All fruit or vegtable juice diet?

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  • Cup_
    Cup_ Posts: 43 Member
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    It's been about 4 years now, but I admit that I did the whole "fat sick & nearly dead" thing. Made my own juices using everything from kale to beets... a variety of around 20+ different items, mixed and matched. I went for like 16 days drinking as much as I wanted. While I would NOT do that again (other than a 24-hour fast on occasion), I ended up losing 17lbs ...of which 15 oddly never came back. I have NO IDEA what I lost really. Fat, water, and/or muscle? I joined MFP to lose a few more dress sizes, and prefer to accomplish it with old fashioned hard work and lifestyle changes. Already dropped a dress size and a half in less than two months with heavy lifting and a little cardio. And, I feel this is the right choice given the fact that I am at the point of my life where I am looking for a long-term solution to a healthier and more fit me.
  • shadowconn
    shadowconn Posts: 141 Member
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    If you want to do that, you need to make your own juices. It is really expensive . . about $12-$15 a day. Juice calculator cause you still need to maintain your calories http://www.juicingcollection.com/juicing-calculator/
  • Orphia
    Orphia Posts: 7,097 Member
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    MKEgal wrote: »
    Sorry for the necropost, but in case someone does a search looking for info, I want them to find
    solid scientific reasons to dissuade them from 'juicing'.

    Drinking a lot of juice is not a healthy way to lose weight, and if you go over your necessary calories you _won't_
    lose weight. Eating calories tells your body it's full. Drinking calories does not.

    Here's a good place to start searching for reliable peer-reviewed research about health topics:
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19110020
    The effect of fruit in different forms on energy intake and satiety at a meal
    "whole apple increased satiety more than applesauce or apple juice... results suggest that solid fruit affects satiety
    more than pureed fruit or juice, and that eating fruit at the start of a meal can reduce energy intake."
    The abstract has a link to the full article, for free.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6259919
    The role of dietary fiber in satiety, glucose, and insulin: studies with fruit and fruit juice
    "Satiety, assessed by two subjective scoring systems, was greater after whole fruit than after juice and the return of
    appetite was delayed. With oranges, as previously reported with apples, there was a significantly smaller insulin
    response to fruit than to juice and less postabsorptive fall in plasma glucose."

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17579632
    Effects of food form on appetite and energy intake in lean and obese young adults
    "total daily energy intake was significantly higher ... on days the beverage forms of the high-carbohydrate, -fat and
    -protein foods were ingested... This was due more to a weak effect on satiety"
    (IOW, solid foods are more satisfying, even if the liquid form has the same # of calories.)


    For advice on how to lose weight in a healthy way, read these, especially sexypants.
    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1080242/a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10012907/logging-accuracy-consistency-and-youre-probably-eating-more-than-you-think

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/819925/the-basics-dont-complicate-it/p1

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/872212/youre-probably-eating-more-than-you-think/p1

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/833026/important-posts-to-read/p1

    Quoting for the evidences. Good post!

    Good to hear the OP changed her mind.

    The only think I'd add is that just having an all liquid breakfast for over a year did TERRIBLE things to my digestion till I worked out that was causing it.

    TMI warning:
    I had diarrhea every single day. Ugh.
  • shadowconn
    shadowconn Posts: 141 Member
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    Orphia wrote: »

    Quoting for the evidences. Good post!

    Good to hear the OP changed her mind.

    The only think I'd add is that just having an all liquid breakfast for over a year did TERRIBLE things to my digestion till I worked out that was causing it.

    TMI warning:
    I had diarrhea every single day. Ugh.

    I do a liquid breakfast these days and my stomach is fine. I have lactose intolerance and IBS, and blending a bunch of fruit with yogurt seems to work for me. Otherwise I think I wouldn't eat until after noon because that's when my stomach officially wakes up.
  • paperpudding
    paperpudding Posts: 9,095 Member
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    I can't see anything wrong with having a liquid breakfast if rest of day is balanced by nutritious normal foods.

    That is very different to liveing entirely on juices alone, which is generally the idea of a juice fast.
  • Orphia
    Orphia Posts: 7,097 Member
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    I can't see anything wrong with having a liquid breakfast if rest of day is balanced by nutritious normal foods.

    I just told you what was wrong with it for me.
    That is very different to liveing entirely on juices alone, which is generally the idea of a juice fast.

    Yes, it 's different, but I imagine it's similar to my circumstances in that it does not provide adequate fibre.
  • melimomTARDIS
    melimomTARDIS Posts: 1,941 Member
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    LOL... whats wrong with diarrhea every day Orphia?