Should you force yourself to drink more?
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PREEEEEAACH!ruggedshutter wrote: »So your a typical 19 year old that knows more than you think you really do. Don't believe the color chart, don't believe anything any one else tells you. By all means keep doing what you're doing and don't listen to any of the medical community's advice in regards to hydration...surely you know more than they do...
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noobletmcnugget wrote: »I was just asking whether concentrated urine was just a byproduct of your kidneys acting to prevent dehydration...
No it's a sign that your body is dehydrated0 -
I only drink water I don't drink soda or crystal light or any of that stuff I really love water I down like 8 or 9 bottles of water a day or more
Just suck it up drink up you need more than what you are drinking..0 -
Don't you have horrible hard dry poo?!0
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If you don't feel like drinking don't. You can get enough water just by eating things that have water like vegetables, soups, fruit..etc. I believe if you really are dehydrated you would be thirsty, that's just how the body works. If your skin snaps back fast when you pinch it, you aren't thirsty, you don't feel tired or sleepy without a reason...etc your water intake is likely fine.0
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noobletmcnugget wrote: »
I know. But judging from your high quality response you know it's a valid statement.
That I go to a rubbish university and am lectured by idiots?
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noobletmcnugget wrote: »neanderthin wrote: »
On average might be more applicable, does that work for you?noobletmcnugget wrote: »are you dehydrated
check your pee ... if it's not light straw colour then drink more
But why does it need to be light straw coloured or paler? If it's darker it just means your kidney is concentrating it more by reabsorbing more water. There's nothing wrong with that. You therefore still get the water you need, just by not getting rid of as much instead of drinking more.
Still doesn't explain it...
That's an easy one to answer. Your body needs to get rid of toxic waste and extra salts, vitamins...etc. Kidneys are one way of doing that, and the kind of waste they extract happens to be water soluble, so it needs water to be able to remove these substances from the body. When you are dehydrated, the body tries to conserve water but also needs to eliminate waste, so it uses a smaller amount of it. Pee is darker then because the concentration of these substances is high. When pee is too dark, you know that your body is trying to conserve water because it does not have enough of it. The body is not trying to "get rid" of the water, it's trying to get rid of waste, but happens to need water to do it. Even in extreme dehydration situations people still pee but very infrequently and in very small amounts. In that case the pee is very dark and has a very strong smell.0 -
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I never thought I was dehydrated because I was never thirsty. Went to my MD for a physical and the urinalysis showed I was significantly dehydrated (even though I didn't feel like I was). I am no longer dehydRated, nor do I feel any different with the extra fluid (I rarely drink plain water), but blood work and urinalysis results have improved.
You asked a question and people answered. Why ask if you think you are right and will just refute what everyone says?0 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »noobletmcnugget wrote: »neanderthin wrote: »
On average might be more applicable, does that work for you?noobletmcnugget wrote: »are you dehydrated
check your pee ... if it's not light straw colour then drink more
But why does it need to be light straw coloured or paler? If it's darker it just means your kidney is concentrating it more by reabsorbing more water. There's nothing wrong with that. You therefore still get the water you need, just by not getting rid of as much instead of drinking more.
Still doesn't explain it...
That's an easy one to answer. Your body needs to get rid of toxic waste and extra salts, vitamins...etc. Kidneys are one way of doing that, and the kind of waste they extract happens to be water soluble, so it needs water to be able to remove these substances from the body. When you are dehydrated, the body tries to conserve water but also needs to eliminate waste, so it uses a smaller amount of it. Pee is darker then because the concentration of these substances is high. When pee is too dark, you know that your body is trying to conserve water because it does not have enough of it. The body is not trying to "get rid" of the water, it's trying to get rid of waste, but happens to need water to do it. Even in extreme dehydration situations people still pee but very infrequently and in very small amounts. In that case the pee is very dark and has a very strong smell.
Cheers
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noobletmcnugget wrote: »so why would you ask the question in the first place if something is not niggling you
to be honest we can get away with treating our body like sh1t in our youth .. seriously it bounds and rebounds no matter what we put it through .. you should be looking at what you're laying down for your future self - the person you are going to be in 30 years or so
good musculature, good cardiovascular fitness, well-rounded nutrition, avoiding too much excess of stuff you know is bad for you (drugs / alcohol / loose women
) and yes hydrating properly
*falls on deaf ears*
I asked the question because I always see people harping on about how you need to drink X number of glasses of water a day, etc.
Haha loose men since I'm a straight female
Thanks for the reply. I hope to set up good habits for the rest of my life.
If that's the case then just start increasing your water intake gradually. You are only 19. No sense waiting until you are 30 with dry skin, brittle nails, and a sluggish digestive system. Also no sense waiting for some scientific "proof" that you should drink more water. The more you drink it the better you will feel and your body will thank you.0 -
I still don't think it was a stupid question. To control water balance you either control your water input or output. I just wanted to know whether to avoid relying on decreasing output.
Thanks to everyone who replied and weren't insulting. I appreciate it. 0 -
noobletmcnugget wrote: »I still don't think it was a stupid question. To control water balance you either control your water input or output. I just wanted to know whether to avoid relying on decreasing output.
Thanks to everyone who replied and weren't insulting. I appreciate it.
I get what you mean. The body has defense mechanisms in place against dehydration, but would you want to send it into panic mode pulling moisture out of your skin, eyes, digestive system and so on just to be able to run its functions with enough efficiency to stay alive when you could supply it with enough to run properly? It can be done by gradually increasing your intake, and if you don't like water you could try different drinks, or soup, or more vegetables and fruits such as cucumber. So many ways to get well hydrated, and you can figure out a strategy that works for you.0 -
noobletmcnugget wrote: »I still don't think it was a stupid question. To control water balance you either control your water input or output. I just wanted to know whether to avoid relying on decreasing output.
Thanks to everyone who replied and weren't insulting. I appreciate it.
why would you want to put your body through that kind of stress? You won't be 19 forever...you're still basically a child...these things catch up to you at some point.0 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »noobletmcnugget wrote: »I still don't think it was a stupid question. To control water balance you either control your water input or output. I just wanted to know whether to avoid relying on decreasing output.
Thanks to everyone who replied and weren't insulting. I appreciate it.
why would you want to put your body through that kind of stress? You won't be 19 forever...you're still basically a child...these things catch up to you at some point.
Even though the OP will probably take offense to that, I do agree. Of course, all 3 of my kids absolutely knew it ALL at that age! Now that they are in their early-to-mid 20's they can already see how completely clueless they were. I imagine OP will start drinking more water if/when she has health problems or matures a bit.0 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »noobletmcnugget wrote: »I still don't think it was a stupid question. To control water balance you either control your water input or output. I just wanted to know whether to avoid relying on decreasing output.
Thanks to everyone who replied and weren't insulting. I appreciate it.
why would you want to put your body through that kind of stress? You won't be 19 forever...you're still basically a child...these things catch up to you at some point.
Even though the OP will probably take offense to that, I do agree. Of course, all 3 of my kids absolutely knew it ALL at that age! Now that they are in their early-to-mid 20's they can already see how completely clueless they were. I imagine OP will start drinking more water if/when she has health problems or matures a bit.
I don't doubt that I'll change as I get older.
But I also think it's a little immature to make assumptions about someone you don't know.
And I wasn't trying to refute anyone. I was trying to discuss what I was misunderstanding. There's a difference.0 -
Even though the OP will probably take offense to that, I do agree. Of course, all 3 of my kids absolutely knew it ALL at that age! Now that they are in their early-to-mid 20's they can already see how completely clueless they were. I imagine OP will start drinking more water if/when she has health problems or matures a bit.
Or when she gets a few bladder infections that turn nasty and the doc tells her it's because she's dehydrated and doesn't drink enough water.
It's almost funny how we think we're immortal when we're that age. And then reality smacks us in the head with a brick.
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What about all that jargon you read saying you MUST drink lots of water to lose weight. ..
Some people say water fills them up, and some folks confuse thirst with hunger?? Both of which do not apply to me.
I can't think of any other reasons why it would help...0 -
Okay if that's the actual question then the answer is no. Concentrated urine is not an indication that the kidneys are trying to prevent dehydration. Concentrated urine is one of the first signs of dehydration. Again, the color of urine is the first thing that a physician looks at if dehydration is suspected. There's no ifs, ands, or buts about it. I agree with the poster who encouraged you to speak to your physician. You know your body better than any of us so I think that's a good place to start.noobletmcnugget wrote: »I was just asking whether concentrated urine was just a byproduct of your kidneys acting to prevent dehydration...
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I drink a lot of water (about 3 L a day) but only because it makes keeps me awake at work. LOL. But I found this study interesting:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/14671205/0 -
christinev297 wrote: »What about all that jargon you read saying you MUST drink lots of water to lose weight. ..
Some people say water fills them up, and some folks confuse thirst with hunger?? Both of which do not apply to me.
I can't think of any other reasons why it would help...
This probably won't go over well but I think some people cling to the water myth because it's something they can easily accomplish. I ate too much today and didn't exercise but I got all my water in!0 -
christinev297 wrote: »What about all that jargon you read saying you MUST drink lots of water to lose weight. ..
Some people say water fills them up, and some folks confuse thirst with hunger?? Both of which do not apply to me.
I can't think of any other reasons why it would help...
This probably won't go over well but I think some people cling to the water myth because it's something they can easily accomplish. I ate too much today and didn't exercise but I got all my water in!
Yeah wouldn't surprise me! I naturally drink around 2L of water a day, not because of any magical weight loss claims, because that's what I've always done.
I was curious where and why this "drink half your body weight in ounces" etc etc originated from.0 -
Liftng4Lis wrote: »Drink if you're thirsty.
This. Some days I can't seem to get enough water no how much I drink, and some days I just don't feel as thirsty0 -
noobletmcnugget wrote: »I don't really understand why everyone is recommended to drink such large volumes of water.
It's just one of those dieting myths...I doubt we can even figure out where it originally came from.Surely after 19 years my body is pretty good at telling me how much I need and when?
Yes, it is.
But dark pee is no good - it means bad things are concentrated at not-good levels inside your body. Which usually also comes with decreasing blood volume and other potentially nasty side effects.
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christinev297 wrote: »christinev297 wrote: »What about all that jargon you read saying you MUST drink lots of water to lose weight. ..
Some people say water fills them up, and some folks confuse thirst with hunger?? Both of which do not apply to me.
I can't think of any other reasons why it would help...
This probably won't go over well but I think some people cling to the water myth because it's something they can easily accomplish. I ate too much today and didn't exercise but I got all my water in!
Yeah wouldn't surprise me! I naturally drink around 2L of water a day, not because of any magical weight loss claims, because that's what I've always done.
I was curious where and why this "drink half your body weight in ounces" etc etc originated from.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/you-dont-need-8-glasses-of-water-a-day/
That's the closest I have found to an answer.
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christinev297 wrote: »christinev297 wrote: »What about all that jargon you read saying you MUST drink lots of water to lose weight. ..
Some people say water fills them up, and some folks confuse thirst with hunger?? Both of which do not apply to me.
I can't think of any other reasons why it would help...
This probably won't go over well but I think some people cling to the water myth because it's something they can easily accomplish. I ate too much today and didn't exercise but I got all my water in!
Yeah wouldn't surprise me! I naturally drink around 2L of water a day, not because of any magical weight loss claims, because that's what I've always done.
I was curious where and why this "drink half your body weight in ounces" etc etc originated from.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/you-dont-need-8-glasses-of-water-a-day/
That's the closest I have found to an answer.
Thanks
That pretty much answered everything.
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MarciBkonTrk wrote: »
Okay if that's the actual question then the answer is no. Concentrated urine is not an indication that the kidneys are trying to prevent dehydration. Concentrated urine is one of the first signs of dehydration. Again, the color of urine is the first thing that a physician looks at if dehydration is suspected. There's no ifs, ands, or buts about it. I agree with the poster who encouraged you to speak to your physician. You know your body better than any of us so I think that's a good place to start.noobletmcnugget wrote: »I was just asking whether concentrated urine was just a byproduct of your kidneys acting to prevent dehydration...
I definitely agree that it's a symptom of dehydration.
But surely that doesn't mean it's not a result of the kidneys conserving water to prevent dehydration too?
When you're dehydrated, osmoreceptors detect increased extracellular fluid osmotic pressure, increasing ADH relese which increases water reabsorption from the kidney, concentrating your urine.
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