The curse of the BAGEL
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atypicalsmith wrote: »_Terrapin_ wrote: »atypicalsmith wrote: »atypicalsmith wrote: »atypicalsmith wrote: »I've never liked bagels; way too tough and chewy and always seemed odd to me. Then I found out they were boiled in water and understood why they were that way.
Not surprised to see you give an opinion like that.
I'm from New Orleans, where REAL bread is served.
Not surprised to see anything that you're surprised at.
You...quoted yourself. Are you looking in the mirror and commenting on MFP?!?
You need to read more carefully.
LOL MFP fail ….0 -
neanderthin wrote: »
Not any more......or at least that's been my experience over the last decade.....chivalryder wrote: »atypicalsmith wrote: »atypicalsmith wrote: »I've never liked bagels; way too tough and chewy and always seemed odd to me. Then I found out they were boiled in water and understood why they were that way.
Not surprised to see you give an opinion like that.
I'm from New Orleans, where REAL bread is served.
Yeah, I don't know. I'm pretty sure if you want real bread, you have to go to Europe. European bread puts anything in North America to shame.
Fair enough. It's been a while since I was there. Since then, I've met a few European bakers who refuse to any ingredients that aren't from Europe because they couldn't find anything from here that's up to snuff.
Times do change though. Europe used to be an economic powerhouse. Now look that them.0 -
Don't get me wrong, Europe is the epicentre for bread, and the middle east and India aren't too shabby either but lately some of the bread products have been outstanding. Humble bread for example is a guy that bought a farm in my area and turned it into the largest wood burning oven I've ever seen and mills his own heritage grain from the area as well and can't keep up to demand at 7.00 for a kilo loaf with about 7 different varieties. \premier out of Quebec is another larger bakers that's doing it right, Ace bakery in Toronto was probably the first to take bread in Ontario to another level about 20 years ago. Anyway if you ever get to Paris you have to try a baguette from Le Grenier a Pain or the almond croissants...I miss Paris.chivalryder wrote: »neanderthin wrote: »
Not any more......or at least that's been my experience over the last decade.....chivalryder wrote: »atypicalsmith wrote: »atypicalsmith wrote: »I've never liked bagels; way too tough and chewy and always seemed odd to me. Then I found out they were boiled in water and understood why they were that way.
Not surprised to see you give an opinion like that.
I'm from New Orleans, where REAL bread is served.
Yeah, I don't know. I'm pretty sure if you want real bread, you have to go to Europe. European bread puts anything in North America to shame.
Fair enough. It's been a while since I was there. Since then, I've met a few European bakers who refuse to any ingredients that aren't from Europe because they couldn't find anything from here that's up to snuff.
Times do change though. Europe used to be an economic powerhouse. Now look that them.
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None of those are real bagels.
...Well, not to a Montrealer, anyway.
These are proper bagels:
I hear ya!
I try to lose weight doing low carb/keto..
The one thing that makes me derail is a good ol sesame bagel.. or everything bagel.
I just drooled all over my keyboard.
But if you're not restricting carbs, just eat the bagel and modify your day elsewhere like many said.. Unless you can't stop at one, then abstinence my dear
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neanderthin wrote: »
Not any more......or at least that's been my experience over the last decade.....chivalryder wrote: »atypicalsmith wrote: »atypicalsmith wrote: »I've never liked bagels; way too tough and chewy and always seemed odd to me. Then I found out they were boiled in water and understood why they were that way.
Not surprised to see you give an opinion like that.
I'm from New Orleans, where REAL bread is served.
Yeah, I don't know. I'm pretty sure if you want real bread, you have to go to Europe. European bread puts anything in North America to shame.
Too true and what a great thing.
And as far as NOLA? OK, I'll give you beignets; but come out to SF for some fresh, hot, crusty sourdough.
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As far as your bagels go, I have no advice because I live in NYC and the only substitute for a bagel allowed here is a different flavor bagel.
I haven't touched one since I started cutting, but you are right there.
Now I'm reminded of a place near where I used to work (and glad I don't wor there anymore as I was in the bagel place every day) on Westchester Ave. and St. Theresa's. In a very unlikely place for bagels, yet among - if not THE - best I ever had.
Their sun dried tomato bagels... delicious. Pop open the bag and the smell of tomatoes hit you like a brick.0 -
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Actually I would say what the majority of people are saying here. Bagels are not the issue!0
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neanderthin wrote: »
It's well known that NY'ers sneak up to Montreal for bagels and the lox and crème cheese, not to mention the Montreal smoked meat. Your just in denial.mamapeach910 wrote: »Oh fresh New York bagels... I miss you so.
I know nothing of this Montreal nonsense.
Bread? Meh. You can get great bread all over the Northeast. I miss that too.
Yes, I'm sure they do. As would anyone committing such a disgraceful act.
Personally, I'm kind of glad that there's no place local to buy good bagels. Though I will settle for a quasi-bagel every now and again. If I want an authentic bagel, I have to make my own. Same with hot pretzels. Usually the pretzels win. I like them just as well, they're lower cal, the recipe I have is pretty much perfect, I have invested a decent amount of money in lye, and I have some demanding pretzel fans. With the bagels I'm on my own. No one here likes bagels that are more than bread shaped into a ring.
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chivalryder wrote: »neanderthin wrote: »
Not any more......or at least that's been my experience over the last decade.....chivalryder wrote: »atypicalsmith wrote: »atypicalsmith wrote: »I've never liked bagels; way too tough and chewy and always seemed odd to me. Then I found out they were boiled in water and understood why they were that way.
Not surprised to see you give an opinion like that.
I'm from New Orleans, where REAL bread is served.
Yeah, I don't know. I'm pretty sure if you want real bread, you have to go to Europe. European bread puts anything in North America to shame.
Fair enough. It's been a while since I was there. Since then, I've met a few European bakers who refuse to any ingredients that aren't from Europe because they couldn't find anything from here that's up to snuff.
This I can believe. Their food and agricultural standards are much more restrictive than North American standards.0 -
atypicalsmith wrote: »_Terrapin_ wrote: »atypicalsmith wrote: »atypicalsmith wrote: »atypicalsmith wrote: »I've never liked bagels; way too tough and chewy and always seemed odd to me. Then I found out they were boiled in water and understood why they were that way.
Not surprised to see you give an opinion like that.
I'm from New Orleans, where REAL bread is served.
Not surprised to see anything that you're surprised at.
You...quoted yourself. Are you looking in the mirror and commenting on MFP?!?
You need to read more carefully.
Hey, I get it. The quote button can be tricky.......hehehe.. . .
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Oooh Bagels. I might have to join BAGELS ANNONIMOUS with you. God, they're good. They go with everything. Never had the cheesy jalapeno bagels, but they sound delicious (cheese good, jalapenos goood, bagels gooooood...what's not to like).0
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As far as your bagels go, I have no advice because I live in NYC and the only substitute for a bagel allowed here is a different flavor bagel.
I haven't touched one since I started cutting, but you are right there.
Now I'm reminded of a place near where I used to work (and glad I don't wor there anymore as I was in the bagel place every day) on Westchester Ave. and St. Theresa's. In a very unlikely place for bagels, yet among - if not THE - best I ever had.
Their sun dried tomato bagels... delicious. Pop open the bag and the smell of tomatoes hit you like a brick.
Mouth watering.
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I eat a Schar Gluten free bagel twice a week and have not gained any weight back while on maintenance from them. Since you like them I would try to fit them into your calorie intake for the day.0
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I had a bagel this morning in honor of this thread…and because it is deadlift day...0
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I have a bagel and egg white breakfast sandwich more days than not. You can cut out the middle of the bagel and just use the smaller top and bottom 1/3 and save a lot of calories and still get the taste you crave. Depending on what else I have on it my sandwich is around 300-350 cal.0
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Not all bagels are created equal, if it's a really fantastic bagel I would make room for it within your macro/calorie alotments. Is this happening every day or just once a week? If it's every day then I think DH needs to be nicely told maybe lay off bringing home the baked goods a bit. If it once or twice a week then I don't know that that conversation needs to be had. Sometimes people don't know when they are sabotaging you and I think it's OK to let them know about it.0
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KombuchaCat wrote: »Not all bagels are created equal, if it's a really fantastic bagel I would make room for it within your macro/calorie alotments. Is this happening every day or just once a week? If it's every day then I think DH needs to be nicely told maybe lay off bringing home the baked goods a bit. If it once or twice a week then I don't know that that conversation needs to be had. Sometimes people don't know when they are sabotaging you and I think it's OK to let them know about it.
Why? If op is in a deficit why can't she have a bagel everyday????0 -
Not sure where this great southern bread thing is coming from...in my experience as soon as you go below the Mason Dixon line the bread gets progressively worse as you go south. Of course I'm sure there are some bastians of good bread but in general it's the North East/Mid Atlantic and West Coast (San Fran for sure) where the good USA bread is at!0
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As far as your bagels go, I have no advice because I live in NYC and the only substitute for a bagel allowed here is a different flavor bagel.
I didn't quiet understand this until I actually moved to the Tri-State area. And you're right- not all bagels are equal - and NOTHING anywhere in the country is as good as the bagels in this area. Seriously- they do it right.0 -
Yeah, but BBQ.KombuchaCat wrote: »Not sure where this great southern bread thing is coming from...in my experience as soon as you go below the Mason Dixon line the bread gets progressively worse as you go south. Of course I'm sure there are some bastians of good bread but in general it's the North East/Mid Atlantic and West Coast (San Fran for sure) where the good USA bread is at!
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I don't care for bagels myself but if they're your vice, then fit one in a day. Mine is ice cream but I'm buying my own ice cream maker and making healthy ones from scratch.
Oh and Montreal is good for poutine, interesting French and hydro...since they provide most of the hydro for the east coast of north america.0 -
lulucitron wrote: »Oh and Montreal is good for poutine, interesting French and hydro...since they provide most of the hydro for the east coast of north america.
LOL. You eat hydro power? Have fun with that.
We're also known for great cheese, raclette and fondue chinoise, tourtiere, anything with maple syrup in springtime, vegetarian and vegan restaurants, Italian, Lebanese, Greek, Irish pub grub, Haitian, Portuguese chicken, all-dressed pizza, crepes and other brunchables, fresh local bistro fare, microbreweries...
Wait, this thread was about bagels, right? (Sorry, got slightly distracted there.)0 -
rosehips60 wrote: » I live in Iowa, couldn't get a proper bagel to save my soul
Hyvee has those artisan ones though!0 -
Yes, all those things...I adore visiting Montreal.0
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Sweets1954 wrote: »I have been getting mini bagels, they are around 100 calories for one. If I get a regular bagel I only eat half--usually the top since that's where the goodies are. I don't have them often because I need to watch my carbs but they are worth the treat to work it into my daily allotment.
Mini bagels !!! I haven t seen them yet. Will have to look for them I like the portion calorie count. Thank You
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As far as your bagels go, I have no advice because I live in NYC and the only substitute for a bagel allowed here is a different flavor bagel.
I haven't touched one since I started cutting, but you are right there.
Now I'm reminded of a place near where I used to work (and glad I don't wor there anymore as I was in the bagel place every day) on Westchester Ave. and St. Theresa's. In a very unlikely place for bagels, yet among - if not THE - best I ever had.
Their sun dried tomato bagels... delicious. Pop open the bag and the smell of tomatoes hit you like a brick.
Mmmmm... have try Sun Dried Tomatoes instead of cheese. Love them and a bit healthier too I bet.0 -
None of those are real bagels.
...Well, not to a Montrealer, anyway.
These are proper bagels:
I hear ya!
I try to lose weight doing low carb/keto..
The one thing that makes me derail is a good ol sesame bagel.. or everything bagel.
I just drooled all over my keyboard.
But if you're not restricting carbs, just eat the bagel and modify your day elsewhere like many said.. Unless you can't stop at one, then abstinence my dear
I probably could attribute 95% of my adult weight gain to poor carb choices and no carb control over the years. Hoping to moderate or be kind to myself with a good carb correction. Bagels are a tight spot
for me I know it may sound silly but I like the texture more than even the flavor sometimes.
I am working toward plain bagels with controled cheese potions.
Had 1/2 bagel yesterday and today. Found a tip here on Mini Bagels too. I am afraid if I don t try to include these delights I will keep indulging to disasterous ruin when I can't hold back anymore.0
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