Dr. Oz is full of it too

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  • crazyjerseygirl
    crazyjerseygirl Posts: 1,252 Member
    3bambi3 wrote: »
    Also this is why we need to give the FDA power over supplements. "Natural" companies scared voters off back in the...90s? By suggesting that the govt would take away your vitamins

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IV2olDA0w8U

    Ahh yes. The FDA. Protecting us from *kitten* that don't work.

    I can't see videos at work, but I really hope this is the commercial with Mel Gibson about the government storming his house in the dead of night to take his vitamins.

    Oh it is. It is.
  • crazyjerseygirl
    crazyjerseygirl Posts: 1,252 Member
    grandma107 wrote: »
    Dr. Phil is NOT like Jerry Springer......
    Dr. Phil helps people with treatment etc. Jerry Springer is just an embarrassment. Blessings.

    Dr. Phil. Pushed "weight loss" products. What's that have to do with psychology? Don't know. But he settled a lawsuit based on them.

    Jerry Springer is a lawyer/failed politician turned tv host. He pushes trashy shows but doesn't try to hawk things beyond his area of expertise. He knows that he in entertainment.

    Jerry Springer > Dr. Phil
  • HeySwoleSister
    HeySwoleSister Posts: 1,938 Member
    grandma107 wrote: »
    Dr. Phil is NOT like Jerry Springer......
    Dr. Phil helps people with treatment etc. Jerry Springer is just an embarrassment. Blessings.

    Dr. Phil. Pushed "weight loss" products. What's that have to do with psychology? Don't know. But he settled a lawsuit based on them.

    Jerry Springer is a lawyer/failed politician turned tv host. He pushes trashy shows but doesn't try to hawk things beyond his area of expertise. He knows that he in entertainment.

    Jerry Springer > Dr. Phil

    Have you seen Springer interviewed? I was surprised at how likeable he actually is, considering how trashy his show comes off. He kind of laughs and shrugs and says it's a sideshow and the "guests" are often the ones who suggest the over-the-top scripted confrontations.

    Also, even if you wouldn't want to copy him, you've got to love a guy whose political career ended because he hired a prostitute...and paid her with a personal check! And, then, after the fact was like, "what? It's not like the check bounced!"
  • ncboiler89
    ncboiler89 Posts: 2,408 Member
    Springer doesn't take himself or his show seriously. That makes him likable.
  • mccindy72
    mccindy72 Posts: 7,001 Member
    That letter has finally hit the media - I saw it on the Today show this morning. Hopefully (fingers crossed) he will lose his job.
    It's unbelievable to me that a highly acclaimed cardiac surgeon would sell out to the extent that Dr. Oz has done. Do you know how much they make? It's certainly not as if he needed the damned money. When he started as an occasional guest on Oprah's show, he actually covered important topics such as the damage smoking does to the lungs, and drinking to the liver. Now he's such a sellout I can't believe even the gullible buy into the BS.
  • mccindy72
    mccindy72 Posts: 7,001 Member
    side note: Dr. Phil selling weight loss: don't you think he'd have lost some weight himself if the stuff he was promoting worked? Sheesh. And he's not even a licensed doctor of anything.
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    LBuehrle8 wrote: »
    grandma107 wrote: »
    Dr. Phil is NOT like Jerry Springer......
    Dr. Phil helps people with treatment etc. Jerry Springer is just an embarrassment. Blessings.

    All TV shows are incredibly scripted. And fake.

    I agree with this, especially the reality shows.
  • diannethegeek
    diannethegeek Posts: 14,776 Member
    I keep thinking that everyone knows this. But no, every day someone else tries to use "But... Dr. Oz" to back up some claim or other. Just adding my two cents to bump the thread so more people see it.
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    While Doc McStuffins explores rare diseases, like Filthy Icky Sticky Disease and Pipe-a-cloggity-crackity-tentacle-osis, that don’t have much published data, she never makes a claim directly contradicted by the literature.

    Dr. Oz, on the other hand, frequently makes overreaching claims about dubious treatments, in spite of published data refuting his claims.”
  • mccindy72
    mccindy72 Posts: 7,001 Member
    I keep thinking that everyone knows this. But no, every day someone else tries to use "But... Dr. Oz" to back up some claim or other. Just adding my two cents to bump the thread so more people see it.

    Not to mention the weekly Rasberry Ketones threads....
  • LovelyIvy466
    LovelyIvy466 Posts: 387 Member
    We'll see. I used to work for CU, and a lot of variables go into a position like that:

    - Visibility
    - Ability to draw in new patients/ high income patients on the strength of your name
    - Possibility that you will donate at a high level to the capital campaign
    - Probability that when raising funds you will have access to other high net worth individuals, and play an active role in soliciting them for the capital campaign

    It remains to be seen whether or not a petition of this nature will be toxic enough that his popularity lowers and has a real effect on the reasons he has his position.
  • jvt63
    jvt63 Posts: 89 Member
    Looking for shortcuts is human. What's amazing is that he got away with it for so long. I mean, what made the suddenly pen the letter now? Could it be because Food Babe is on the rack at the moment?
  • mccindy72
    mccindy72 Posts: 7,001 Member
    We'll see. I used to work for CU, and a lot of variables go into a position like that:

    - Visibility
    - Ability to draw in new patients/ high income patients on the strength of your name
    - Possibility that you will donate at a high level to the capital campaign
    - Probability that when raising funds you will have access to other high net worth individuals, and play an active role in soliciting them for the capital campaign

    It remains to be seen whether or not a petition of this nature will be toxic enough that his popularity lowers and has a real effect on the reasons he has his position.

    Having worked in the medical field myself, I'm fairly sure it would be easy to prove legally that he's violated several laws that doctors are obligated to follow.
  • ncboiler89
    ncboiler89 Posts: 2,408 Member
    NPR All Things Considered just reported on it.

    There is a slightly greater than zero probability that he will lose his position at Columbia.
  • 81Katz
    81Katz Posts: 7,074 Member
    His reaction ...
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  • crazyjerseygirl
    crazyjerseygirl Posts: 1,252 Member
    jvt63 wrote: »
    Looking for shortcuts is human. What's amazing is that he got away with it for so long. I mean, what made the suddenly pen the letter now? Could it be because Food Babe is on the rack at the moment?

    There as been a long standing feeling among scientists (and probably doctors too) that fighting psudoscience isn't worth the time. I think in the past few years there's been more if a movement to fight this stuff head on.
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  • Larissa_NY
    Larissa_NY Posts: 495 Member
    Dr. Oz doesn't have an opera about him. Jerry Springer does. End discussion.
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  • F00LofaT00K
    F00LofaT00K Posts: 688 Member
    This pleases me.
  • MarciBkonTrk
    MarciBkonTrk Posts: 310 Member
    We'll see. I used to work for CU, and a lot of variables go into a position like that:

    - Visibility
    - Ability to draw in new patients/ high income patients on the strength of your name
    - Possibility that you will donate at a high level to the capital campaign
    - Probability that when raising funds you will have access to other high net worth individuals, and play an active role in soliciting them for the capital campaign

    It remains to be seen whether or not a petition of this nature will be toxic enough that his popularity lowers and has a real effect on the reasons he has his position.

    It won't effect his popularity at all but in the medical community, his credibility will be significantly compromised. If fools want to follow his false claims we can't stop them but he will be a laughing stock to the medical community which will eventually compromise his reputation in the lay community because he will have no colleagues to back him up.
  • LAWoman72
    LAWoman72 Posts: 2,846 Member
    edited April 2015
    jvt63 wrote: »
    Looking for shortcuts is human. What's amazing is that he got away with it for so long. I mean, what made the suddenly pen the letter now? Could it be because Food Babe is on the rack at the moment?

    I'm surprised that anyone could show sudden shock and/or dismay and/or disappointment when it comes to Dr. Oz. I have never been able to figure out why people follow him. I always thought he was a buffoon and a showman and was actually shocked to discover (years ago now) that he was an ACTUAL doctor. I though the "Dr." part of his name was just a cutesy show name. Like Dr. Feelgood or Captain America or The General Car Insurance or the Dog Whisperer or something. I couldn't believe it when I found out that, no, actually, he is a real, bona fide doctor, who at some time in the distant past probably did care about properly treating actual, live patients.

    THAT was my only shock where it came to Dr. Oz.

  • cdcruizer05
    cdcruizer05 Posts: 1,006 Member
    Gooooooood
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