2 hour cardio ?
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BlackScorpio91 wrote: »BlackScorpio91 wrote: »BlackScorpio91 wrote: »BlackScorpio91 wrote: »LMFAO...what hippie does cardio for that long? That's a waste of time and wouldn't it bore the hell out of you? Do resistance training along with low-moderate intensity cardio on certain days....simple. It will lead to slow but steady weight loss. No need to do excessive cardio if you're trying to lose weight...it's stupid and pointless and bad for your health actually.
I enjoy running I love my long distance runs call it me time (meditation time) or what ever. Why would you bash some one who is doing what they enjoy and it is working for them. Granted I would benefit more if I incorporated some form of resistance training with my hippie runs, yes. By the way early on they said weight training was bad for you also, along with fat, along with carbs, what else have they said were bad oh yea eggs too much cholesterol. There are plenty of people who dedicate training to long distance running.
Well I'm not a marathon runner so I wouldn't know that. And I'm just saying...if you're on a MACHINE...it's a waste of time and stupid. Just wanting to let that out as to this day, people still believe that. If you're just running down a trail...that's fine but like I said...I'm not a marathon runner. My goal is to preserve muscle and lose fat while on a moderate deficit.
What do you do with the muscle you preserve?
I'm not an athlete....I just want to be the best person I can be physically and get rid of unwanted fat while preserving as much muscle as possible and that's where lifting heavy and eating as much protein as possible comes in. It makes no sense to be on a calorie deficit and also lose the muscle I've had for years. Basically I just wanna look and feel better about myself.
If you have ambitions to be a personal trainer (as per your profile) you really need to start educating yourself in nutrition and exercise physiology.
If you think cardio equals muscle loss you are badly mistaken.
I have to go through prerequisites before taking those classes at my school. Living with Health is one of them.
I mean this to be well meaning advice as my son is a qualified personal trainer and had to make the same adjustment - you are going to have to work with all sorts of people. Some will have completely different goals to you, your job will be to help them achieve their goals and not yours.
For some it will be a choice between doing something on a cardio machine or doing nothing. Others will want to be an athlete rather than concentrate on physique. Different strokes for different folks doesn't mean an activity is a waste of time or stupid.
Alright got it
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I do cardio for that amount of time fairly regularly, but not at the gym. Generally if I do cardio for 2+ hours it's either walking or it's dancing. I do neither for fitness, just personal enrichment.0
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Long cardio sessions are required for certain athletes. When you are dedicated, you are dedicated. I've seen people do long marathon runs on a treadmill because they wanted to achieve their goal. As with any athlete, you need to learn proper nutrition for before, during and after. You also need to know how to structure workouts and get appropriate rest. Neglecting those will only do more harm than good. Overtraining is a thing (and it is awful, I would know).
Weight loss is simply CI<CO. Doing long and intense exercises just to create a large deficit probably isn't a good idea for the general population. "You can't out-exercise a bad diet", is how the saying goes...0 -
BlackScorpio91 wrote: »
You can eat protein till you're blue in the face and you've blown your kidneys out- that won't save muscle.
You have to use them in order to not loose them. Yes you need protein- but protein + cardio doesn' t = muscle saved.
A well rounded fitness program for general health and wellness will include a cardiovascular component and a resistance/strength training component. The more specific the training goals- the more that is going to tip to one side or another in terms of volume and intensity.
But just eating more protein isn't a catch all for muscle.
Sigh. Man I wish you some good luck- you have a long way to go.0 -
I play 3+ hours of tennis a couple times a week. The best cardio there is for me. Though I hike all day often too. But really, if someone wants to hit the treadmill or other machine for that long, and that's their things, it is 100% more effective than sitting on a couch.
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AllonsYtotheTardis wrote: »AllonsYtotheTardis wrote: »
Perhaps they are training for their sport?
In winter I watch quite a few games of rugby (or other TV programs) on a training bike or elliptical - too cold for me to train outdoors. So instead sitting on my *kitten* on the sofa watching the game I'm working my *kitten* off and still enjoying watching the game.
Is it so surprising that people have different fitness goals?
I train for my sport outdoors all winter, running in temperatures as low as -25C, so, yeah... it does surprise me when people choose to spend that amount of time on a machine.
I run in -20, but not this winter because we had so much snow it was dangerous. The bankings were taller than people, so cars couldn't see you coming. But I'm not going to judge those who choose to run indoors. I tried running an indoor track, and it wasn't for me, but really, who cares what others do? It's not your body or your choice. It's theirs. Live & let live and save your energy for your own personal improvement.
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BlackScorpio91 wrote: »LMFAO...what hippie does cardio for that long? That's a waste of time and wouldn't it bore the hell out of you on a treadmill or elliptical machine??? Do resistance training along with low-moderate intensity cardio on certain days....simple. It will lead to slow but steady weight loss. No need to do excessive cardio if you're trying to lose weight...it's stupid and pointless and bad for your health actually.
--> This hippie does cardio for that long... 3 shorter runs and one long run per week is all part of my training plan. I avoid treadmills for the long runs unless I'm off work late (so its dark outside and I live in a city) or its icy/gross outside and I want to avoid an injury.
Last time I checked training for half and full marathons is not bad for my health. But what do I know, I only work in the medical field
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BlackScorpio91 wrote: »LMFAO...what hippie does cardio for that long? That's a waste of time and wouldn't it bore the hell out of you on a treadmill or elliptical machine??? Do resistance training along with low-moderate intensity cardio on certain days....simple. It will lead to slow but steady weight loss. No need to do excessive cardio if you're trying to lose weight...it's stupid and pointless and bad for your health actually.
I mean...I don't think hippies are the problem, unless you're upset about long hairs getting caught in your treadmill?
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BlackScorpio91 wrote: »LMFAO...what hippie does cardio for that long? That's a waste of time and wouldn't it bore the hell out of you on a treadmill or elliptical machine??? Do resistance training along with low-moderate intensity cardio on certain days....simple. It will lead to slow but steady weight loss. No need to do excessive cardio if you're trying to lose weight...it's stupid and pointless and bad for your health actually.
I mean...I don't think hippies are the problem, unless you're upset about long hairs getting caught in your treadmill?
Maybe he dislikes patchouli? Or natural fibers?0 -
BlackScorpio91 wrote: »BlackScorpio91 wrote: »BlackScorpio91 wrote: »LMFAO...what hippie does cardio for that long? That's a waste of time and wouldn't it bore the hell out of you? Do resistance training along with low-moderate intensity cardio on certain days....simple. It will lead to slow but steady weight loss. No need to do excessive cardio if you're trying to lose weight...it's stupid and pointless and bad for your health actually.
I enjoy running I love my long distance runs call it me time (meditation time) or what ever. Why would you bash some one who is doing what they enjoy and it is working for them. Granted I would benefit more if I incorporated some form of resistance training with my hippie runs, yes. By the way early on they said weight training was bad for you also, along with fat, along with carbs, what else have they said were bad oh yea eggs too much cholesterol. There are plenty of people who dedicate training to long distance running.
Well I'm not a marathon runner so I wouldn't know that. And I'm just saying...if you're on a MACHINE...it's a waste of time and stupid. Just wanting to let that out as to this day, people still believe that. If you're just running down a trail...that's fine but like I said...I'm not a marathon runner. My goal is to preserve muscle and lose fat while on a moderate deficit.
What do you do with the muscle you preserve?
I'm not an athlete....I just want to be the best person I can be physically and get rid of unwanted fat while preserving as much muscle as possible and that's where lifting heavy and eating as much protein as possible comes in. It makes no sense to be on a calorie deficit and also lose the muscle I've had for years. Basically I just wanna look and feel better about myself.
So, you want to be the best you can be physically, and the worst you can be personally?0 -
sunglasses_and_ocean_waves wrote: »AllonsYtotheTardis wrote: »AllonsYtotheTardis wrote: »
Perhaps they are training for their sport?
In winter I watch quite a few games of rugby (or other TV programs) on a training bike or elliptical - too cold for me to train outdoors. So instead sitting on my *kitten* on the sofa watching the game I'm working my *kitten* off and still enjoying watching the game.
Is it so surprising that people have different fitness goals?
I train for my sport outdoors all winter, running in temperatures as low as -25C, so, yeah... it does surprise me when people choose to spend that amount of time on a machine.
I run in -20, but not this winter because we had so much snow it was dangerous. The bankings were taller than people, so cars couldn't see you coming. But I'm not going to judge those who choose to run indoors. I tried running an indoor track, and it wasn't for me, but really, who cares what others do? It's not your body or your choice. It's theirs. Live & let live and save your energy for your own personal improvement.
I don't care what others do. I simply don't understand why someone would choose to spend that amount of time on a machine. I'd rather gouge my eyes out. I guess that means you're more dedicated than I am.0 -
LovelyIvy466 wrote: »BlackScorpio91 wrote: »LMFAO...what hippie does cardio for that long? That's a waste of time and wouldn't it bore the hell out of you on a treadmill or elliptical machine??? Do resistance training along with low-moderate intensity cardio on certain days....simple. It will lead to slow but steady weight loss. No need to do excessive cardio if you're trying to lose weight...it's stupid and pointless and bad for your health actually.
I mean...I don't think hippies are the problem, unless you're upset about long hairs getting caught in your treadmill?
Maybe he dislikes patchouli? Or natural fibers?
Possibly cannabis, or bluegrass?
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Two hours is more cardio than I get weekly. I'll do a 45 minutes once in a blue moon if I want to eat a piece of cake the size of my face. Otherwise 10-30 minutes tops.0
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I have had to do some long runs on the treadmill of 2+ hours. I have a husband who travels for work and cant always find a babysitter so i have to use the gym daycare and a treadmill (cant leave the gym) to fit in some of my long runs in my marathon training. does it suck? you bet but i gotta do what i gotta do .0
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LovelyIvy466 wrote: »BlackScorpio91 wrote: »LMFAO...what hippie does cardio for that long? That's a waste of time and wouldn't it bore the hell out of you on a treadmill or elliptical machine??? Do resistance training along with low-moderate intensity cardio on certain days....simple. It will lead to slow but steady weight loss. No need to do excessive cardio if you're trying to lose weight...it's stupid and pointless and bad for your health actually.
I mean...I don't think hippies are the problem, unless you're upset about long hairs getting caught in your treadmill?
Maybe he dislikes patchouli? Or natural fibers?
Possibly cannabis, or bluegrass?
Everyone likes cannabis. That's just crazy talk.
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I have had to do some long runs on the treadmill of 2+ hours. I have a husband who travels for work and cant always find a babysitter so i have to use the gym daycare and a treadmill (cant leave the gym) to fit in some of my long runs in my marathon training. does it suck? you bet but i gotta do what i gotta do .
That's awesome ! I understand that . you gotta do what you gotta do no excuses .0 -
Getting back to the original post...One time I was riding a stationery bike for 2 hours..Never again! I would rather be cycling outside for 2 hours and if you do endurance cycling your riding 150-300 miles a week.0
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Cardio will save your life.0
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Probaly a dumb question but hey I needed to ask I see people who stay on those cardio machines 2 hours plus lol
Sure. Train for an Ironman. Then you can do 6+ hour sessions.
Granted those are on a bike, and I would shoot myself before doing that indoors on a trainer. But still, even now months out from my upcoming race I have 2+ hour sessions. I also lift nothing heavier than a beer glass. 13+ hours of "cardio" a week...0 -
BlackScorpio91 wrote: »BlackScorpio91 wrote: »LMFAO...what hippie does cardio for that long? That's a waste of time and wouldn't it bore the hell out of you? Do resistance training along with low-moderate intensity cardio on certain days....simple. It will lead to slow but steady weight loss. No need to do excessive cardio if you're trying to lose weight...it's stupid and pointless and bad for your health actually.
I enjoy running I love my long distance runs call it me time (meditation time) or what ever. Why would you bash some one who is doing what they enjoy and it is working for them. Granted I would benefit more if I incorporated some form of resistance training with my hippie runs, yes. By the way early on they said weight training was bad for you also, along with fat, along with carbs, what else have they said were bad oh yea eggs too much cholesterol. There are plenty of people who dedicate training to long distance running.
Well I'm not a marathon runner so I wouldn't know that. And I'm just saying...if you're on a MACHINE...it's a waste of time and stupid. Just wanting to let that out as to this day, people still believe that. If you're just running down a trail...that's fine but like I said...I'm not a marathon runner. My goal is to preserve muscle and lose fat while on a moderate deficit.
Just about anyone running an early spring marathon will be doing much of their long running on a treadmill. Just the way it is. I have put down up to 14 miles on the treadmill this winter. Wasn't much fun but the work had to get done, so I got the work done. Granted that was 1:45 for me, but still that is a long time on the mill0 -
My elliptical only gets 35 minutes 3 times a week of my attention and love.0
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I remember seeing some footage of hippies doing cardio during a 60's Vietnam war protest. To be fair I don't think it was intentional because they were being Tier Gassed.0
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I cycle 3 to 4 times a week and a 2 hour ride is fairly typical with at least 1 ride a week of 4 + hours.
I would quit out of pure boredom if it was a stationary cardio machine.0 -
slideaway1 wrote: »I remember seeing some footage of hippies doing cardio during a 60's Vietnam war protest. To be fair I don't think it was intentional because they were being Tier Gassed.
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sunglasses_and_ocean_waves wrote: »slideaway1 wrote: »I remember seeing some footage of hippies doing cardio during a 60's Vietnam war protest. To be fair I don't think it was intentional because they were being Tier Gassed.
God I love you.0 -
BlackScorpio91 wrote: »
You can eat protein till you're blue in the face and you've blown your kidneys out- that won't save muscle.
You have to use them in order to not loose them. Yes you need protein- but protein + cardio doesn' t = muscle saved.
A well rounded fitness program for general health and wellness will include a cardiovascular component and a resistance/strength training component. The more specific the training goals- the more that is going to tip to one side or another in terms of volume and intensity.
But just eating more protein isn't a catch all for muscle.
Sigh. Man I wish you some good luck- you have a long way to go.
Who the hell told you you only needed to use protein in order to preserve muscle? I never said anything about no resistance training...OF course you need that. What I've been doing is working as I'm losing fat and my muscle mass hasn't decreased at all because I've did a combination of all of the above including strength training and some cardio. You probably misunderstood me.0 -
Does anyone else some days do more cardio than other days ? And if so why ?
Yes. Because marathon training. I run 5-6 days a week. I run 3-8 miles on week days, and usually 12-20 as my Sunday long run. But I never think of my runs as "cardio," just running. And I usually only do my midweek runs on the treadmill, maxing out at about 45-60 minutes. To this day, I've never done a long run on a treadmill.0 -
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Another here who likes to cycle outside for a long time. Get in the zone & just go. It's all good....we all have our different workouts.
eta: & I agree w/above poster, indoor cycle is mind-numbing boring & my hat is off to them who are disciplined to have to use their trainer indoors!!0 -
sunglasses_and_ocean_waves wrote: »AllonsYtotheTardis wrote: »sunglasses_and_ocean_waves wrote: »AllonsYtotheTardis wrote: »AllonsYtotheTardis wrote: »
Perhaps they are training for their sport?
In winter I watch quite a few games of rugby (or other TV programs) on a training bike or elliptical - too cold for me to train outdoors. So instead sitting on my *kitten* on the sofa watching the game I'm working my *kitten* off and still enjoying watching the game.
Is it so surprising that people have different fitness goals?
I train for my sport outdoors all winter, running in temperatures as low as -25C, so, yeah... it does surprise me when people choose to spend that amount of time on a machine.
I run in -20, but not this winter because we had so much snow it was dangerous. The bankings were taller than people, so cars couldn't see you coming. But I'm not going to judge those who choose to run indoors. I tried running an indoor track, and it wasn't for me, but really, who cares what others do? It's not your body or your choice. It's theirs. Live & let live and save your energy for your own personal improvement.
I don't care what others do. I simply don't understand why someone would choose to spend that amount of time on a machine. I'd rather gouge my eyes out. I guess that means you're more dedicated than I am.
No one said that, although you kinda implied it. I can clearly see the game you're playing here. So I'm stepping off cause I won't play this way with my 15 year old.
Nice profile pic BTW. I kinda prefer showing the results of my efforts but don't worry. You will when you get there
That's more than a little low and totally uncalled for. Disagreeing is one thing but personal attacks, wow.
She has a ton of results to show. Whether she decides to use her profile to show it or not is not an indication of success.0
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