt. I thought it was from reading this, but now think it may be the frozen pineapple I had in my smoothie! Silly me....
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I have similar goals. I want to cut down on processed food and lower my carb intake. I'll send you a friend request. 0
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jessupbrady wrote: »down_ell_beez wrote: »Gravy (Turkey Type Flavor [Monosodium Glutamate, Caramel Color, Flavors, Disodium Inosinate, Disodium Guanylate], Caramel Color, Mono and Diglycerides), Mashed Potatoes ([Mono and Diglycerides, Sodium Acid Pyrophosphate, Citric Acid], Margarine [TBHQ and Citric Acid as Preservatives, Mono and Diglycerides (BHT, Citric Acid)], Potato Flavor [Natural Flavors, Calcium Chloride]), Cooked White Meat Turkey (Carrageenan, Sodium Acid Pyrophosphate, Sodium Phosphate), Stuffing (Breading [Dough Conditioners (Ascorbic Acid, L-Cysteine Monohydrochloride, Azodicarbonamide), Yeast Nutrients (Ammonium Chloride, Calcium Sulfate)], TBHQ and Citric Acid as Preservatives, Turkey Flavor [Natural Flavors, Autolyzed Yeast Extract, Monosodium Glutamate, Disodium Guanylate, Disodium Inosinate, Caramel Color, Sodium Lactate), Sauce (Margarine [Mono and Diglycerides, Natural Flavor], Salt, TBHQ and Citric Acid as Preservatives).
Yum. This sounds very appetizing.
How about Malus domestica and Prunus persica! Okay, that just makes me want to have a pie now.
You posted scientific names; you should look up what the common names are for those items before you tout how horrible they are.
Most of those seem to be variants on sodium, and what's the common name for that "citric acid" chemical? Sounds nasty to me, I'll just stick to my wholesome fruits.0
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