Calling all Anti-inflammatory Eaters out there...!!!!!
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Anyone? It's all about eating low glycemic index foods to reduce inflammatory in the body. Supported by high profile docs such as Dr. Andrew Weil and Nicholas Perricone.
Please send me a friend request if you are on board with this approach to eating. I would love to know others who are committed to this way of eating.
Please send me a friend request if you are on board with this approach to eating. I would love to know others who are committed to this way of eating.
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(crickets.)
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Like the "alkalkine diet", this diet is a proposed theory and doesn't have any peer reviewed evidence to truly support it.
Yes some foods inflame, but what inflames one, may not inflame another, so it's basically a book then generally sweeps among the population.
More than likely it's reflecting on the "free radicals" concept in the body. Just calorie restriction alone will reduce it. There's also the route of taking in antioxidants if one is that concerned about it.
Your best bet: get in a good amount of fruit and vegetables daily in your diet.
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Nice reply. You have obviously made several assumptions and haven't taken the time to fully flush through the research yourself. There's a boat load of peer-reviewed research on the topic. Contrary to how some navigate, I hold theories to a high standard and personally vet the research. (Yes, I do have a Ph.D. and have heard Dr. Andrew Weil lecture first-hand and have spent time in Harvard's Brigham and Women's Hospital in Boston where anti-inflammatory eating is discussed and supported at every juncture.) The popular alkaline diet isn't on the same shelf with regard to what can be found on the topic of anti-inflammatory eating. You are misguided to think that anti-inflammatory eating is as flat as that in terms of critical review and solid science... // The anti-inflammatory eating approach is much more than a book and the glycemic index is based on a wide sample and quite extensively studied for reliability among healthy adults. You might appreciate the literature if you dig around. I didn't defend the approach in my post because I am simply looking for others who have already themselves embraced the routine. I also didn't ask for advice, but thanks so very much for the fruit and vegetables tip! It's great that you are a MFP moderator. I'm sure that you are doing wonders for this site with nearly 27K posts.-6
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this'll end well...0
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Really??? After being on MFP for a few years now, I think it's ridiculous that so many people flock to reply to forum posts that are irrelevant to them, just so they can say it's wrong. The OP was asking for people to reply back who are interested in something in particular. If you're not, be quiet and move on. This post does not concern you. It's not your place in life to be self righteous and prove everyone else wrong. Let the OP get replies back that are relevant to what they're looking for, which is people who are interested in their diet. Maybe it's wrong and maybe it's right - doesn't matter. That's like me asking a bunch of people if they want candy and nobody walks up because there's a bunch of a**holes in front of them lecturing me about sugar. Back off and let people do what they want and make their own mistakes. And I know this is pointless but I had to rant. Rant over.
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Really??? After being on MFP for a few years now, I think it's ridiculous that so many people flock to reply to forum posts that are irrelevant to them, just so they can say it's wrong. The OP was asking for people to reply back who are interested in something in particular. If you're not, be quiet and move on. This post does not concern you. It's not your place in life to be self righteous and prove everyone else wrong. Let the OP get replies back that are relevant to what they're looking for, which is people who are interested in their diet. Maybe it's wrong and maybe it's right - doesn't matter. That's like me asking a bunch of people if they want candy and nobody walks up because there's a bunch of a**holes in front of them lecturing me about sugar. Back off and let people do what they want and make their own mistakes. And I know this is pointless but I had to rant. Rant over.
I support this rant.
Support of rant over.
OP, sorry to comment without being relevant (but at least it's positive)...good luck finding some other anti-inflammatory eaters out there!0 -
Really??? After being on MFP for a few years now, I think it's ridiculous that so many people flock to reply to forum posts that are irrelevant to them, just so they can say it's wrong. The OP was asking for people to reply back who are interested in something in particular. If you're not, be quiet and move on. This post does not concern you. It's not your place in life to be self righteous and prove everyone else wrong. Let the OP get replies back that are relevant to what they're looking for, which is people who are interested in their diet. Maybe it's wrong and maybe it's right - doesn't matter. That's like me asking a bunch of people if they want candy and nobody walks up because there's a bunch of a**holes in front of them lecturing me about sugar. Back off and let people do what they want and make their own mistakes. And I know this is pointless but I had to rant. Rant over.
There are newbies who read these forums who might not have much if any experience with nutrition and fitness. If a post like this puts forth a theory and calls it fact, there is nothing wrong with someone pointing out possible flaws or issues with a post so that those reading get both sides of the story. Especially a moderator.0 -
TavistockToad wrote: »this'll end well...
Agree and white knights to the rescue, lol.0 -
Really??? After being on MFP for a few years now, I think it's ridiculous that so many people flock to reply to forum posts that are irrelevant to them, just so they can say it's wrong. The OP was asking for people to reply back who are interested in something in particular. If you're not, be quiet and move on. This post does not concern you. It's not your place in life to be self righteous and prove everyone else wrong. Let the OP get replies back that are relevant to what they're looking for, which is people who are interested in their diet. Maybe it's wrong and maybe it's right - doesn't matter. That's like me asking a bunch of people if they want candy and nobody walks up because there's a bunch of a**holes in front of them lecturing me about sugar. Back off and let people do what they want and make their own mistakes. And I know this is pointless but I had to rant. Rant over.
Thank you. Well stated. Truth is that I've been on here for over two years and I have become disheartened by the community forums. I finally made what I felt was a pretty direct friend request and a MODERATOR jumped in with the attitude and judgement. Ironically, it is defensible, but I have no intention on defending it. I do appreciate you taking the time to adjust the attitude and to reaffirm that I had a pretty direct friend request and "introduction" of what I maintain I wish to do with my eating freedom...
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TavistockToad wrote: »this'll end well...
Agree and white knights to the rescue, lol.
Yep; spare me.0 -
In what is the anti-inflammation diet supposed to reduce inflammation?0
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I just popped in because I have Crohn's.
Gonna pop back out now
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Really??? After being on MFP for a few years now, I think it's ridiculous that so many people flock to reply to forum posts that are irrelevant to them, just so they can say it's wrong. The OP was asking for people to reply back who are interested in something in particular. If you're not, be quiet and move on. This post does not concern you. It's not your place in life to be self righteous and prove everyone else wrong. Let the OP get replies back that are relevant to what they're looking for, which is people who are interested in their diet. Maybe it's wrong and maybe it's right - doesn't matter. That's like me asking a bunch of people if they want candy and nobody walks up because there's a bunch of a**holes in front of them lecturing me about sugar. Back off and let people do what they want and make their own mistakes. And I know this is pointless but I had to rant. Rant over.
There are newbies who read these forums who might not have much if any experience with nutrition and fitness. If a post like this puts forth a theory and calls it fact, there is nothing wrong with someone pointing out possible flaws or issues with a post so that those reading get both sides of the story. Especially a moderator.
And, for the record --> when did I put a theory out as fact? There happens to be a lot of interesting research on the topic, but it's simply how I eat and I'm looking for others who happen to eat this way too. It does happen to be supported by high profile doctors who have a pretty deep, holistic approach to health and well-being. Weil is Harvard trained and has been around the block. I've met him and he helped me with my own health journey.0 -
Really??? After being on MFP for a few years now, I think it's ridiculous that so many people flock to reply to forum posts that are irrelevant to them, just so they can say it's wrong. The OP was asking for people to reply back who are interested in something in particular. If you're not, be quiet and move on. This post does not concern you. It's not your place in life to be self righteous and prove everyone else wrong. Let the OP get replies back that are relevant to what they're looking for, which is people who are interested in their diet. Maybe it's wrong and maybe it's right - doesn't matter. That's like me asking a bunch of people if they want candy and nobody walks up because there's a bunch of a**holes in front of them lecturing me about sugar. Back off and let people do what they want and make their own mistakes. And I know this is pointless but I had to rant. Rant over.
There are newbies who read these forums who might not have much if any experience with nutrition and fitness. If a post like this puts forth a theory and calls it fact, there is nothing wrong with someone pointing out possible flaws or issues with a post so that those reading get both sides of the story. Especially a moderator.
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It's GIF o'clock! Yay. Now it will get really fun...0
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Really??? After being on MFP for a few years now, I think it's ridiculous that so many people flock to reply to forum posts that are irrelevant to them, just so they can say it's wrong. The OP was asking for people to reply back who are interested in something in particular. If you're not, be quiet and move on. This post does not concern you. It's not your place in life to be self righteous and prove everyone else wrong. Let the OP get replies back that are relevant to what they're looking for, which is people who are interested in their diet. Maybe it's wrong and maybe it's right - doesn't matter. That's like me asking a bunch of people if they want candy and nobody walks up because there's a bunch of a**holes in front of them lecturing me about sugar. Back off and let people do what they want and make their own mistakes. And I know this is pointless but I had to rant. Rant over.
Thank you. Well stated. Truth is that I've been on here for over two years and I have become disheartened by the community forums. I finally made what I felt was a pretty direct friend request and a MODERATOR jumped in with the attitude and judgement. Ironically, it is defensible, but I have no intention on defending it. I do appreciate you taking the time to adjust the attitude and to reaffirm that I had a pretty direct friend request and "introduction" of what I maintain I wish to do with my eating freedom...
Attitude and judgement? Where? I don't see any attitude or judgement in his post. Perhaps you are reading a tone that really isn't there.
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The problem is that dietary advice is constantly changing. Did you know that Dr. Andrew Weil used to recommend low-fat dairy? He changes his stance every now and then due to new research studies coming out. Just keep in mind that the recommendations in this anti-inflammatory diet will likely change as well.
I have been around the block more than once trying out all sorts of these ways of eating (including this one and the alkaline diet!) and the irony blows my mind every time. My personal experience is that I actually feel better and easily maintain a healthy athletic body when I eat a mix of foods without any restrictions. I just eat what I like and what agrees with my digestion. Yes, that happens to include Pop Tarts, Nutella, fast food, and other so-called inflammatory foods. Oh, the irony!0 -
I am trying to eat a low saturated fat, no trans fat, low added sugar, low sodium diet. I believe those are some of the tenants of the low-inflammation diet as well, though I'm not sure. My diary is open, though the past few days were a little rough due to Easter candy and richer than normal foods. I'm back on track today, though!0
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1. Never eat carbohydrate foods and acid foods at the same meal.
2. Never eat a concentrated protein and a concentrated carbohydrate at the same meal
3. Never consume two concentrated proteins at the same meal.
4. Do not consume proteins with fats.
5. Do not eat acid fruits with proteins.
6. Do not consume starches and sugars together.
7. Eat but one concentrated starch food at a meal.
I had no idea what this diet is so I used Google and these are some of the rules of this diet. I applaud you and the others who are able to sustain this as I know I certainly couldn't. Anything that has restrictions feels too much like a diet and I have failed at diets for most of my life, so CICO seems to work best for me, as it has no restrictions. However, can I ask a question, as I wasn't able to find it during my brief google search. Is this diet to eliminate inflammatory for someone who has poor circulation? joint issues? old football injuries etc? While I eat most of the foods on this food list for this alkaline diet (but obviously not in those combos listed above) I have arthritis in my hands and hip, is this saying that those foods help to reduce the inflammation?
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1. Never eat carbohydrate foods and acid foods at the same meal.
2. Never eat a concentrated protein and a concentrated carbohydrate at the same meal
3. Never consume two concentrated proteins at the same meal.
4. Do not consume proteins with fats.
5. Do not eat acid fruits with proteins.
6. Do not consume starches and sugars together.
7. Eat but one concentrated starch food at a meal.
I had no idea what this diet is so I used Google and these are some of the rules of this diet. I applaud you and the others who are able to sustain this as I know I certainly couldn't. Anything that has restrictions feels too much like a diet and I have failed at diets for most of my life, so CICO seems to work best for me, as it has no restrictions. However, can I ask a question, as I wasn't able to find it during my brief google search. Is this diet to eliminate inflammatory for someone who has poor circulation? joint issues? old football injuries etc? While I eat most of the foods on this food list for this alkaline diet (but obviously not in those combos listed above) I have arthritis in my hands and hip, is this saying that those foods help to reduce the inflammation?
That is actually the food-combining diet you listed the rules for.0 -
kazaargrandcru wrote: »The problem is that dietary advice is constantly changing. Did you know that Dr. Andrew Weil used to recommend low-fat dairy? He changes his stance every now and then due to new research studies coming out. Just keep in mind that the recommendations in this anti-inflammatory diet will likely change as well.
I have been around the block more than once trying out all sorts of these ways of eating (including this one and the alkaline diet!) and the irony blows my mind every time. My personal experience is that I actually feel better and easily maintain a healthy athletic body when I eat a mix of foods without any restrictions. I just eat what I like and what agrees with my digestion. Yes, that happens to include Pop Tarts, Nutella, fast food, and other so-called inflammatory foods. Oh, the irony!
Great post. Just happens to be that for me, at this moment in my life, this approach had done wonders for me!!!!! Wish Nutella agreed with my system! I have a reason for eating anti-inflammatory and it is based on my unique body's response to foods. I appreciate that weil updates his views based on the research. It can be unsettling to change gears based on findings and the dismissal of what you had subscribed to in the past. Bottom line take away I have from your post is to eat in a way that works for you. For me, it's anti-inflammatory eating. I appreciate your post and I'm jealous of your capacity to process sugary stuff and maintain an athletic physique. I've explored many different regimens and I'm highly motivated to workout hard. I lift heavy and I also am committed to high intensity interval training; I run about 2 marathons a year. Still can't eat the sugary stuff for reasons not fully understood... I just know what works with my body.0 -
kazaargrandcru wrote: »The problem is that dietary advice is constantly changing. Did you know that Dr. Andrew Weil used to recommend low-fat dairy? He changes his stance every now and then due to new research studies coming out. Just keep in mind that the recommendations in this anti-inflammatory diet will likely change as well.
I have been around the block more than once trying out all sorts of these ways of eating (including this one and the alkaline diet!) and the irony blows my mind every time. My personal experience is that I actually feel better and easily maintain a healthy athletic body when I eat a mix of foods without any restrictions. I just eat what I like and what agrees with my digestion. Yes, that happens to include Pop Tarts, Nutella, fast food, and other so-called inflammatory foods. Oh, the irony!
Great post. Just happens to be that for me, at this moment in my life, this approach had done wonders for me!!!!! Wish Nutella agreed with my system! I have a reason for eating anti-inflammatory and it is based on my unique body's response to foods. I appreciate that weil updates his views based on the research. It can be unsettling to change gears based on findings and the dismissal of what you had subscribed to in the past. Bottom line take away I have from your post is to eat in a way that works for you. For me, it's anti-inflammatory eating. I appreciate your post and I'm jealous of your capacity to process sugary stuff and maintain an athletic physique. I've explored many different regimens and I'm highly motivated to workout hard. I lift heavy and I also am committed to high intensity interval training; I run about 2 marathons a year. Still can't eat the sugary stuff for reasons not fully understood... I just know what works with my body.
Thanks, and yes that is the takeaway I intended: do what works for you and eat what agrees with your body. I do feel happy about being able to eat pretty much anything, but keep in mind I would not feel or look well if I only ate pop tarts and such. I don't over-do anything.
Just stick with what makes you feel best and make changes as needed. It's kind of fun experimenting and seeing what works or not. Keep up the great work, the lifting and hiit will get you far in my experience.0 -
My response wasn't disingenuous. Perhaps how you read it (with some "mean" tone) to it made it sound offensive to you. I merely stated that there isn't much information to truly support the diet (versus any other balanced diet) and correctly stated that foods with antioxidant properties should help. It's not a "bad" diet. In fact it's pretty good. But what type or inflammation are you getting at?Nice reply. You have obviously made several assumptions and haven't taken the time to fully flush through the research yourself. There's a boat load of peer-reviewed research on the topic. Contrary to how some navigate, I hold theories to a high standard and personally vet the research. (Yes, I do have a Ph.D. and have heard Dr. Andrew Weil lecture first-hand and have spent time in Harvard's Brigham and Women's Hospital in Boston where anti-inflammatory eating is discussed and supported at every juncture.) The popular alkaline diet isn't on the same shelf with regard to what can be found on the topic of anti-inflammatory eating. You are misguided to think that anti-inflammatory eating is as flat as that in terms of critical review and solid science... // The anti-inflammatory eating approach is much more than a book and the glycemic index is based on a wide sample and quite extensively studied for reliability among healthy adults. You might appreciate the literature if you dig around. I didn't defend the approach in my post because I am simply looking for others who have already themselves embraced the routine. I also didn't ask for advice, but thanks so very much for the fruit and vegetables tip! It's great that you are a MFP moderator. I'm sure that you are doing wonders for this site with nearly 27K posts.
Muscles get "inflamed" when you work them out. Not a bad thing. Inflammation is also a necessary response to injury/infection. Inflammation is key for the immune system.
If we're talking about "chronic inflammation", then it's probably going to take much more than an "anti inflammatory" diet to correct the issue. Treatments could possibly involve physical therapy and other prescription medicine. Also worth mentioning that just because a food alone may be low glycemic, how's it's prepped and what it's combined with, can change it's glycemic index.
It's not a bad thing to share an "objective" view to the forums.
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Anyone? It's all about eating low glycemic index foods to reduce inflammatory in the body. Supported by high profile docs such as Dr. Andrew Weil and Nicholas Perricone.
Please send me a friend request if you are on board with this approach to eating. I would love to know others who are committed to this way of eating.
Inflammatory what?0 -
Anyone? It's all about eating low glycemic index foods to reduce inflammatory in the body. Supported by high profile docs such as Dr. Andrew Weil and Nicholas Perricone.
Please send me a friend request if you are on board with this approach to eating. I would love to know others who are committed to this way of eating.
Inflammatory what?
Ahh- type-O--*inflammation.
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1. Never eat carbohydrate foods and acid foods at the same meal.
2. Never eat a concentrated protein and a concentrated carbohydrate at the same meal
3. Never consume two concentrated proteins at the same meal.
4. Do not consume proteins with fats.
5. Do not eat acid fruits with proteins.
6. Do not consume starches and sugars together.
7. Eat but one concentrated starch food at a meal.
I had no idea what this diet is so I used Google and these are some of the rules of this diet. I applaud you and the others who are able to sustain this as I know I certainly couldn't. Anything that has restrictions feels too much like a diet and I have failed at diets for most of my life, so CICO seems to work best for me, as it has no restrictions. However, can I ask a question, as I wasn't able to find it during my brief google search. Is this diet to eliminate inflammatory for someone who has poor circulation? joint issues? old football injuries etc? While I eat most of the foods on this food list for this alkaline diet (but obviously not in those combos listed above) I have arthritis in my hands and hip, is this saying that those foods help to reduce the inflammation?
Nope. Not even close. That's some food-combining diet...not something that makes sense to me.
If you are actually curious about anti-inflammatory approaches to eating, here's a link taken from Andrew Weil's page on the topic: http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/ART02012/anti-inflammatory-diet0 -
My husband had adult onset muscular dystrophy and the main treatment this point is an anti inflammatory diet. Prescribed by several of the nations top specialists he sees. He notices a huge improvement with his symptoms on the diet. He didn't argue with the drs about the validity of the diet. He was just glad they didn't start prescribing strong drugs. At this point he diet is very helpful for him.0
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I'm not familiar with those docs, but I am definitely appreciating stuffing my diet with foods that don't promote inflammation. It's a really good idea!Anyone? It's all about eating low glycemic index foods to reduce inflammatory in the body. Supported by high profile docs such as Dr. Andrew Weil and Nicholas Perricone.
Please send me a friend request if you are on board with this approach to eating. I would love to know others who are committed to this way of eating.
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Anyone? It's all about eating low glycemic index foods to reduce inflammatory in the body. Supported by high profile docs such as Dr. Andrew Weil and Nicholas Perricone.
Please send me a friend request if you are on board with this approach to eating. I would love to know others who are committed to this way of eating.
High profile as in 'How much bull-caca can we drop on the public AND convince them to buy our horrible products that don't work, have never worked, and will never work?'
Yeah, these two are high profile all right. Good luck on your gurney.
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My husband had adult onset muscular dystrophy and the main treatment this point is an anti inflammatory diet. Prescribed by several of the nations top specialists he sees. He notices a huge improvement with his symptoms on the diet. He didn't argue with the drs about the validity of the diet. He was just glad they didn't start prescribing strong drugs. At this point he diet is very helpful for him.
Yeah, it has been really helpful for me. I had a serious autoimmune disease and I'm fully back to strong health. I've run several marathons since being diagnosed with what would have been a debilitating disease. I do credit the wisdom of Weil's team and controlling inflammation with this approach to eating. Weil and others are responsible for my recovery. This is such an odd forum --- people so quick to blow the "It's probably BS" horn. If only they took time to read the literature and to understand it context for those for whom it is a prescribed method of inflammation control. Most people are more obsessed with weight loss than health. Weight loss does not equate health though some people need to lose weight to restore their health. Yikes - people are so quick to combat and dismiss what they don't know. All I wanted to do was find others who eat this way...
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