1st time at the gym: Was that OK behaviour?

MikaMojito

My first post in here, so Hi, there!

I've almost always been overweight, sometimes I lost (sometimes unhealthily) and kept the weight of for a year or so but never for long. Now I'm at my heaviest and I'm giving it another try, eating healthily, using my crosstrainer again etc. And I finally decided to join a gym. The ones in my town are far too expensive for me but there's a cheap one in walking distance from my boyfriend.

Yesterday I went there to have a trial training with the head trainer. And I'm a bit weirded out by his behaviour. I warmed up as he told me to but I was pedalling away, he started on a rant about how he never understood overweight people who lost and then gained back and whether we didn't realize that it's stupid behaviour and we just needed more willpower etc. I told him that I'd been been using my crosstrainer for half and hour 2-3 times a week to begin with (!) and he immediately shot me down, saying that half an hour totally wasn't enough and this way there was no point at all.

Was that his attempt at tough love to get me motivated or was he just being a jerk? Is that normal trainer behaviour? I did tell him that he might be a good trainer but no psychologist but he shot me down saying that psychology had nothing to do with weight gain.

Later on I did get some praise because when we did weight machines to do more weights than other beginners apparently do and I had no problems with the crunches etc. But even the praise was along the lines of him not expecting an overweight woman to be able to lift anything at all.

I'm still going to go there because it's close and cheap and a friend goes there as well. But I feel pretty bad about it, really.

Any opinions? Am I overreacting?

lishie_rebooted

He's an *kitten*. Talk to gym management, he shouldn't be talking to gym members that way

AllanMisner

Yes, please do go back to the gym, but request a different trainer. A trainer should provide you with a comfortable environment suited to your goals and needs. Unfortunately, people skills aren’t really a part of the curriculum for most personal training certifications.

cbhubbybubble

Sounds like a jerk to me....nothing wrong with someone to give us a dose of reality or advice, but sounds like he was just being an *kitten* and not in the spirit of helpfulness

wizzybeth

He is a jerk and I would tell the gym manager. He could be discouraging a lot of people from ever coming back.

Myhaloslipped

That is pretty weird and inappropriate, especially since he doesn't know you. He sounds like someone who does not have proper social boundaries.

Emmiejayne90

He should be motivating you not belittling your attempts at gettting fit! If that was me his actions would have sent me in floods of tears straight back to the biscuit tin!

milkywayward

No, it's not acceptable, and it's not personal to you either — he berated you for what he saw as the actions of a whole class of people instead of tailoring his training and advice to you as an individual. Request a different training next time and put in a complaint with management.

MimGSR

MikaMojito wrote: »

saying that psychology had nothing to do with weight gain.

Even giving him the benefit of the doubt and suggesting he was attempting to motivate you with tough love, the above is just not true. He doesn't sound like a very good trainer at all.
I hope there's another one there who you get on with better

Alatariel75

He sounds like an total *kitten*. Go back - the gym is far more than the trainer you see, but don't see him, and if you're comfortable to, complain to management. His attitude and delivery were deplorable.

sarahrbraun

As an obese woman, and a personal trainer myself, that was NOT appropriate behavior for him having just met you.

I don't know that I could be a jerk like that to ANY clients, let alone a brand new one. I know if someone acted like that to me, it would be the LAST time they trained me.

On my own personal fitness journey, I have had 3 male trainers. All of them young and muscular. None of them have insulted or belittled me. They've said stuff like "for better results, I'd like to see you do this" . My current trainer (who I've worked with for a year) has occasionally gotten in an assertive mood and told me "I don't care how many times you rest, but you're not done until you give me X reps" but that's as bad as he gets.

MikaMojito

Kinda glad to see I wasn't just being a wimp!

I WILL indeed go back to that gym because I'm not doing it for him, I'm doing it for me. So he can go get lost.

Unfortunately he IS the manager and head trainer of the gym, so I'd have to complain to him which I think would be pointless. However, since it's a cheap-*kitten* gym, I won't have too much contact with him. Once you know how the machines work and you've been given a plan to follow, you can just go do your thing. The trainers do walk around an correct you if you do something wrong but he's not MY personal trainer. If he was I certainly wouldn't go back.

And to be honest: ONE of the reasons I'm trying to get fit is to have the knowledge that if people talk to me like that I could theoretically (!) punch the in the face really hard. Not that I'd ever do anything like that, I'm usually pretty good at defending myself with words. But I felt so completely out of place there, surrounded by young, slim muscular people (not their fault, they work hard for what they've got) that I let him cow me into silence. It won't happen again.

Thanks for your support, everybody! I hope you're all doing well with weight and fitness!

Larissa_NY

Ugh, gross. Definitely let management know. If he was an *kitten* to you he's probably an *kitten* to everyone else who's overweight.

On the other hand, if he's the head trainer, odds are the gym management knows what kind of a jerk he is and doesn't care. Maybe he's the owner's persistently unemployed brother-in-law. Either way, you can and should either get a different trainer or find a good program online. You don't need a trainer to get in shape as long as you hit the gym with a plan for workouts of increasing difficulty.

Joannesmith2818

Dayum....what a tool. Also he is wrong!
Don't let this fool ruin the gym for you

wizzybeth

he IS the management? OMG. LOL

giantrobot_powerlifting

A cheap gym that fits your needs is hard to pass up, but as your fitness progresses you may feel the need to try new things. MFP can be a good place for that. There are some really experienced people here you can ask questions and direct your own programming (if need be) without Jerky Trainers.

Justygirl77

Joannesmith2818 wrote: »

Dayum....what a tool. Also he is wrong!
Don't let this fool ruin the gym for you

This! For sure.

lichic25

lishie_rebooted wrote: »

He's an *kitten*. Talk to gym management, he shouldn't be talking to gym members that way

Unless its a privately owned gym, there's got to be someone in corporate you can talk to. That kind of behavior is completely unacceptable.

grandmothercharlie

lishie_rebooted wrote: »

He's an *kitten*. Talk to gym management, he shouldn't be talking to gym members that way

^^This!^^

ljones27uk

agree with all this, sounds like the worst P.T Ive ever heard of. You keep up the work on the cross trainer. 5 minutes is better than nothing, so why hes telling you its pointless is beyond me. Its all about Calories In and Calories Out.. Even if you train for 5 minutes and it burns 5 calories.. its still 5 calories in the right direction! Sounds like he's a little confused. :-))
good luck

markiend

Sounds like the sort of plonker who stops people wanting to go the gym, and if they get there in the first place... makes them feel weird.

So , make sure you go back, make sure you let the gym management know. It could be he is suffering from roid rage or is just an idiot

Don't let him stop you

goldthistime

MikaMojito wrote: »

Kinda glad to see I wasn't just being a wimp!

I WILL indeed go back to that gym because I'm not doing it for him, I'm doing it for me. So he can go get lost.

Unfortunately he IS the manager and head trainer of the gym, so I'd have to complain to him which I think would be pointless. However, since it's a cheap-*kitten* gym, I won't have too much contact with him. Once you know how the machines work and you've been given a plan to follow, you can just go do your thing. The trainers do walk around an correct you if you do something wrong but he's not MY personal trainer. If he was I certainly wouldn't go back.

And to be honest: ONE of the reasons I'm trying to get fit is to have the knowledge that if people talk to me like that I could theoretically (!) punch the in the face really hard. Not that I'd ever do anything like that, I'm usually pretty good at defending myself with words. But I felt so completely out of place there, surrounded by young, slim muscular people (not their fault, they work hard for what they've got) that I let him cow me into silence. It won't happen again.

Thanks for your support, everybody! I hope you're all doing well with weight and fitness!

Good for you. Pair of headphones and a good playlist might come in handy.

Nuka_Gina

I'm so sorry. I know that if that had happened to me I would probably be in tears. There is no reason for him to be shaming you that way, let alone talking that way as a trainer. I'm not sure what advice I could give to handle that situation, but don't let that guy get you down. You can totally lose the weight and keep it off. I'm in the same boat as you right now, having lost a lot and gained it back... etc. Feel free to add me because I know that I could use support and motivation, too.

Cryptonomnomicon

To answer your original question that is not acceptable behavior, constructive criticism is different from blatant arrogance and insensitive remarks. Request a new trainer.

Also should have pointed out that if "people did realize that it's stupid behavior and just needed more willpower" he would be out of the job.

Of_Monsters_and_Meat

Weight machine, crunches? Shooting you down.
Get a different trainer. Sounds like he wants you to pay for your membership and never step foot back in the gym.

Here, save yourself some grief. Drop $10 and just buy this. Go in armed with a plan.
http://www.amazon.com/The-New-Rules-Lifting-Women-ebook/dp/B004IE9RGC

PeachyPlum

He sounds like a dick.

I would talk to the owner or manager of the gym and tell them you want a different trainer. I would also expect the owner to make the jerk apologize to me.

dirtyflirty30

Class A A-hole. Trade him in.

MikaMojito

Of_Monsters_and_Meat wrote: »

Weight machine, crunches? Shooting you down.
Get a different trainer. Sounds like he wants you to pay for your membership and never step foot back in the gym.

Here, save yourself some grief. Drop $10 and just buy this. Go in armed with a plan.
http://www.amazon.com/The-New-Rules-Lifting-Women-ebook/dp/B004IE9RGC

I'm not sure I understand your comment. "Weight machine" is not the term he used - I simply don't know the English terms for the different thingies he showed me how to use. And I was also not precise when it comes to crunches - I asked him to suggest exercises for some back problems (lots of desk work...) and there's a kind of reverse crunch thing where you lie on a bench and lower your legs - he suggested that.

If what you mean is that he should have sent me straight to the free weights section - he asked if I wanted to try them and I told him I wasn't sure yet and he told me to try the machine thingies and he'd show me how to use the free weights whenever I felt ready.

I know that heavy lifting for women is a huge thing in the states atm but over here, it's still fairly rare for women to use the free weights. I wouldn't feel comfortable there right now, so I see no harm in starting on the machines.

MikaMojito

lichic25 wrote: »

lishie_rebooted wrote: »

He's an *kitten*. Talk to gym management, he shouldn't be talking to gym members that way

Unless its a privately owned gym, there's got to be someone in corporate you can talk to. That kind of behavior is completely unacceptable.

It IS a franchise but things are different in Germany. You might complain to the manager of a restaurant if the food was cold but apart from that it's very unusual to go higher up to complain about somebody. I've had checkout staff at the restaurant say rude things and people at clothing shops. Complaining about this kind of thing just doesn't get done here.

rjmudlax13

Sounds like a pretty crappy trainer to me. Also, that is completely unprofessional behavior.

FitPhysique

OMG! I can't believe anyone would think that it is acceptable to behave so poorly. You should report him to management. That must have been so surreal...I personally would have thought I was on a hidden camera show.

He was very unprofessional. If his intent was to motivate, he should be more tactful. Either way, you should not waste your time or your hard earned money in the company of such individual!