"Fad Diets"
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Seriously OP, if you don't want to hear any negative opinions, why do you even ask for opinions at all?0
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ayannabayer wrote: »ayannabayer wrote: »
If MyFitnessPal had a mission statement, one of things at the top of the list would be that the community is opposed to fad diets. That's just the way it is.
Many of the veterans here have spent years, decades even on the yo-yo of fad diets. So they get their hackles up. But it's all meant in people's best interests.
Exactly. But it'd be better if the veterans could give me knowledge on their personal experiences. No headaches.
That's exactly what they are doing -- giving you knowledge based on experience. That that knowledge is that fad diets are a ripoff that don't work may bother you, but it doesn't alter the truth.
From your SCREAMING OP here, it doesn't sound like you want knowledge based on experience. Sounds like you want to learn for yourself, the long, hard, frustrating way. So, er. Good luck with that.
For those keeping score at home, here's this OP's box score ... it's one lemonade detox thread, one detox turned smoothie thread, a fad diet question thread ... all with the same advice provided to the OP ... now a mean person and a fad diet, try them if you want even when science and experience of others show them to be foolish or something like that rant in the span of a couple of hours.
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Fad: "an intense and widely shared enthusiasm for something, especially one that is short-lived; a craze."
Short lived craze with short lived results (and often dangerous) I'm guilty of trying plenty in the past and they really don't work in the long run.0 -
MAYBE THE NEW FAD DIET IS SCREAMING ON THE INTERNET. There, I burned 5 calories...now I can eat a cupcake.0
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ayannabayer wrote: »PEOPLE SHOULD TRY THEM IF THEY WANT!!!! NO TWO PEOPLE ARE THE SAME. WHAT WORKS FOR ONE PERSON, MAY NOT WORK FOR ANOTHER.
Go for it.0 -
ayannabayer wrote: »PEOPLE SHOULD TRY THEM IF THEY WANT!!!! NO TWO PEOPLE ARE THE SAME. WHAT WORKS FOR ONE PERSON, MAY NOT WORK FOR ANOTHER.
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ayannabayer wrote: »ayannabayer wrote: »
If MyFitnessPal had a mission statement, one of things at the top of the list would be that the community is opposed to fad diets. That's just the way it is.
Many of the veterans here have spent years, decades even on the yo-yo of fad diets. So they get their hackles up. But it's all meant in people's best interests.
Exactly. But it'd be better if the veterans could give me knowledge on their personal experiences. No headaches.
Um I seem to remember distinctly going out of my way to give you said "knowledge on their personal experiences"...
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10128206/the-rapid-pulse/p2
You failed to mention that or the fact I tried to be "POSITIVE" as you had already stated the "Negativity" was not to your liking. But I guess it isn't worth mentioning that at all, just your grievances. I bet you didn't even bother to read the links that I provided.
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OP, you're free to try any diet you choose. Who knows? Maybe one will work for you.
For me personally, having controlled my weight since 1978 (and having been overweight since 2003), the ONLY thing that has EVER worked long-term (meaning more than a month) has been CICO. That doesn't mean one "fad" or another will work for you. But I think a lot of us have tried all the All You Can Eat of Only Food Category X diets, and the Eat In Only These Combinations diets, and Working Out Will Absolutely Offset Overeating diets, and for a huge percentage of us, they just didn't work.
But yes. You can try whatever you want. Anyone can.0 -
Of course people can do whatever they want.
But that doesn't mean people who have done the same things can't try to save them their time, money and effort.0 -
Call me crazy, but I prefer being told the truth from people who know what they're talking about.0
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If any of these "fad diets" actually worked then why isn't everyone slim and trim?0
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And I have the right to lolcats at somebody paying outrageous amounts of money to fall flat on their face. If when that happens.
If you post in a public forum, you will get responses you do not like. These forums are completely mild and actually full of people who do want to help. You might not like their message. You might not light their method. But you did, in fact, ask. You cannot dictate the responses of others.
Fads are fads, they don't typically have high success rates, those that do find success usually find it very short lived. That is why there are * all over fad diet claims. Results are not typical, or sustained. That actually IS the reality of most peeps doing fad diets.
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TheFitnessTutor wrote: »"everyone's different" and "what works for one person" are for people who don't know enough information. Noone should try a fad diet unless they like doing unhealthy things(in most cases) scientifically unsound and or unsustainable things. If that or experimentation is your thing then do it. Most people don't want to be guinea pig in an experiment. We are not "all different" ...we're the same....our mitochondria all work the same. All of our processes are(unless diseased) the only thing different is the rates at which they work.
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I personally think people should have a choice in the matter. Yes, people should be informed about them being unnecessary, but ultimately I don't see anything wrong with that since most of them are pretty short (3 days to a week).
When my mother travels to visit her parents every year she always comes back about 10 pounds heavier, diets down back to her normal weight in a couple of weeks using an extreme diet, and stays at that weight till next year. She has done it every since I remember and it's working for her, so who am I to tell her otherwise? She has been around the same weight for all of her adult life.
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rainbowbow wrote: »I am really tired of seeing stuff like "We're all different!". That may be the case, however, we are the SAME SPECIES! If we were all so "vastly different" then things like modern day medicine and surgery wouldn't work.
Rainbow - we are the same species but we are not the same! If we are all the same then there would be no allergies!
We may be born with the same organs so the "surgeries" would work but our genetic make up makes us the same species, different!
I can eat all the dairy I want but my friend can die if he consumes it...still the same species, but different!
I can eat all the gluten I want, but my friend Andrea goes into severe allergic reaction when she consumes anything with gluten...still the same species, but different!
I prefer to walk for my exercise because I hate running, but my friend Jordan will only run...same species, but different!
I am allergic penicillin and sulpha based medicines, but my brother is not...same species, but different.
That is why what definitely works for one, may not work for another! A person doing South Beach may work for them, but others may not for the reasons I described above...same with paleo...etc.
I don't like to eat raw tomatoes but my mom eats them off the vine. I like raw celery but don't like cooked celery...others are completely opposite. It's all what works for them!
How boring boring would it be if we were all the same!?0 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »I personally think people should have a choice in the matter. Yes, people should be informed about them being unnecessary, but ultimately I don't see anything wrong with that since most of them are pretty short (3 days to a week).
When my mother travels to visit her parents every year she always comes back about 10 pounds heavier, diets down back to her normal weight in a couple of weeks using an extreme diet, and stays at that weight till next year. She has done it every since I remember and it's working for her, so who am I to tell her otherwise? She has been around the same weight for all of her adult life.
I think this is true, and don't really care if people want to use them this way (or what other people do at all). My issue with fad diets and why I post in threads about them sometimes is that they are usually based on insulting and nonsensical claims about why they work (special foods or combinations of foods that are "fat burning" or allow you to eat as much as you want magically or some such). I think those deserve to be debunked because knowledge and facts are always better. Extreme diets or fad diets often do work in the short term (or for people like your mother who just gain a few lbs in a situation and want to lose it and go back to normal), but only because they create a significant calorie deficit.
People wanting so badly to believe that there's a way they can lose without the deficit or thinking that they won't lose without getting the right combos of food are, I think, generally harmful so I think they should be argued against. That doesn't mean there aren't people who do short term extreme diets understanding what they are doing (and that it wouldn't be such a great idea for someone with lots of weight to lose or who doesn't yet understand how to eat a healthy diet).
I also find most fad diets kind of insulting, so get why others are bugged by them (the moronic fashion approach to food discussed in the other thread is one such example).0 -
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