Metabolism
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I don't want to lose weight - My goal is fat loss. As we get older the one thing we need to be do is increase intensity of exercise not length of time exercising. Long bouts of cardio for example, as we get older, will increase cortisol levels when our other hormones are changing.0
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DeguelloTex wrote: »The difference between my BMR at 18 and my BMR at 51 is 165 calories per day. Or about one fewer Snickers per day.
Yup, mine is 165 BMR & 220 TDEE,. Not a huge amount by any means but it's enough I choose to consider it.
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I exercise and diet and can't lose weight. I'm 42. I assume my age has something to do with it, but idk. I have low t4 but tsh is normal so dr won't put me on thyroid meds. Any suggestions to boost my metabolism?
nope age is not a factor..I am almost 43 and have lost 53lbs...calorie counting and exercise.
Your metabolism slows as you age.
But not enough where people should be using it as a crutch. The reduction isn't so extraordinary figure.
But certainly enough to include age in every calorie calculator I have seen.
Using anything as a crutch is just that a crutch. It is not reason to ignore the facts, but go ahead, eat at your TDEE set to 18 years old if you don't think it matters.
You are completely missing the point. No one is saying there isn't a difference but it isn't something to write home about. Go ahead and pull up a calculator and look at the difference in calories between my age and your age and tell me if it's so big number.
I think the issue is, is that someone did.
If I use 27 v 47 for me, I get a 140 calorie difference. No huge, but it can easily add up if you do not factor it in.
I just checked out of interest, my actual TDEE is slightly higher than the one I get when using a calculator and setting it to an 18 year old lol.0 -
snickers bar is 250 calories, 150 gets you a Daim bar.0
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For poops and giggles, I decided to run some numbers:
For a man, at 6' 0" tall and weighs 200 lbs:
Age 18: BMR = 2104.
Age 50: BMR = 1886.
If the person were sedentary, that would be 2525 kcal/day and 2263 kcal/day respectively. A difference of 262kcal/day or 10%.
A difference, yes. Substantial difference? Hell no. We're talking about a large cookie or two apples every day.
For a female, 5'6" weighing 150 lbs:
Age 18: 1533
Age 50: 1383
TDEE: 1840 and 1660 kcal/day, 180 kcal/10% difference.
Same percentage of difference, but a much smaller number. That's, like, a banana.
Conclusion: Yes, age does make a difference to how many calories you burn each day. Can you use it as a reason why you can't lose weight? I really don't think so.
If you can't not eat a banana each day, then I guess you can't lose weight, but that has more to do with willpower than it does your age.
ETA: Calculator used: http://www.bmi-calculator.net/bmr-calculator/0 -
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I exercise and diet and can't lose weight. I'm 42. I assume my age has something to do with it, but idk. I have low t4 but tsh is normal so dr won't put me on thyroid meds. Any suggestions to boost my metabolism?
From your profile pic, you look slender. The last Lbs are the toughest to shed. I'm 47 and going on my second month and i'm shrinking. I'm going through menapause and still shedding. I started lifting weights 2 weeks ago and I'm still shrinking. I don't pay too much attention to the scale other than for data and to see a trend. So, don't underestimate yourself. And like I said, you look slender already
Op. Exercise, Lift and eat at a deficit, for me is the only way. Good Luck to you 0 -
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150I exercise and diet and can't lose weight. I'm 42. I assume my age has something to do with it, but idk. I have low t4 but tsh is normal so dr won't put me on thyroid meds. Any suggestions to boost my metabolism?
nope age is not a factor..I am almost 43 and have lost 53lbs...calorie counting and exercise.
Your metabolism slows as you age.
But not enough where people should be using it as a crutch. The reduction isn't so extraordinary figure.
But certainly enough to include age in every calorie calculator I have seen.
Using anything as a crutch is just that a crutch. It is not reason to ignore the facts, but go ahead, eat at your TDEE set to 18 years old if you don't think it matters.
You are completely missing the point. No one is saying there isn't a difference but it isn't something to write home about. Go ahead and pull up a calculator and look at the difference in calories between my age and your age and tell me if it's so big number.
So don't write home about it, it is still a true statement and is factored into your BMR and TDEE. If you choose to ignore it that is your business.
You seriously have some big issue with logic. Today you are saying that age plays a big factor when calculating TDEE but the other day you said that knowing a man's height wasn't important when he was trying to go from 150 lbs to 130 lbs so you are basically picking and choosing when information should be relevant specifically to benefit just you.
I said go ahead and check the actual figures and you'll see the difference isn't extraordinary, I never said there would be no difference. It's time to actually see what's written instead of being deliberately obtuse.
Nope, you are adding your own interpretations to my words.
In this conversation I never said it was a BIG factor. I said it is a factor.
In the conversation the other day, which was a woman by the way I didn't say height doesn't mater for a persons weight I said the principals of CICO doesn't change because of a persons height.0 -
DeguelloTex wrote: »The difference between my BMR at 18 and my BMR at 51 is 165 calories per day. Or about one fewer Snickers per day.
Yup, mine is 165 BMR & 220 TDEE,. Not a huge amount by any means but it's enough I choose to consider it.
You are missing the point of the above posters. Everyone takes age into account when calculating caloric intake, but the difference is not enough to make it an excuse of why you are not losing weight. It is really frustrating because I see so many people trying to use age as an excuse to explain their lack of weight loss. It is complete b*****it.0 -
DeguelloTex wrote: »The difference between my BMR at 18 and my BMR at 51 is 165 calories per day. Or about one fewer Snickers per day.
Exsqueeze me? A snickers is 164 calories? *ponders*0 -
DeguelloTex wrote: »The difference between my BMR at 18 and my BMR at 51 is 165 calories per day. Or about one fewer Snickers per day.
Yup, mine is 165 BMR & 220 TDEE,. Not a huge amount by any means but it's enough I choose to consider it.
You are missing the point of the above posters. Everyone takes age into account when calculating caloric intake, but the difference is not enough to make it an excuse of why you are not losing weight. It is really frustrating because I see so many people trying to use age as an excuse to explain their lack of weight loss. It is complete b*****it.
Perhaps you think I am missing the point because you have not read each of my post in this thread.
I am not using age or thyroid as an excuse, I point out that they are factors and you need to know the factors so you can adjust your calories to compensate for them.
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Okay fine. Your metabolism has slowed because you're 42. We concede. You still haven't explained why you want to "boost your metabolism" without exercise. Why no exercise?0
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DeguelloTex wrote: »The difference between my BMR at 18 and my BMR at 51 is 165 calories per day. Or about one fewer Snickers per day.
I could have an extra croissant or Cajun chicken kebab with the 215 more calories the TDEE gave me0 -
Ponder that I already wrote, "That was comparing BMR, not TDEE, so an apples-to-apples comparison would make the difference a little higher."DeguelloTex wrote: »The difference between my BMR at 18 and my BMR at 51 is 165 calories per day. Or about one fewer Snickers per day.
Exsqueeze me? A snickers is 164 calories? *ponders*
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Calculate your LBM and focus on the amount of calories you need to maintain this -400 Then focus on eating 45% fats and 45% proteins with no more than 50 carbs +/- a day. Also look up how leptin works. It gives you that saturated feeling and keeps you losing weight. But as you lose weight, your leptin levels will decrease by as much as 50% in a week and this keeps you from losing more fat. Look it up, and find out how you can increase those leptin levels (lots of stuff for sale for that)0
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stevenvdoesburg862 wrote: »Calculate your LBM and focus on the amount of calories you need to maintain this -400 Then focus on eating 45% fats and 45% proteins with no more than 50 carbs +/- a day. Also look up how leptin works. It gives you that saturated feeling and keeps you losing weight. But as you lose weight, your leptin levels will decrease by as much as 50% in a week and this keeps you from losing more fat. Look it up, and find out how you can increase those leptin levels (lots of stuff for sale for that)
Whatever you do, don't do this.0 -
I would, literally, rather die than eat like that.stevenvdoesburg862 wrote: »Calculate your LBM and focus on the amount of calories you need to maintain this -400 Then focus on eating 45% fats and 45% proteins with no more than 50 carbs +/- a day. Also look up how leptin works. It gives you that saturated feeling and keeps you losing weight. But as you lose weight, your leptin levels will decrease by as much as 50% in a week and this keeps you from losing more fat. Look it up, and find out how you can increase those leptin levels (lots of stuff for sale for that)
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Yes height does matter when giving a male advice when they want to go from 150 to 130. You could very well be encouraging them to become under weight depending on their height. And yes it was a male.
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/comment/32051139#Comment_32051139
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my "advise" was for the Op to educate himself on how CICO works, wether to lose, maintain or gain weight. the link I provided goes into detail on each. it is not my place to tell anybody they need to lose weight.
read for yourself.
http://www.acaloriecounter.com/diet/what-is-the-goal-of-your-diet-plan/0 -
*If* you actually have a metabolic disorder, your doctor can treat it with prescriptions. Outside of that, nothing legal (or advisable) other than exercise is going to work.0
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I exercise and diet and can't lose weight. I'm 42. I assume my age has something to do with it, but idk. I have low t4 but tsh is normal so dr won't put me on thyroid meds. Any suggestions to boost my metabolism?
nope age is not a factor..I am almost 43 and have lost 53lbs...calorie counting and exercise.
Your metabolism slows as you age.
God not this excuse again - move more, build muscle and you don't have a built-in excuse as you age .. which is based on population averages and really is not that significant a slow down (something like have to eat 100 calories less per day over 20 years IIRC .. might be wrong)
although a thyroid condition will make it more challenging the basic CICO principle remains
(47 - just lost 52 pounds over 8 months and am fitter and stronger than ever .. weigh your food OP, try progressive weight lifting)
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Every study I've seen attributes the bulk of age-related metabolism slow down to loss of lean body mass. The online calculators don't take that into account, so for those who are active, the decline is likely over-stated.
To the OP...we just closed another thread from someone claiming they did "everything right" and couldn't lose weight. Turned out they didn't even know how much they were eating because their food logging was catastrophically bad.
My suggestion is to open your diary first, before looking for more complicated answers.0 -
DeguelloTex wrote: »The difference between my BMR at 18 and my BMR at 51 is 165 calories per day. Or about one fewer Snickers per day.
Exsqueeze me? A snickers is 164 calories? *ponders*
Oh, please let it be true!
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stevenvdoesburg862 wrote: »Calculate your LBM and focus on the amount of calories you need to maintain this -400 Then focus on eating 45% fats and 45% proteins with no more than 50 carbs +/- a day. Also look up how leptin works. It gives you that saturated feeling and keeps you losing weight. But as you lose weight, your leptin levels will decrease by as much as 50% in a week and this keeps you from losing more fat. Look it up, and find out how you can increase those leptin levels (lots of stuff for sale for that)
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