Protein

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  • J72FIT
    J72FIT Posts: 6,002 Member
    edited April 2015
    I have been told by a personal trainer that the 40% protein, 30% fat and carb ratio is ideal for weight loss and muscle tone.

    This is not necessarily true. While in a deficit it is important to increase protein, but not necessarily to be set blindly at 40%. Here is a more accurate formula. Take your weight in kilograms and multiply by 1.6. That should be a sufficient amount of protein.
  • slucki01
    slucki01 Posts: 284 Member
    Personal trainers are not dieticians or nutritionists. 40% for protein is very high and 30% for carbs is very low
  • jodilynn783
    jodilynn783 Posts: 17 Member
    I don't eat meat either and can relate to the challenge. I've been sticking to plain, Greek yogurt, eggs, tuna and 2% cottage cheese to help boost my protein. I think I'll need to add protein powder.
  • jodilynn783
    jodilynn783 Posts: 17 Member
    Will work on figuring out my weight and protein ratio. I find it quite surprising to see how many foods I thought were healthy have high amounts of simple carbs. This has been an eye opening of experience for me.
  • J72FIT
    J72FIT Posts: 6,002 Member
    slucki01 wrote: »
    40% for protein is very high and 30% for carbs is very low

    Not necessarily...


  • ForecasterJason
    ForecasterJason Posts: 2,577 Member
    tzarba wrote: »
    Why is 40% considered high? Isn't that what zone is? I do 40% protein and I'm a vegetarian.
    In a lot of cases, that is substantially more than the body can utilize.

  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    edited April 2015
    tzarba wrote: »
    Why is 40% considered high? Isn't that what zone is? I do 40% protein and I'm a vegetarian.

    I believe Zone is 40% carb, 30% protein and fat.

    But 40% is high because there's no need to get more than (at most) your lean mass in grams (and the official recommendation is less).

    If you eat really low calories (which there's also often no need to do), like 1200, 40% is 120, so might make sense for someone with a lean mass of 120 (which would mean at a 25% BF percentage someone who weighs about 160. However, for many others it makes no sense at all. I'm only 125 and am eating at about 1900 calories, so 40% protein would be 190 grams of protein, which is entirely unnecessary.

    Protein also tends to be more expensive and to come coupled with either carbs or fat (especially if you can't eat lean meat (because vegetarian) and don't want to eat a ton of protein supplements or fake meats). Thus, there's no reason to aim for 40% in general. There are people it might make sense for, but for most not, and advice from a personal trainer that it's some ideal ratio seems silly.

    The bigger issue, I think, is that right now people are suspicious of carbs (and reducing carbs does tend to reduce water weight), and yet many are still scared of fat, so protein seems like the good guy. But that's not a good approach to food and leads to people over-consuming protein (usually with no harm, however, but it's certainly not necessary).
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    Will work on figuring out my weight and protein ratio. I find it quite surprising to see how many foods I thought were healthy have high amounts of simple carbs. This has been an eye opening of experience for me.

    Like what?

    There's nothing wrong with simple carbs. Fruit are basically simple carbs, and fruit is good for you.
  • wilsoncl6
    wilsoncl6 Posts: 1,280 Member
    Macros are important depending on what you're trying to achieve. If it's just weight loss, then it matters little. Fat has more calories than protein so a diet higher in fat will net you more calories per gram of food you intake meaning less food you can eat throughout the day. If you're trying to gain or retain muscle while losing fat then a diet that is higher in protein and carbs is more important to provide the energy for your workouts and to repair muscle fibers.
  • wilsoncl6
    wilsoncl6 Posts: 1,280 Member
    I have been told by a personal trainer that the 40% protein, 30% fat and carb ratio is ideal for weight loss and muscle tone. As for losing weight in certain areas I realize you can't spot lose but I am noticing a difference in my belly. Perhaps I am losing it all around but I notice it most in my stomach? : )

    Everybody loses it in different places at different rates. You might be one of the lucky ones that loses it in the belly quicker than most although you are likely losing it elsewhere as well.
  • jodilynn783
    jodilynn783 Posts: 17 Member
    wilsoncl6 wrote: »
    I have been told by a personal trainer that the 40% protein, 30% fat and carb ratio is ideal for weight loss and muscle tone. As for losing weight in certain areas I realize you can't spot lose but I am noticing a difference in my belly. Perhaps I am losing it all around but I notice it most in my stomach? : )

    Everybody loses it in different places at different rates. You might be one of the lucky ones that loses it in the belly quicker than most although you are likely losing it elsewhere as well.

  • jodilynn783
    jodilynn783 Posts: 17 Member
    I appreciate everyone helping me out. Seems I don't need to be so stuck on percentages but I need to continue to eat healthy and workout. Thanks for all of the advice. : )
  • mpat81
    mpat81 Posts: 353 Member
    Second the sardines, also shrimp. Just think like bubba from Forrest Gump - shrimp stir fry, shrimp cocktail, shrimp salad. So versatile!
  • Charliegottheruns
    Charliegottheruns Posts: 286 Member
    I appreciate everyone helping me out. Seems I don't need to be so stuck on percentages but I need to continue to eat healthy and workout. Thanks for all of the advice. : )
    How about a Isolate Protein Shake.
  • sclause
    sclause Posts: 86 Member
    beans, lentils, eggs, cottage cheese, greek yogurt, quinoa... Or if you are like me and dont like meat or tofu or eggs and everything else and, protein powder.
  • Talan79
    Talan79 Posts: 782 Member
    I got it mixed up. Looking at my settings now and I do have mine set at 30% protein.
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