Gluten: The Facts and the Fad
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They are not *my* expectations the general expectations of debate in general.
At any rate - I will stop feeding the
It is an alt account. They claim to be a doctor, yet spend way too much time on the internet for a real doctor. They'll eventually rage quit then come back with a new account with "food" or "paleo" in their screen name
I figured....it's a shame one can't block another ...
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AAAAAAAAH this guyThey are not *my* expectations the general expectations of debate in general.
At any rate - I will stop feeding the
It is an alt account. They claim to be a doctor, yet spend way too much time on the internet for a real doctor. They'll eventually rage quit then come back with a new account with "food" or "paleo" in their screen name
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RealFoodisGood wrote: »You have actual doctors trolling your site? that's ironic on so many levels. You guys really seem to look over your shoulder alot.... then you tell people with "food addictions" to get help as if they are the crazy ones. Too funny.
Anyways, as much fun as you guys are, I have to jet, so I grabbed a few abstracts from 2015 because you asked so nicely (aka, others who aren't jerks but who are reading may actually benefit). No time to delve into the full stash of articles, but here are some abstracts from 2015 for you which you will of course "debunk" because they don't tell you what you want to hear.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25701700
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25734566
Well, I would tell anyone with any kind of addiction to get help.0 -
RealFoodisGood wrote: »You have actual doctors trolling your site? that's ironic on so many levels. You guys really seem to look over your shoulder alot.... then you tell people with "food addictions" to get help as if they are the crazy ones. Too funny.
Anyways, as much fun as you guys are, I have to jet, so I grabbed a few abstracts from 2015 because you asked so nicely (aka, others who aren't jerks but who are reading may actually benefit). No time to delve into the full stash of articles, but here are some abstracts from 2015 for you which you will of course "debunk" because they don't tell you what you want to hear.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25701700
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25734566
About that first study
http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2015/03/is-noneliac-gluten-sensitivity-legit.html
"So, "gluten is bad for you"!? Is it really that simple?
No, not really. Some outcomes left out of the abstract and overlooked by many people include, for example, the fact that 22 participants (37%) experienced worse symptoms with the placebo than the gluten. Moreover, 31 participants (52%) rated their symptoms for both the placebo and gluten relatively equally. In fact, only 3 persons met the criteria for true NCGS by having a symptomology score of greater than 100 when the placebo score was subtracted from the gluten score."0 -
RealFoodisGood wrote: »RealFoodisGood wrote: »RealFoodisGood wrote: »
I was fully prepared to agree with you, until I actually took the time to read the cartoon right to the end. I encourage you to go back and read it in its entirety, it's actually very accurate.RealFoodisGood wrote: »
Glad to hear that cartoons are now considered fact. And up to date.
Makes life on university students and medical professionals easier. Because now they don't have to actually read medical journals. How cumbersome that is!
Thank god that I, along with everyone around me that I care about, do not buy in to the garbage that is that cartoon.
And thank god I keep my journal subscriptions current and don't stop reading them once I have found a few studies that tell me only what I wanted to hear.
Read it in its entirety. Sorry. Disagree.
Strong support for your disagreement/calling it garbage, oh wait you provided none
I provide for those I care about. That doesn't include you. Do your own homework.
If you are going to engage in a discussion and make certain declarations, it is generally expected that those making those declarations provide source material for their conclusions.
It is up to the bearer of the opinion to prove said opinion correct.
1. I don't care about your expectations.
2. Look stuff up yourself. It's your health. Not mine.
Come on guys this is obvious trolling. Don't feed. I love the people that give opinions and then their facts are "I don't care what others think" "I don't have to prove myself but I still want to spout crap" Glad you don't care cause nobody's listening to you, you are actually making people believe the opposite of what you are saying which is probably what you want because you are a troll so thanks for supporting this post.
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RealFoodisGood wrote: »You have actual doctors trolling your site? that's ironic on so many levels. You guys really seem to look over your shoulder alot.... then you tell people with "food addictions" to get help as if they are the crazy ones. Too funny.
Anyways, as much fun as you guys are, I have to jet, so I grabbed a few abstracts from 2015 because you asked so nicely (aka, others who aren't jerks but who are reading may actually benefit). No time to delve into the full stash of articles, but here are some abstracts from 2015 for you which you will of course "debunk" because they don't tell you what you want to hear.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25701700
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25734566
From your first link
"If we look at the distribution of delta overall scores (gluten minus placebo), it is not surprising to note that a fair number of patients are victims of the nocebo effect
"It does not represent crucial evidence in favor of the existence of this new syndrome"
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RealFoodisGood wrote: »You have actual doctors trolling your site? that's ironic on so many levels. You guys really seem to look over your shoulder alot.... then you tell people with "food addictions" to get help as if they are the crazy ones. Too funny.
Anyways, as much fun as you guys are, I have to jet, so I grabbed a few abstracts from 2015 because you asked so nicely (aka, others who aren't jerks but who are reading may actually benefit). No time to delve into the full stash of articles, but here are some abstracts from 2015 for you which you will of course "debunk" because they don't tell you what you want to hear.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25701700
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25734566
About that first study
http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2015/03/is-noneliac-gluten-sensitivity-legit.html
"So, "gluten is bad for you"!? Is it really that simple?
No, not really. Some outcomes left out of the abstract and overlooked by many people include, for example, the fact that 22 participants (37%) experienced worse symptoms with the placebo than the gluten. Moreover, 31 participants (52%) rated their symptoms for both the placebo and gluten relatively equally. In fact, only 3 persons met the criteria for true NCGS by having a symptomology score of greater than 100 when the placebo score was subtracted from the gluten score."
Why is it that anytime someone links a study trying to prove their point, the study inevitably proves the opposite?
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RealFoodisGood wrote: »You have actual doctors trolling your site? that's ironic on so many levels. You guys really seem to look over your shoulder alot.... then you tell people with "food addictions" to get help as if they are the crazy ones. Too funny.
Anyways, as much fun as you guys are, I have to jet, so I grabbed a few abstracts from 2015 because you asked so nicely (aka, others who aren't jerks but who are reading may actually benefit). No time to delve into the full stash of articles, but here are some abstracts from 2015 for you which you will of course "debunk" because they don't tell you what you want to hear.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25701700
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25734566
About that first study
http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2015/03/is-noneliac-gluten-sensitivity-legit.html
"So, "gluten is bad for you"!? Is it really that simple?
No, not really. Some outcomes left out of the abstract and overlooked by many people include, for example, the fact that 22 participants (37%) experienced worse symptoms with the placebo than the gluten. Moreover, 31 participants (52%) rated their symptoms for both the placebo and gluten relatively equally. In fact, only 3 persons met the criteria for true NCGS by having a symptomology score of greater than 100 when the placebo score was subtracted from the gluten score."
Why is it that anytime someone links a study trying to prove their point, the study inevitably proves the opposite?
Because they are an abstract warrior0 -
Or the person saying everyone is wrong "doesn't have the time" to answer as to why.RealFoodisGood wrote: »You have actual doctors trolling your site? that's ironic on so many levels. You guys really seem to look over your shoulder alot.... then you tell people with "food addictions" to get help as if they are the crazy ones. Too funny.
Anyways, as much fun as you guys are, I have to jet, so I grabbed a few abstracts from 2015 because you asked so nicely (aka, others who aren't jerks but who are reading may actually benefit). No time to delve into the full stash of articles, but here are some abstracts from 2015 for you which you will of course "debunk" because they don't tell you what you want to hear.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25701700
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25734566
About that first study
http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2015/03/is-noneliac-gluten-sensitivity-legit.html
"So, "gluten is bad for you"!? Is it really that simple?
No, not really. Some outcomes left out of the abstract and overlooked by many people include, for example, the fact that 22 participants (37%) experienced worse symptoms with the placebo than the gluten. Moreover, 31 participants (52%) rated their symptoms for both the placebo and gluten relatively equally. In fact, only 3 persons met the criteria for true NCGS by having a symptomology score of greater than 100 when the placebo score was subtracted from the gluten score."
Why is it that anytime someone links a study trying to prove their point, the study inevitably proves the opposite?
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RealFoodisGood wrote: »You have actual doctors trolling your site? that's ironic on so many levels. You guys really seem to look over your shoulder alot.... then you tell people with "food addictions" to get help as if they are the crazy ones. Too funny.
Anyways, as much fun as you guys are, I have to jet, so I grabbed a few abstracts from 2015 because you asked so nicely (aka, others who aren't jerks but who are reading may actually benefit). No time to delve into the full stash of articles, but here are some abstracts from 2015 for you which you will of course "debunk" because they don't tell you what you want to hear.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25701700
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25734566
About that first study
http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2015/03/is-noneliac-gluten-sensitivity-legit.html
"So, "gluten is bad for you"!? Is it really that simple?
No, not really. Some outcomes left out of the abstract and overlooked by many people include, for example, the fact that 22 participants (37%) experienced worse symptoms with the placebo than the gluten. Moreover, 31 participants (52%) rated their symptoms for both the placebo and gluten relatively equally. In fact, only 3 persons met the criteria for true NCGS by having a symptomology score of greater than 100 when the placebo score was subtracted from the gluten score."
Why is it that anytime someone links a study trying to prove their point, the study inevitably proves the opposite?
Because they haven't attended the Derek Zoolander School for Kids Who Can't Read Good and Want to Do Other Stuff Good Too™.0 -
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RealFoodisGood wrote: »You have actual doctors trolling your site? that's ironic on so many levels. You guys really seem to look over your shoulder alot.... then you tell people with "food addictions" to get help as if they are the crazy ones. Too funny.
Anyways, as much fun as you guys are, I have to jet, so I grabbed a few abstracts from 2015 because you asked so nicely (aka, others who aren't jerks but who are reading may actually benefit). No time to delve into the full stash of articles, but here are some abstracts from 2015 for you which you will of course "debunk" because they don't tell you what you want to hear.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25701700
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25734566
How to get out of a discussion you are going to lose in 7 easy steps
1. Downgrade others knowledge by comparing them to experts( even though they might themselves be or hey you can self learn)
2. Tell them you gotta go.
3. leave them with your "proof" that you are not sure will stand up to a debate but it's all you could find.
4. Tell them they won't believe you anyway because they don't want to, not because of lack of facts.
5. Leave before having to get into possible grown up debate
6. Make sure you hang in background to read others replies (don't let them know)
7. (optional) come back later after all has died down to try and get the last post.0 -
emmydoodles83 wrote: »RealFoodisGood wrote: »You have actual doctors trolling your site? that's ironic on so many levels. You guys really seem to look over your shoulder alot.... then you tell people with "food addictions" to get help as if they are the crazy ones. Too funny.
Anyways, as much fun as you guys are, I have to jet, so I grabbed a few abstracts from 2015 because you asked so nicely (aka, others who aren't jerks but who are reading may actually benefit). No time to delve into the full stash of articles, but here are some abstracts from 2015 for you which you will of course "debunk" because they don't tell you what you want to hear.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25701700
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25734566
How to get out of a discussion you are going to lose in 7 easy steps
1. Downgrade others knowledge by comparing them to experts( even though they might themselves be or hey you can self learn)
2. Tell them you gotta go.
3. leave them with your "proof" that you are not sure will stand up to a debate but it's all you could find.
4. Tell them they won't believe you anyway because they don't want to, not because of lack of facts.
5. Leave before having to get into possible grown up debate
6. Make sure you hang in background to read others replies (don't let them know)
7. (optional) come back later after all has died down to try and get the last post.
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emmydoodles83 wrote: »RealFoodisGood wrote: »You have actual doctors trolling your site? that's ironic on so many levels. You guys really seem to look over your shoulder alot.... then you tell people with "food addictions" to get help as if they are the crazy ones. Too funny.
Anyways, as much fun as you guys are, I have to jet, so I grabbed a few abstracts from 2015 because you asked so nicely (aka, others who aren't jerks but who are reading may actually benefit). No time to delve into the full stash of articles, but here are some abstracts from 2015 for you which you will of course "debunk" because they don't tell you what you want to hear.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25701700
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25734566
How to get out of a discussion you are going to lose in 7 easy steps
1. Downgrade others knowledge by comparing them to experts( even though they might themselves be or hey you can self learn)
2. Tell them you gotta go.
3. leave them with your "proof" that you are not sure will stand up to a debate but it's all you could find.
4. Tell them they won't believe you anyway because they don't want to, not because of lack of facts.
5. Leave before having to get into possible grown up debate
6. Make sure you hang in background to read others replies (don't let them know)
7. (optional) come back later after all has died down to try and get the last post.
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emmydoodles83 wrote: »RealFoodisGood wrote: »You have actual doctors trolling your site? that's ironic on so many levels. You guys really seem to look over your shoulder alot.... then you tell people with "food addictions" to get help as if they are the crazy ones. Too funny.
Anyways, as much fun as you guys are, I have to jet, so I grabbed a few abstracts from 2015 because you asked so nicely (aka, others who aren't jerks but who are reading may actually benefit). No time to delve into the full stash of articles, but here are some abstracts from 2015 for you which you will of course "debunk" because they don't tell you what you want to hear.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25701700
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25734566
How to get out of a discussion you are going to lose in 7 easy steps
1. Downgrade others knowledge by comparing them to experts( even though they might themselves be or hey you can self learn)
2. Tell them you gotta go.
3. leave them with your "proof" that you are not sure will stand up to a debate but it's all you could find.
4. Tell them they won't believe you anyway because they don't want to, not because of lack of facts.
5. Leave before having to get into possible grown up debate
6. Make sure you hang in background to read others replies (don't let them know)
7. (optional) come back later after all has died down to try and get the last post.
This is awesome
You win a prize... I think a Mini Reese's Peanut Butter Cup.
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emmydoodles83 wrote: »RealFoodisGood wrote: »You have actual doctors trolling your site? that's ironic on so many levels. You guys really seem to look over your shoulder alot.... then you tell people with "food addictions" to get help as if they are the crazy ones. Too funny.
Anyways, as much fun as you guys are, I have to jet, so I grabbed a few abstracts from 2015 because you asked so nicely (aka, others who aren't jerks but who are reading may actually benefit). No time to delve into the full stash of articles, but here are some abstracts from 2015 for you which you will of course "debunk" because they don't tell you what you want to hear.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25701700
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25734566
How to get out of a discussion you are going to lose in 7 easy steps
1. Downgrade others knowledge by comparing them to experts( even though they might themselves be or hey you can self learn)
2. Tell them you gotta go.
3. leave them with your "proof" that you are not sure will stand up to a debate but it's all you could find.
4. Tell them they won't believe you anyway because they don't want to, not because of lack of facts.
5. Leave before having to get into possible grown up debate
6. Make sure you hang in background to read others replies (don't let them know)
7. (optional) come back later after all has died down to try and get the last post.
This is awesome
You win a prize... I think a Mini Reese's Peanut Butter Cup.
Yum I can def fit that into my calorie budget.
It's funny because I see people do that all the time and it's like there is a pattern to it, it's like the cliche response now. The other thing I noticed is they are usually always under 100 posts. I think this last guy only had 62 posts. Not that that means anything in particular just another similarity I noticed. Just watch next time, you'll see the steps in action lol.
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There always is ONE in the crowd who has to be the idiot.
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mamapeach910 wrote: »even my "gluten sensitive" brother hates gluten free food....he says it's crap. Even most of the homemade stuff I did up for him...just not the same.
Not sure why someone who doesn't have to eat like that would....bleck.
BTW Gluten free flour reeks to the high heaven it's disgusting.
I don't eat most of the substitutes any more either. I was diagnosed 18 years ago and have given up on the sub par quality of them.
They really are just not the same.
There are a few worth having. Glutino pretzels are good, Trader Joe's Gluten Free Jo-Jo's are excellent (my husband says they're better than the gluten version), but overall?
A big meh.
@mamapeach910 I feel bad and tried to cook for him hoping if it was homemade it would make a difference.
Apparently the Banana bread wasn't bad but the cookies were sub par.
He has basically given up too...and eats his food and sometimes gives in and splurges on something with gluten and pays....for days. But he says it's worth it.
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mamapeach910 wrote: »even my "gluten sensitive" brother hates gluten free food....he says it's crap. Even most of the homemade stuff I did up for him...just not the same.
Not sure why someone who doesn't have to eat like that would....bleck.
BTW Gluten free flour reeks to the high heaven it's disgusting.
I don't eat most of the substitutes any more either. I was diagnosed 18 years ago and have given up on the sub par quality of them.
They really are just not the same.
There are a few worth having. Glutino pretzels are good, Trader Joe's Gluten Free Jo-Jo's are excellent (my husband says they're better than the gluten version), but overall?
A big meh.
@mamapeach910 I feel bad and tried to cook for him hoping if it was homemade it would make a difference.
Apparently the Banana bread wasn't bad but the cookies were sub par.
He has basically given up too...and eats his food and sometimes gives in and splurges on something with gluten and pays....for days. But he says it's worth it.
If the zombie apocalypse ever happened? I'd totally get a pizza. Gluten free pizza just isn't the same.
What I did was discover a whole world out there of naturally gluten free food.
For a few years, our family's traditional Christmas meal was paella!
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Udi's basil and pepperoni pizza is pretty darned good.mamapeach910 wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »even my "gluten sensitive" brother hates gluten free food....he says it's crap. Even most of the homemade stuff I did up for him...just not the same.
Not sure why someone who doesn't have to eat like that would....bleck.
BTW Gluten free flour reeks to the high heaven it's disgusting.
I don't eat most of the substitutes any more either. I was diagnosed 18 years ago and have given up on the sub par quality of them.
They really are just not the same.
There are a few worth having. Glutino pretzels are good, Trader Joe's Gluten Free Jo-Jo's are excellent (my husband says they're better than the gluten version), but overall?
A big meh.
@mamapeach910 I feel bad and tried to cook for him hoping if it was homemade it would make a difference.
Apparently the Banana bread wasn't bad but the cookies were sub par.
He has basically given up too...and eats his food and sometimes gives in and splurges on something with gluten and pays....for days. But he says it's worth it.
If the zombie apocalypse ever happened? I'd totally get a pizza. Gluten free pizza just isn't the same.
What I did was discover a whole world out there of naturally gluten free food.
For a few years, our family's traditional Christmas meal was paella!
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Udi's basil and pepperoni pizza is pretty darned good.mamapeach910 wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »even my "gluten sensitive" brother hates gluten free food....he says it's crap. Even most of the homemade stuff I did up for him...just not the same.
Not sure why someone who doesn't have to eat like that would....bleck.
BTW Gluten free flour reeks to the high heaven it's disgusting.
I don't eat most of the substitutes any more either. I was diagnosed 18 years ago and have given up on the sub par quality of them.
They really are just not the same.
There are a few worth having. Glutino pretzels are good, Trader Joe's Gluten Free Jo-Jo's are excellent (my husband says they're better than the gluten version), but overall?
A big meh.
@mamapeach910 I feel bad and tried to cook for him hoping if it was homemade it would make a difference.
Apparently the Banana bread wasn't bad but the cookies were sub par.
He has basically given up too...and eats his food and sometimes gives in and splurges on something with gluten and pays....for days. But he says it's worth it.
If the zombie apocalypse ever happened? I'd totally get a pizza. Gluten free pizza just isn't the same.
What I did was discover a whole world out there of naturally gluten free food.
For a few years, our family's traditional Christmas meal was paella!
The sauce just will never marry with the crust properly on a gluten free pizza. It's just not the same. For me.
It's like... I like Udi's bread just fine for toast, especially if I'm feeling poorly and want dry toast. But if I want toast to dip in a poached egg? Gluten free bread just doesn't absorb things the way that gluten bread does. I don't even bother any more, it's not worth the calorie hit for me.
Bear in mind that I've been living with celiac disease for 18 years now. I've had my share of the substitutes over the years. I'm older now, and I'm short. I have a small calorie budget. I only spend my calories on stuff I really love.
There might come a time where I get the taste for pizza and decide it's worth it. I'll give the Udi's a try if that day comes. Thanks.
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Do you get Kinnikinick near you? Their bread, pizza crusts, bagels, waffles, everything, are deliciousmamapeach910 wrote: »
Udi's basil and pepperoni pizza is pretty darned good.mamapeach910 wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »even my "gluten sensitive" brother hates gluten free food....he says it's crap. Even most of the homemade stuff I did up for him...just not the same.
Not sure why someone who doesn't have to eat like that would....bleck.
BTW Gluten free flour reeks to the high heaven it's disgusting.
I don't eat most of the substitutes any more either. I was diagnosed 18 years ago and have given up on the sub par quality of them.
They really are just not the same.
There are a few worth having. Glutino pretzels are good, Trader Joe's Gluten Free Jo-Jo's are excellent (my husband says they're better than the gluten version), but overall?
A big meh.
@mamapeach910 I feel bad and tried to cook for him hoping if it was homemade it would make a difference.
Apparently the Banana bread wasn't bad but the cookies were sub par.
He has basically given up too...and eats his food and sometimes gives in and splurges on something with gluten and pays....for days. But he says it's worth it.
If the zombie apocalypse ever happened? I'd totally get a pizza. Gluten free pizza just isn't the same.
What I did was discover a whole world out there of naturally gluten free food.
For a few years, our family's traditional Christmas meal was paella!
The sauce just will never marry with the crust properly on a gluten free pizza. It's just not the same. For me.
It's like... I like Udi's bread just fine for toast, especially if I'm feeling poorly and want dry toast. But if I want toast to dip in a poached egg? Gluten free bread just doesn't absorb things the way that gluten bread does. I don't even bother any more, it's not worth the calorie hit for me.
Bear in mind that I've been living with celiac disease for 18 years now. I've had my share of the substitutes over the years. I'm older now, and I'm short. I have a small calorie budget. I only spend my calories on stuff I really love.
There might come a time where I get the taste for pizza and decide it's worth it. I'll give the Udi's a try if that day comes. Thanks.
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Do you get Kinnikinick near you? Their bread, pizza crusts, bagels, waffles, everything, are deliciousmamapeach910 wrote: »
Udi's basil and pepperoni pizza is pretty darned good.mamapeach910 wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »even my "gluten sensitive" brother hates gluten free food....he says it's crap. Even most of the homemade stuff I did up for him...just not the same.
Not sure why someone who doesn't have to eat like that would....bleck.
BTW Gluten free flour reeks to the high heaven it's disgusting.
I don't eat most of the substitutes any more either. I was diagnosed 18 years ago and have given up on the sub par quality of them.
They really are just not the same.
There are a few worth having. Glutino pretzels are good, Trader Joe's Gluten Free Jo-Jo's are excellent (my husband says they're better than the gluten version), but overall?
A big meh.
@mamapeach910 I feel bad and tried to cook for him hoping if it was homemade it would make a difference.
Apparently the Banana bread wasn't bad but the cookies were sub par.
He has basically given up too...and eats his food and sometimes gives in and splurges on something with gluten and pays....for days. But he says it's worth it.
If the zombie apocalypse ever happened? I'd totally get a pizza. Gluten free pizza just isn't the same.
What I did was discover a whole world out there of naturally gluten free food.
For a few years, our family's traditional Christmas meal was paella!
The sauce just will never marry with the crust properly on a gluten free pizza. It's just not the same. For me.
It's like... I like Udi's bread just fine for toast, especially if I'm feeling poorly and want dry toast. But if I want toast to dip in a poached egg? Gluten free bread just doesn't absorb things the way that gluten bread does. I don't even bother any more, it's not worth the calorie hit for me.
Bear in mind that I've been living with celiac disease for 18 years now. I've had my share of the substitutes over the years. I'm older now, and I'm short. I have a small calorie budget. I only spend my calories on stuff I really love.
There might come a time where I get the taste for pizza and decide it's worth it. I'll give the Udi's a try if that day comes. Thanks.
I think I've seen their stuff in Wegmans and possibly Whole Foods. I don't think that either of them carry a lot of it, though.
I hardly ever go into either of those stores, but I might have to make a trip and look more closely to see what they have.
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Do it! Worth it for the pizza crusts alonemamapeach910 wrote: »
Do you get Kinnikinick near you? Their bread, pizza crusts, bagels, waffles, everything, are deliciousmamapeach910 wrote: »
Udi's basil and pepperoni pizza is pretty darned good.mamapeach910 wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »even my "gluten sensitive" brother hates gluten free food....he says it's crap. Even most of the homemade stuff I did up for him...just not the same.
Not sure why someone who doesn't have to eat like that would....bleck.
BTW Gluten free flour reeks to the high heaven it's disgusting.
I don't eat most of the substitutes any more either. I was diagnosed 18 years ago and have given up on the sub par quality of them.
They really are just not the same.
There are a few worth having. Glutino pretzels are good, Trader Joe's Gluten Free Jo-Jo's are excellent (my husband says they're better than the gluten version), but overall?
A big meh.
@mamapeach910 I feel bad and tried to cook for him hoping if it was homemade it would make a difference.
Apparently the Banana bread wasn't bad but the cookies were sub par.
He has basically given up too...and eats his food and sometimes gives in and splurges on something with gluten and pays....for days. But he says it's worth it.
If the zombie apocalypse ever happened? I'd totally get a pizza. Gluten free pizza just isn't the same.
What I did was discover a whole world out there of naturally gluten free food.
For a few years, our family's traditional Christmas meal was paella!
The sauce just will never marry with the crust properly on a gluten free pizza. It's just not the same. For me.
It's like... I like Udi's bread just fine for toast, especially if I'm feeling poorly and want dry toast. But if I want toast to dip in a poached egg? Gluten free bread just doesn't absorb things the way that gluten bread does. I don't even bother any more, it's not worth the calorie hit for me.
Bear in mind that I've been living with celiac disease for 18 years now. I've had my share of the substitutes over the years. I'm older now, and I'm short. I have a small calorie budget. I only spend my calories on stuff I really love.
There might come a time where I get the taste for pizza and decide it's worth it. I'll give the Udi's a try if that day comes. Thanks.
I think I've seen their stuff in Wegmans and possibly Whole Foods. I don't think that either of them carry a lot of it, though.
I hardly ever go into either of those stores, but I might have to make a trip and look more closely to see what they have.
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RealFoodisGood wrote: »You have actual doctors trolling your site? that's ironic on so many levels. You guys really seem to look over your shoulder alot.... then you tell people with "food addictions" to get help as if they are the crazy ones. Too funny.
Anyways, as much fun as you guys are, I have to jet, so I grabbed a few abstracts from 2015 because you asked so nicely (aka, others who aren't jerks but who are reading may actually benefit). No time to delve into the full stash of articles, but here are some abstracts from 2015 for you which you will of course "debunk" because they don't tell you what you want to hear.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25701700
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25734566
About that first study
http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2015/03/is-noneliac-gluten-sensitivity-legit.html
"So, "gluten is bad for you"!? Is it really that simple?
No, not really. Some outcomes left out of the abstract and overlooked by many people include, for example, the fact that 22 participants (37%) experienced worse symptoms with the placebo than the gluten. Moreover, 31 participants (52%) rated their symptoms for both the placebo and gluten relatively equally. In fact, only 3 persons met the criteria for true NCGS by having a symptomology score of greater than 100 when the placebo score was subtracted from the gluten score."
Why is it that anytime someone links a study trying to prove their point, the study inevitably proves the opposite?
Because SCIENCE!!!! It does make me laugh inside though....
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emmydoodles83 wrote: »RealFoodisGood wrote: »You have actual doctors trolling your site? that's ironic on so many levels. You guys really seem to look over your shoulder alot.... then you tell people with "food addictions" to get help as if they are the crazy ones. Too funny.
Anyways, as much fun as you guys are, I have to jet, so I grabbed a few abstracts from 2015 because you asked so nicely (aka, others who aren't jerks but who are reading may actually benefit). No time to delve into the full stash of articles, but here are some abstracts from 2015 for you which you will of course "debunk" because they don't tell you what you want to hear.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25701700
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25734566
How to get out of a discussion you are going to lose in 7 easy steps
1. Downgrade others knowledge by comparing them to experts( even though they might themselves be or hey you can self learn)
2. Tell them you gotta go.
3. leave them with your "proof" that you are not sure will stand up to a debate but it's all you could find.
4. Tell them they won't believe you anyway because they don't want to, not because of lack of facts.
5. Leave before having to get into possible grown up debate
6. Make sure you hang in background to read others replies (don't let them know)
7. (optional) come back later after all has died down to try and get the last post.
This is awesome
You win a prize... I think a Mini Reese's Peanut Butter Cup.
Weak sauce.
For that post: Big Cup.0
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