is it impossible to do this?
kodijhill
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So is it really impossible to lose weight without surgery? That's what my doctor tells me they say because the stomach sends out hormones that make u stay fat over a extended amount of time of being heavy I just don't see why it's impossible all doctors I've gone to say well u can try as hard as you like but you will need the surgery anyway so might as well do it now it's very discouraging
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Seriously? There are plenty of people on this site who have proved people can lose hundreds of pounds without surgery. Do you have some type of medical condition that the doctors are using as the basis for that diagnosis?0
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No.
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No surgery, no pills, no crash diet for me. I just logged food and work out daily. I have lost 90lbs and 40inches. It can be done! Good luck!0
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I lost 135 pounds without surgery. Why don't you prove them wrong0
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What? What on earth kind of doctors are you going to?
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So your doctor said that no one in the history of the world has ever lost weight without surgery?
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I'm going to assume you have a lot of weight to lose and the doctor is concerned for the impact this is having on your immediate health so wants you to have surgery as a relief from the strain your body is suffering. No disrespect intended. But whatever the doctor insist upon, you can still do your bit here and change your diet. No reason why the two cannot go hand in hand.0
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I would say most people lose weight without surgery. Eat less calories than you burn and you will lose weight.
Even people who have surgery for weight loss still have to work at it and watch their calorie intake.
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I'm really hoping that you misunderstood your doctor.0
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So is it really impossible to lose weight without surgery? That's what my doctor tells me they say because the stomach sends out hormones that make u stay fat over a extended amount of time of being heavy I just don't see why it's impossible all doctors I've gone to say well u can try as hard as you like but you will need the surgery anyway so might as well do it now it's very discouraging
Find a new doctor.
Or, at the very least, make sure you understood them right. If you did, find a new doctor.0 -
Iron_Feline wrote: »No.
Check out the success board
Seconded. Please check out the success stories board. There are a ton of people who've lost weight without surgery. Even people who've lost 300lbs without surgery. Very inspiring stuff.0 -
What kind of doctor are you seeing? If its one who specializes in weight loss surgery, well, that's your answer. Its their specialty and how they make a living. If you were a used car salesman, and a potential customer approached you - would you tell them 'Get a bike or travel on foot; you don't need a car to get around town'. Of course not! They're going to try and sell you a car!So is it really impossible to lose weight without surgery? That's what my doctor tells me they say because the stomach sends out hormones that make u stay fat over a extended amount of time of being heavy I just don't see why it's impossible all doctors I've gone to say well u can try as hard as you like but you will need the surgery anyway so might as well do it now it's very discouraging
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were u talking to your general dr or someone who performs weight loss surgery? because if it was ur everyday dr ya get a new dr. if it was someone who specializes in well surgery... can't really be surprised then they need to keep having customers!0
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Let's be candid here. It is indeed possible to lose and sustain weight loss without surgery if you are morbidly obese. It is however very difficult. About 5% of people suceed. Behavioral changes, not just diet and exercise are part of most people's success plan.
That said, I believe it is possible. If I didn't I wouldn't be making the effort myself.0 -
Let's be candid here. It is indeed possible to lose and sustain weight loss without surgery if you are morbidly obese. It is however very difficult. About 5% of people suceed. Behavioral changes, not just diet and exercise are part of most people's success plan.
That said, I believe it is possible. If I didn't I wouldn't be making the effort myself.
People who do get surgery face the same failure rate, maybe even higher.0 -
I have lost over 150 lbs without surgery. More than my mother, who had WLS done 2 years before I started losing weight. Of course it's possible.0
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stevencloser wrote: »Let's be candid here. It is indeed possible to lose and sustain weight loss without surgery if you are morbidly obese. It is however very difficult. About 5% of people suceed. Behavioral changes, not just diet and exercise are part of most people's success plan.
That said, I believe it is possible. If I didn't I wouldn't be making the effort myself.
People who do get surgery face the same failure rate, maybe even higher.
Not even close to true. About 20% of patients regain significant weight. 80% do not. Believe me, I am not a fan of weight loss surgery or planning on having it myself even though I am a candidate but these are the numbers, and probably the reason why this Dr is providing advice of this nature.0 -
this totally depends on the study. i have seen some where the percentage who regain the weight is 90%. 20% is the most positive i have ever heard!stevencloser wrote: »Let's be candid here. It is indeed possible to lose and sustain weight loss without surgery if you are morbidly obese. It is however very difficult. About 5% of people suceed. Behavioral changes, not just diet and exercise are part of most people's success plan.
That said, I believe it is possible. If I didn't I wouldn't be making the effort myself.
People who do get surgery face the same failure rate, maybe even higher.
Not even close to true. About 20% of patients regain significant weight. 80% do not. Believe me, I am not a fan of weight loss surgery or planning on having it myself even though I am a candidate but these are the numbers, and probably the reason why this Dr is providing advice of this nature.
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So is it really impossible to lose weight without surgery? That's what my doctor tells me they say because the stomach sends out hormones that make u stay fat over a extended amount of time of being heavy I just don't see why it's impossible all doctors I've gone to say well u can try as hard as you like but you will need the surgery anyway so might as well do it now it's very discouraging
It's not impossible, but it does take a lot of focus and dedication. Most people who lose weight and keep it off make major changes to their lifestyles, including long term tracking of their intake and weight and becoming very active (an hour or more of exercise per day). There do seem to be some physiology and psychology that combine to make it common to regain weight that is lost. I like reading the success board for inspiration. Choose to be exceptional
stevencloser - you are wrong about the success rates of surgery.
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Impossible? No. Does it take consistent disciplined effort? Yes.
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It's not impossible and yes, it's difficult to keep it off. But ANY sustained loss of weight is a good thing for your health. Even a 5-10 lb loss is a good thing, so don't let the big numbers scare you. And even if you go the surgery route, my understanding is that it's also a life long commitment to diet and exercise.0
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My Regular Care Physician told me almost the same thing. I had been planning on having weight loss surgery, but decided a month before that I wanted to do it on my own, and canceled. She told me I will fail without it, and pointed out that I've never lost the weight before, so what makes you think you can do it now? I'm changing my lifestyle so I can stick with it. I started at 360 pds. I've lost 38 so far, it may not be much but I feel great. I eat clean, count calories and go to the gym at least 6 days a week. I absolutely believe you can loose the weight without surgery. The only person who can determine your success is you.0
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kristalynnep wrote: »My Regular Care Physician told me almost the same thing. I had been planning on having weight loss surgery, but decided a month before that I wanted to do it on my own, and canceled. She told me I will fail without it, and pointed out that I've never lost the weight before, so what makes you think you can do it now? I'm changing my lifestyle so I can stick with it. I started at 360 pds. I've lost 38 so far, it may not be much but I feel great. I eat clean, count calories and go to the gym at least 6 days a week. I absolutely believe you can loose the weight without surgery. The only person who can determine your success is you.
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How much weight do you have to lose? Your doctor has some weird opinions on weight loss. I've lost over 100lbs in 2.5 years eating keto (low carb, high fat, moderate protein) and have about 20 more pounds to go til my goal weight. It's possible but requires a lot of effort and self control.0
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WeSo is it really impossible to lose weight without surgery? That's what my doctor tells me they say because the stomach sends out hormones that make u stay fat over a extended amount of time of being heavy I just don't see why it's impossible all doctors I've gone to say well u can try as hard as you like but you will need the surgery anyway so might as well do it now it's very discouraging
well, consider this.
If the stomach is sending out hormones, does this surgery remove the whole stomach?
My guess is they are talking about Ghrelin (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghrelin) which makes you hungry, not fat. Big difference.
Basically it turns on during fasts, and turns off when the stomach is full shrinking the stomach will make it fill sooner.
Of course we can ignore hormones! Once a month my body is flooded with HOLY CRAP HAVE LOTS OF SEX AND GET PREGNANT NOOOOOOW hormones and I've been ignoring those for ages...except for that one time.
If you can control your other hormones, no reason you can control this one.0 -
kristalynnep wrote: »My Regular Care Physician told me almost the same thing. I had been planning on having weight loss surgery, but decided a month before that I wanted to do it on my own, and canceled. She told me I will fail without it, and pointed out that I've never lost the weight before, so what makes you think you can do it now? I'm changing my lifestyle so I can stick with it. I started at 360 pds. I've lost 38 so far, it may not be much but I feel great. I eat clean, count calories and go to the gym at least 6 days a week. I absolutely believe you can loose the weight without surgery. The only person who can determine your success is you.
I agree with this and it seems very realistic. Awesome job on the 38 lbs loss! I find your commitment to changing your lifestyle inspiring! 0 -
isulo_kura wrote: »I lost 135 pounds without surgery. Why don't you prove them wrong
Me too.
I dunno why you would sign up to have your guts irreversibly rearranged and have to be on vitamin supplements the rest of your life than just...I dunno...eat less and seek out therapy, if necessary, to find out why you are eating so much in the first place and how to stop. That seems a lot cheaper and a lot less taxing.
It isn't a quick fix. WLS has many of its own risks and complications. Personally, I found them completely unacceptable when there are other options if I was honestly willing to work at them.
Your doctor wants to sell WLS, that seems apparent enough. If he believes his own BS or not, who knows.0
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