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Can I petition MFP users to use the terms "more ideal" and "less ideal" instead of good/bad foods?

Posts: 8,646 Member
edited November 2024 in Food and Nutrition
I think a simple changing of wording will make everyone happy and fit inside everyone's safety box...

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  • Posts: 8,897 Member
    I prefer "yummy" and "more yummy" to be honest.
  • Posts: 2,064 Member
    I've seen "fun food". That seems pretty accurate and doesn't start a major rage fest.
  • Posts: 672 Member
    Good advice. Also when comparing foods, it could be helpful to offer one as a "better choice" over something else.
  • Posts: 1,022 Member
    @_John_
    I'm pretty offended by your use of the word safety box. Let me tell you, being in an alternative lifestyle relationship, there is no safety in boxes.

    Also it could be confused with slang for female anatomy. :(
  • Posts: 15,357 Member
    edited March 2015
    Good luck. :flowerforyou:

    ETA: Also, apparently dirt food exists, and I'm an idiot for not knowing what the hell it means...
  • Posts: 32 Member
    edited March 2015
    That implies that certain foods are better than other foods though, which is the entire idea that spawned that mess.

    I think just changing the wording to something more specific would work much better. "In the context of the rest of your diet, [food1] would be a better choice than [food2]."

    @auddii: Dirt food is what you have before you wash your spinach, of course.
  • Posts: 8,646 Member
    well, by nature, a food as vile as say raw kale is MUCH more likely to be needed in someone's overall diet than say white bread, which has FAR less micronutrition for the calories.
  • Posts: 8,646 Member
    however if someone ate say 5 cups of raw kale, then they would likely benefit by eating the white bread for the rest of their carbs as it would decrease the bulk in their diet as they would have gotten most of the micronutrition one needs from carbs (if not too much) in that 5 cups.
  • Posts: 14,260 Member
    I usually say "foods that are traditionally thought of as 'healthy'" because most people can figure out what that means. Anyone who claims they can't is being disingenuous and just trying to start a fight IMO.
  • Posts: 824 Member
    What would we argue about?
  • Posts: 8,646 Member
    edited March 2015
    Sugarbeat wrote: »
    What would we argue about?

    dunno. but I'm running out of popcorn for watching that other thread.

    It's all a philosophical battle over whether "we'd" like someone to think exclusionary about food or inclusionary...
  • Posts: 1,243 Member
    _John_ wrote: »

    dunno. but I'm running out of popcorn for watching that other thread.

    It's all a philosophical battle over whether "we'd" like someone to think exclusionary about food or inclusionary...

    Is there butter on your popcorn? Because I'd like to suggest plain popcorn, which is more ideal.

    Or, you could switch to something more nutrient dense, like kale!
  • Posts: 8,646 Member
    I need fat though. so I chose to butter my popcorn and eat less of it to make it fit my macros. Popcorn still helps me hit my fiber goal...
  • Posts: 13,575 Member
    I prefer angelic and evil. With no in between. It has to be one or the other. o:) or >:)
  • Posts: 8,646 Member
    well, in the context of an otherwise total lack of calories, EVERY food is good food...
  • Posts: 13,575 Member
    _John_ wrote: »
    well, in the context of an otherwise total lack of calories, EVERY food is good food...

    And in the context of overeating, EVERY food is bad food.

    There is no win.
  • Posts: 1,941 Member
    _John_ wrote: »
    I think a simple changing of wording will make everyone happy and fit inside everyone's safety box...

    no, because there are arguably no bad foods. There are no less ideal foods.
  • Posts: 5,961 Member

    no, because there are arguably no bad foods. There are no less ideal foods.

    Arguably, yes, definitively, no. You can argue against anything, doesn't mean you're correct.
  • Posts: 6,666 Member
    MB_Positif wrote: »
    I prefer "yummy" and "more yummy" to be honest.

    Word.
  • Posts: 875 Member
    Can i petition MFP users to be less sensitive about the way others describe food? And also let people have their opinions? 'Cause it's not that serious.
  • Posts: 6,666 Member
    auddii wrote: »
    Good luck. :flowerforyou:

    ETA: Also, apparently dirt food exists, and I'm an idiot for not knowing what the hell it means...

    Isn't that like... dirt cake? You know, made out of oreos and pudding and gummy worms, etc?
  • Posts: 1,090 Member
    jemhh wrote: »
    I usually say "foods that are traditionally thought of as 'healthy'" because most people can figure out what that means. Anyone who claims they can't is being disingenuous and just trying to start a fight IMO.

    Me too. Although I do continue to describe the midnight greasey drunk burger from the death vans as 'bad food' or 'a loose facsimile for food' or 'questionably edible' or other such euphemism for the disgusting snacks that are so yummy to eat when drunk but you would not touch with a barge pole when sober.
  • Posts: 824 Member
    edited March 2015
    PeachyPlum wrote: »

    Is there butter on your popcorn? Because I'd like to suggest plain popcorn, which is more ideal.

    Or, you could switch to something more nutrient dense, like kale!

    Just give me the butter thanks. Fat is not "bad" after all, but corn is toxic for me :. :smile:
  • Posts: 3,944 Member
    Can we just call it food and leave the value statements out of it?
  • Posts: 32 Member
    edited March 2015
    no, because there are arguably no bad foods. There are no less ideal foods.
    Trans fats are pretty unarguably bad.

    That's all I got.

    Edit: No they're not, tincanonastring is right.
  • Posts: 13,575 Member
    Trans fats are pretty unarguably bad.

    That's all I got.

    Truth
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  • Posts: 3,944 Member
    Trans fats are pretty unarguably bad.

    That's all I got.

    And here's where it turns into a bad food thread. I've heard there's already one of those going on. Grass-fed dairy and meet products have trans fat. Are those bad foods? No, they are food that one either chooses to eat or chooses not to eat. There's no reason to place a judge the value of food outside of a contextual conversation.
  • Posts: 8,646 Member

    And here's where it turns into a bad food thread. I've heard there's already one of those going on. Grass-fed dairy and meet products have trans fat. Are those bad foods? No, they are food that one either chooses to eat or chooses not to eat. There's no reason to place a judge the value of food outside of a contextual conversation.

    but those fall under the "natural" umbrella and are protected. As are "oreos" made from organic ingredients...
  • Posts: 896 Member
    I checked with my food, none of it is offended by any terms used to describe it & it promised it's feelings won't get hurt..........
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