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I feel like I am incredibly clueless about different body shapes being in or out of fashion. A month or so ago I told my husband that, only over the last year and only by looking at various fitness sites did I realize how much people talk/think about butts. I understand trying to be the best you that you can be but going to dangerous lengths to be the "in" shape blows my mind.0
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There are many things people do that are kind of crazy. especially with cosmetic procedures.
Like having implants in the calves, biceps, chest, abs, etc.
Having lasers burn off our body hair.
injected acid/toxins to give their skin more volume.
having fat surgically sucked off our bodies.
having fat surgically injected where we want it.
etc.
but then again, we think things like dyeing our hair, bleaching our teeth, tanning our skin, wearing colored contacts, etc. are all normal.0 -
rainbowbow wrote: »There are many things people do that are kind of crazy. especially with cosmetic procedures.
Like having implants in the calves, biceps, chest, abs, etc.
Having lasers burn off our body hair.
injected acid/toxins to give their skin more volume.
having fat surgically sucked off our bodies.
having fat surgically injected where we want it.
etc.
but then again, we think things like dyeing our hair, bleaching our teeth, tanning our skin, wearing colored contacts, etc. are all normal.
Yup. Weird when you take a step back.
I have 3 daughters, all teens and tweens now. I try to enforce in them that fitness and health is about celebrating what their bodies can DO, and not what they look like.
My 13 year old taught the 10 year old how to do solid pushups the other night. They did a happy dance in front of American Idol to celebrate. I might have been a little "who's an awesome mom? I'M AN AWESOME MOM!" in my head....0 -
I feel like I am incredibly clueless about different body shapes being in or out of fashion. A month or so ago I told my husband that, only over the last year and only by looking at various fitness sites did I realize how much people talk/think about butts. I understand trying to be the best you that you can be but going to dangerous lengths to be the "in" shape blows my mind.
Take a look at this:
buzzfeed.com/eugeneyang/womens-ideal-body-types-throughout-history#.ekDzANm9o9
I think that the larger butt trend is not going away any time soon. As our cultural, racial and ethnic makeup changes in the US, body ideals change too.0 -
rainbowbow wrote: »There are many things people do that are kind of crazy. especially with cosmetic procedures.
Like having implants in the calves, biceps, chest, abs, etc.
Having lasers burn off our body hair.
injected acid/toxins to give their skin more volume.
having fat surgically sucked off our bodies.
having fat surgically injected where we want it.
etc.
but then again, we think things like dyeing our hair, bleaching our teeth, tanning our skin, wearing colored contacts, etc. are all normal.
Well they dyeing your hair is not the most perfectly natural thing to do but you can't compare it to procedures that put your life at risk. There should be some borders.Sometimes you just need to step back and ask yourself "Why am I doing this and is it woth it ? " This whole thing ( about eating and exrcising etc.) should be about improving your health not destroying it...0 -
azulvioleta6 wrote: »I feel like I am incredibly clueless about different body shapes being in or out of fashion. A month or so ago I told my husband that, only over the last year and only by looking at various fitness sites did I realize how much people talk/think about butts. I understand trying to be the best you that you can be but going to dangerous lengths to be the "in" shape blows my mind.
Take a look at this:
buzzfeed.com/eugeneyang/womens-ideal-body-types-throughout-history#.ekDzANm9o9
I think that the larger butt trend is not going away any time soon. As our cultural, racial and ethnic makeup changes in the US, body ideals change too.
I just have to say, that this video is so highly inaccurate it's laughable. I'm sorry, but you cant take someone who's 50lbs overweight, do their hair, and say it's the same as the "ideal of beauty" in that time frame.
You'll notice her visible abs in the painting.
Anything for controversy, eh buzzfeed?0 -
I'm guess they weren't basing the interpretation of "ideal" on one single work of art.0
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Katerina9408 wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »There are many things people do that are kind of crazy. especially with cosmetic procedures.
Like having implants in the calves, biceps, chest, abs, etc.
Having lasers burn off our body hair.
injected acid/toxins to give their skin more volume.
having fat surgically sucked off our bodies.
having fat surgically injected where we want it.
etc.
but then again, we think things like dyeing our hair, bleaching our teeth, tanning our skin, wearing colored contacts, etc. are all normal.
Well they dyeing your hair is not the most perfectly natural thing to do but you can't compare it to procedures that put your life at risk. There should be some borders.Sometimes you just need to step back and ask yourself "Why am I doing this and is it woth it ? " This whole thing ( about eating and exrcising etc.) should be about improving your health not destroying it...
Who cares, seriously? If someone is stupid enough to go and get some unknown substance injected into their body by some unlicensed person, and have their wounds literally super glued together, what do you expect? I claim natural selection on that.
As far as actual cosmetic procedures are concerned that are done by licensed professionals and have been tested, and someone decides it's worth risking their life to modify their body, more power to them! It's none of my business if someone chooses to have selective surgery to alter their appearance and they know all risks going into it. it's ultimately their body and they have to live with themselves.0 -
Even when I was 95 lbs, I had a shelf. It was built and round.
I still have a huge butt now… only difference is it has jiggle.0 -
azulvioleta6 wrote: »I'm guess they weren't basing the interpretation of "ideal" on one single work of art.
All poses and bodies they use in that video are based upon artwork and paintings during that time frame. This is how we judge trends and detnote changes in the "pop culture" of their time. None of us were alive hundreds of years ago, but i can assure you if we were you'd notice that every single one of the things buzzfeed uses is innacurate up until they get to the 1900's.
Even their model that is styled to look like marilyn is significantly larger than she ever was by atleast 20-30 pounds. She was a size 2 in today's sizing with measurements being 37-23-37.
Here's another girl with a 23 inch waist.
I'm simply pointing out that the video you posted is just plain wrong. It's been debunked. And it is commonly used by people in the "fat acceptance" movement to claim that being morbidly obese is healthy, desirable, and it's "unnatural" for humans to like slender and fit bodies. it's just plain wrong.0 -
rainbowbow wrote: »There are many things people do that are kind of crazy. especially with cosmetic procedures.
Like having implants in the calves, biceps, chest, abs, etc.
Having lasers burn off our body hair.
injected acid/toxins to give their skin more volume.
having fat surgically sucked off our bodies.
having fat surgically injected where we want it.
etc.
but then again, we think things like dyeing our hair, bleaching our teeth, tanning our skin, wearing colored contacts, etc. are all normal.
Yep, some of these give me heebejeebees. Plus, injecting botulism toxin to paralyze the muscles that make squinty laugh lines. I'm just not into needles. I'd make a lousy heroin addict.0 -
I've always thought that song was called FAT bottomed girls! :laugh:0
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Squats squats and more squats!0
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christinev297 wrote: »I've always thought that song was called FAT bottomed girls! :laugh:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMnjF1O4eH00 -
I've always had a big butt since I hit puberty. It sucked growing up in the 90's when thin was in. I still have a big butt... I'm a size 11 in jeans but can wear most any small/medium dresses. I LOVE the big butt movement because I get to show mine off more and not feel weird about it!0
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I hate having a big butt. My family picked on me for it a lot. Now I have friends that say they'd kill to have my butt! Having a round bubble butt is in but I want out!! Bring on the firm, perky squat butt already!!0
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No matter how much weight I lose my butt stays the same which I am not complaining about whatsoever but I cannot imagine paying money to have a bigger backside... you want it you work for it! Squats, glute bridge, kneeling leg lifts etc...0
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I've always been over weight, but at my heaviest I think I wore it relatively well because I had large breasts and, you know, a big butt. My butt has just about evaporated, and I genuinely miss it, jiggles and all.0
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I can't believe that Sir Mix Alot has not made an appearance on this thread.0
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There's a developing story in my area about a woman who was unhappy with her butt injections and filed a complaint. Turns out the two women (well, one named Jimmy Joe dresses as a woman) running the operation were doing so for years (evidently with many happy customers) with no licensing and are now on the lam. Past customers said they used "hydrogel", hardware grade I think, and superglue to close the injection site. I was laughing at this story until someone turned up dead on a table in the abandoned clinic. Not so funny.
I'm not old enough to remember "Twiggy" or to be influenced by that period, but I was raised by people who were. "Fat is bad, you're getting fat, don't get fat, those pants make your butt look big, ..." OMG, there was no end to it. A constant refrain. Long before I got chubby, even. It seems I've worked decades for a small firm butt. I can't imagine ever in a million years paying money and enduring pain to get a BIGGER butt. And a jiggly one at that!
Any other stories about crazy stuff people do in pursuit of their body ideal out there? I'm feeling awfully out of step with pop culture at the moment.
Related story.
So I'm sitting in the airport waiting for my flight to leave one day. Years ago. The gate area is not that crowded, so there's a slight buzz of chatter, but not enough to drown out the TVs that are set to CNN.
New story comes on. A woman is suing her plastic surgeon for using "silicon breasts for her butt implant surgery."
CROWD GOES COMPLETELY SILENT.
Everyone is suddenly paying attention to the TV. It was awesome.0 -
An in-shape butt is going to look nice, regardless of its size. I've seen small sad pancake butts to big wide elephant butts. Common denominator: out-of-shape.
Looking at butts is a favorite part of people watching for me. It's like a compulsion.0 -
TimothyFish wrote: »Nothing wrong with using Superglue. As I recall, sticking skin together after surgery is it's original purpose and only later did they start using it to stick coffee cups back together.
Hairdressers use it regularly to close the cuts that the acquire when their scissors snip the skin between their fingers while cutting hair.
A mortician told me that he uses it to keep corpses eyes shut (< stupid trivia that I have in my head )
I do not understand why people would think it's appropriate to bargain shop for any kind of medical procedure. That is not the place to go looking for discounts.0 -
Mine was always really flat, even at my heaviest, until I started lifting. Yay for squats!0
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An in-shape butt is going to look nice, regardless of its size. I've seen small sad pancake butts to big wide elephant butts. Common denominator: out-of-shape.
Looking at butts is a favorite part of people watching for me. It's like a compulsion.
I do this too! And totally agreed that out-of-shape butts are the least desirable. It doesn't matter if you're big or small. Mine can get flat if I'm not doing some minimal exercise. Not saggy flat (not yet) but definitely uninspiring. It doesn't matter how much I weigh. But if I throw in some exercise then it perks up!0 -
I have an hourglass/pear shape (wide shoulders, smallish waist, big hips, big legs). My sister is slim, except for a rounded tush. Her hs boyfriend once told her her butt was too big, & she started freaking out until I told her that her butt was the only way you could see she was a girl (from her shape-- very pretty face!) !!!0
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I don't think it's cultural (though I could be wrong about that). My feeling is more that, as some others have stated, being overweight is becoming not only accepted but the norm. So "a little extra" is accepted and even expected, BUT with the caveat that it has to be "in the right places." (So we're still pretty restricted in whether or not we're acceptable in other people's eyes. That much hasn't changed and, IMO, is still as silly as it's ever been.)
I have a big waist. I always have. Even at 95 lbs., with three miles of very fast walking per day, daily PE class (and our gym teacher WORKED us) plus walking places after school, and then doing calisthenics (as we used to call them - push-ups, sit-ups and so on), my waist was 27 inches. Yes, really. I was definitely not skinny fat and remember sitting down and then pinching my waist to make sure I could pinch less than half an inch, and that was with digging deep. Barring the removal of a rib or two, I'll never be the hourglass ideal. It hasn't seemed to get in my way. I've lived my life and been happy.0 -
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I don't think it's cultural (though I could be wrong about that). My feeling is more that, as some others have stated, being overweight is becoming not only accepted but the norm. So "a little extra" is accepted and even expected, BUT with the caveat that it has to be "in the right places." (So we're still pretty restricted in whether or not we're acceptable in other people's eyes. That much hasn't changed and, IMO, is still as silly as it's ever been.)
I have a big waist. I always have. Even at 95 lbs., with three miles of very fast walking per day, daily PE class (and our gym teacher WORKED us) plus walking places after school, and then doing calisthenics (as we used to call them - push-ups, sit-ups and so on), my waist was 27 inches. Yes, really. I was definitely not skinny fat and remember sitting down and then pinching my waist to make sure I could pinch less than half an inch, and that was with digging deep. Barring the removal of a rib or two, I'll never be the hourglass ideal. It hasn't seemed to get in my way. I've lived my life and been happy.
Same here! I graduated high school weighing 93 pounds at 5'4" tall. Waist? 27 inches. It will never get smaller than that. I don't have enough room between my hip bones and my rib cage! That's why I hate hearing about the waist to height ratio or waist to hip. I had a 32" waist when my weight was in the 140s. I don't think I even qualified as overweight, but I was in the danger zone. Also, between having a large waist and hips that refuse to grow, I will never have below a .8 waist to hip ratio. Just isn't going to happen. Oh, well. Here's to being "not ideal!" <raises glass>0 -
Nice try Cortelli, nice try!0
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