Should you force yourself to drink more?
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Well it's your body. But if the answers here are not doing it for you, then I think you should have this conversation with your doctor and go with whatever s/he tells you.0
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ruggedshutter wrote: »So your a typical 19 year old that knows more than you think you really do. Don't believe the color chart, don't believe anything any one else tells you. By all means keep doing what you're doing and don't listen to any of the medical community's advice in regards to hydration...surely you know more than they do...
Bit rude. I've been asking genuine questions. No one has linked any papers or given examples of negative long-term consequences of not drinking large volumes.
And there's been conflicting opinions given. Especially since some say needing to drink so much is a myth.
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Asks a questions, gets answers. Doesn't like answers so argues the point with special snowflake anecdotal evidence.
I got conflicting answers actually. And no one gave any real evidence.
Plus it's hardly 'special snowflake anecdotal evidence' when we've evolved to rely on thirst for millions of years, as have many other species, to ensure adequate osmoregulation.0 -
noobletmcnugget wrote: »And there's been conflicting opinions given. Especially since some say needing to drink so much is a myth.
The two aren't mutually exclusive. I would be the first to tell you that no, you do not need to force feed yourself 8 glasses of water. I would also be the first to tell you that if your urine is darker than it should be, that you should drink a little more of something. Doesn't have to be plain water. Eat more watery fruit, whatever.
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so why would you ask the question in the first place if something is not niggling you
to be honest we can get away with treating our body like sh1t in our youth .. seriously it bounds and rebounds no matter what we put it through .. you should be looking at what you're laying down for your future self - the person you are going to be in 30 years or so
good musculature, good cardiovascular fitness, well-rounded nutrition, avoiding too much excess of stuff you know is bad for you (drugs / alcohol / loose women
) and yes hydrating properly
*falls on deaf ears*
I asked the question because I always see people harping on about how you need to drink X number of glasses of water a day, etc.
Haha loose men since I'm a straight female
Thanks for the reply. I hope to set up good habits for the rest of my life.
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Just let him get on with it he obviously doesnt need to be hydrated.0
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noobletmcnugget wrote: »are you dehydrated
check your pee ... if it's not light straw colour then drink more
But why does it need to be light straw coloured or paler? If it's darker it just means your kidney is concentrating it more by reabsorbing more water. There's nothing wrong with that. You therefore still get the water you need, just by not getting rid of as much instead of drinking more.
No, this is incorrect. Check with your doctor.
http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/dehydration/basics/complications/con-200300560 -
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Alcohol? 0
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Also from that very same Mayo article:In general, it's best to start hydrating the day before strenuous exercise. Producing lots of clear, dilute urine is a good indication that you're well hydrated.
So I don't know how much further you're going to get. If you don't move a lot and don't live somewhere warm or dry, then you probably don't need 8 glasses of water (whatever a glass consitutes) or x ounces per pound of bodyweight or whatever.
Just use the chart. Maybe you can get by on less water because of any other number of factors in your life.
Also, the answer is never "just make the kidneys work harder!"0 -
You're studying biology and you don't understand the importance of water and your body tissues/function?
Erm, okay.
Sufficient water is needed to sustain really important things like blood volume and pressure, and to carry nutrients to body tissue. It also flushes out your bladder and helps to prevent kidney infections as a result. Once you get a few bladder infections you'll realize how important that is. That's why you go by the color of your urine - if it's darker yellow, you're dehydrated and not getting enough.
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noobletmcnugget wrote: »
Ok so I googled how much a person should drink, and I went on the mayo clinic website and according to what I read it says that the recommended FLUID intake for a female is 9 cups(2.2 liters) a day and for male 13 cups (3 liters) a day. It doesn't have to be water just some form of fluid. Here's the link if you want to read it and the recommendation on how much is from the Institute of Medicine.
Some people just prefer water for the majority of their fluid intake while others do not.
http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/in-depth/water/art-20044256?pg=1
ETA: For me personally I feel more hydrated when I drink more water throughout the day, and again for me personally when my urine is lighter in color I feel better also, not so sluggish and I have noticed that I only feel like that when I do drink at least 8 glasses of water a day...but again that is just me, everyone is different just do what works for you.
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May I ask what the problem is in looking in the toilet bowl just to check
You may well not be dehydrated ..we get fluids from food and all drinks
The 8 glasses of water a day is bunkum but the pee colour isn't
You are probably absolutely fine
One last comment: you're 19... You should not be sedentary.. Move your butt more :bigsmile:
(And people think you're male because your avatar is)0 -
May I ask what the problem is in looking in the toilet bowl just to check
You may well not be dehydrated ..we get fluids from food and all drinks
The 8 glasses of water a day is bunkum but the pee colour isn't
You are probably absolutely fine
One last comment: you're 19... You should not be sedentary.. Move your butt more :bigsmile:
(And people think you're male because your avatar is)0 -
Wait.. are you asking what's wrong with being slightly dehydrated?
Urine color is an indication of hydration level. The more hydrated you are, the better your body can function. Your muscles need adequate hydration for repair. Your digestion needs adequate hydration to function properly. Your skin needs adequate hydration to maintain elasticity/repair/replacement. Your immune system requires you to to be adequately hydrated in order to function fully. Your cells, in general, require adequate hydration in order to function.
Just because you haven't get attributed any symptoms to your hydration level in 19 years does not mean that your body isn't suffering for it.0 -
Thanks for the replies guys! General consensus then is that the urine colour thing is right. Thanks for the links. I was just confused as to whether thirst was sufficient for ensuring adequate hydration. I always thought that it would've been.0
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You're studying biology and you don't understand the importance of water and your body tissues/function?
Erm, okay.
Sufficient water is needed to sustain really important things like blood volume and pressure, and to carry nutrients to body tissue. It also flushes out your bladder and helps to prevent kidney infections as a result. Once you get a few bladder infections you'll realize how important that is. That's why you go by the color of your urine - if it's darker yellow, you're dehydrated and not getting enough.
I'm not stupid. You don't have to be rude. I was just wondering whether thirst was sufficient in ensuring adequate hydration.0 -
I'm not stupid. You don't have to be rude. I was just wondering whether thirst was sufficient in ensuring adequate hydration.
Well, honestly, when you say things like this:
"If it's darker it just means your kidney is concentrating it more by reabsorbing more water. There's nothing wrong with that. You therefore still get the water you need, just by not getting rid of as much instead of drinking more..."
...It makes people wonder.
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The 8 glasses of water a day thing is mostly a myth. We get plenty of fluids from our food, and there's nothing magical about the number 8. Drink if you're thirsty.
cbc.ca/news/health/8-glasses-of-water-a-day-an-urban-myth-1.1196386
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I'm not stupid. You don't have to be rude. I was just wondering whether thirst was sufficient in ensuring adequate hydration.
Well, honestly, when you say things like this:
"If it's darker it just means your kidney is concentrating it more by reabsorbing more water. There's nothing wrong with that. You therefore still get the water you need, just by not getting rid of as much instead of drinking more..."
...It makes people wonder.
It's hardly ridiculous to think that reabsorbing more water using an organ that has evolved for that purpose isn't such a bad thing.0 -
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noobletmcnugget wrote: »so why would you ask the question in the first place if something is not niggling you
to be honest we can get away with treating our body like sh1t in our youth .. seriously it bounds and rebounds no matter what we put it through .. you should be looking at what you're laying down for your future self - the person you are going to be in 30 years or so
good musculature, good cardiovascular fitness, well-rounded nutrition, avoiding too much excess of stuff you know is bad for you (drugs / alcohol / loose women) and yes hydrating properly
*falls on deaf ears*
I asked the question because I always see people harping on about how you need to drink X number of glasses of water a day, etc.
Haha loose men since I'm a straight female
Thanks for the reply. I hope to set up good habits for the rest of my life.
you don't need to drink X amount of water per day...those are just guidelines, not hard and fast rules. Hydration is important though...I will leave it to you to actually do your own research on that..it's pretty well established...not really a controversial topic or anything...
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What the hell is the point of coming in to ask a question if every single answer someone gives yoh, you have the rebuttal to it with what you think is the "correct" answer. Seriously, it makes no sense. If you know the answers to it all what are you looking to hear? Are you waiting for someone to say don't worry you're doing great?
Hey man, you're doing great. Keep doing what you're doing.
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noobletmcnugget wrote: »
I'm not stupid. You don't have to be rude. I was just wondering whether thirst was sufficient in ensuring adequate hydration.
Well, honestly, when you say things like this:
"If it's darker it just means your kidney is concentrating it more by reabsorbing more water. There's nothing wrong with that. You therefore still get the water you need, just by not getting rid of as much instead of drinking more..."
...It makes people wonder.
It's hardly ridiculous to think that reabsorbing more water using an organ that has evolved for that purpose isn't such a bad thing.
I'm not sure you really understand how kidneys work.
http://kidney.niddk.nih.gov/kudiseases/pubs/yourkidneys/0 -
noobletmcnugget wrote: »You're studying biology and you don't understand the importance of water and your body tissues/function?
Erm, okay.
Sufficient water is needed to sustain really important things like blood volume and pressure, and to carry nutrients to body tissue. It also flushes out your bladder and helps to prevent kidney infections as a result. Once you get a few bladder infections you'll realize how important that is. That's why you go by the color of your urine - if it's darker yellow, you're dehydrated and not getting enough.
I'm not stupid. You don't have to be rude. I was just wondering whether thirst was sufficient in ensuring adequate hydration.
Yet you think being dehydrated on any level is ok...'cuz kidneys....
This isn't exactly a controversial subject...hydration is important...you don't need X glasses of water specifically, but hydration is important.0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »noobletmcnugget wrote: »
I'm not stupid. You don't have to be rude. I was just wondering whether thirst was sufficient in ensuring adequate hydration.
Well, honestly, when you say things like this:
"If it's darker it just means your kidney is concentrating it more by reabsorbing more water. There's nothing wrong with that. You therefore still get the water you need, just by not getting rid of as much instead of drinking more..."
...It makes people wonder.
It's hardly ridiculous to think that reabsorbing more water using an organ that has evolved for that purpose isn't such a bad thing.
I'm not sure you really understand how kidneys work.
http://kidney.niddk.nih.gov/kudiseases/pubs/yourkidneys/
What part of that did I contradict?
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I was just asking whether concentrated urine was just a byproduct of your kidneys acting to prevent dehydration...0
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