your wish has been granted (you can now opt to not add back exercise calories to your goals)
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I don't have it
I have noticed that the app has changed slightly though, the 'calories remaining' part at the top of main screen. 0 -
azulvioleta6 wrote: »
On the Website. Home -> Goals (second menu option from the left).
This does not, however do anything in as far as adding or not adding exercise calories to your daily goal. The calorie number here is a guess on MFP's part that is purely a function of how many days and workout times you enter as a fitness goal. I have had my fitness goal set at 90 minutes and 7 days it show like 3800 odd calories for the week but does not add a single one of those to my daily calorie intake goal.
The food intake stuff is stiff definitely NEAT Method and expects to add exercise calories based on your logging.
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Assuming this is actually happening (since OP is still the only one who seems to have access to this feature), I'm not sure I like it. I understand people who use the TDEE method may want to log their exercise without calories being added back in. But there are already ways to do that - for example, many people on my friends list just log 1 calorie burned for 30 minutes of running or whatever.
The problem I have with this is that all the newbies on MFP are already confused enough about exercise calories. This is just going to add another layer of confusion that is going to cause some people to eat way too little. A lot of new people come on here all gung-ho about getting fit, so they'll start eating 1200 calories a day plus going to the gym for 2 hours a day - if they don't eat back those calories, that's extremely unhealthy. Allowing people to opt out sends the wrong message in my opinion.0 -
Maybe not everyone uses the app the way you do. If I put in a manual calorie goal based on TDEE, what wrong message is being sent if I could exclude exercise from modifying my calories for the day?A lot of new people come on here all gung-ho about getting fit, so they'll start eating 1200 calories a day plus going to the gym for 2 hours a day - if they don't eat back those calories, that's extremely unhealthy. Allowing people to opt out sends the wrong message in my opinion.
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IDeguelloTex wrote: »
Maybe not everyone uses the app the way you do. If I put in a manual calorie goal based on TDEE, what wrong message is being sent if I could exclude exercise from modifying my calories for the day?A lot of new people come on here all gung-ho about getting fit, so they'll start eating 1200 calories a day plus going to the gym for 2 hours a day - if they don't eat back those calories, that's extremely unhealthy. Allowing people to opt out sends the wrong message in my opinion.
I'm not sure if you read my whole post. I specifically said that I know of people who use the TDEE method and how this could be helpful for those people. I used to use that method myself.
My concern, however, was for the VAST majority of new people who are not sure how this site works, who already are confused if they should eat exercise calories back or not. You need only to surf the boards for a few minutes to see that. Many of them also start off by under-eating and over-exercising, thinking that's the only way to lose weight. The boards show that pretty clearly as well (a million "I'm eating 1200 calories and going to the gym for 1-2 hours each day but I'm not losing very fast!" posts).
My concern was for those people. Not experienced site users who do TDEE. Experienced users also usually know that they can just log 1 or even 0 calories while still logging their exercise, if they choose.0 -
Many of them also start off by under-eating and over-exercising, thinking that's the only way to lose weight. The boards show that pretty clearly as well (a million "I'm eating 1200 calories and going to the gym for 1-2 hours each day but I'm not losing very fast!" posts).
But that makes no sense. If they're truly over-exercising and under-eating, they'd be shedding weight like crazy and therefore not making "I'm not losing very fast!" posts.
The two most likely reasons they're "not losing very fast" are incorrect food logging and eating back over-estimated exercise burns - the purported change would help reduce the latter.
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callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »so.... in case you haven't noticed... you can now opt to NOT add back your exercise calories automatically into your goals (and... other things too - go look around in the goals section)
i like to eat them so it makes no difference to ME but i see a lot of people who dont want them added to their calories for the day.... now, you have that option.
If I don't want exercise calories added in, I will log the exercise but just add 1 calorie. I do this for weight lifting.0 -
callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »so.... in case you haven't noticed... you can now opt to NOT add back your exercise calories automatically into your goals (and... other things too - go look around in the goals section)
i like to eat them so it makes no difference to ME but i see a lot of people who dont want them added to their calories for the day.... now, you have that option.
Are you sure your not just looking at the exercise a one perhaps thought it was new? Where you can set it to zero? I think perhaps you got confused.0 -
Assuming this is actually happening (since OP is still the only one who seems to have access to this feature), I'm not sure I like it. I understand people who use the TDEE method may want to log their exercise without calories being added back in. But there are already ways to do that - for example, many people on my friends list just log 1 calorie burned for 30 minutes of running or whatever.
The problem I have with this is that all the newbies on MFP are already confused enough about exercise calories. This is just going to add another layer of confusion that is going to cause some people to eat way too little. A lot of new people come on here all gung-ho about getting fit, so they'll start eating 1200 calories a day plus going to the gym for 2 hours a day - if they don't eat back those calories, that's extremely unhealthy. Allowing people to opt out sends the wrong message in my opinion.
They already don't eat those calories back so making the format more adaptable to different circumstances won't change that0 -
I found what OP is talking about. It is a new Premium feature. It is $7.99 a month of $49.99 a year. On the computer, the option is on the top of the My Home page.0
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Yeah, I read it all. That's how I got to the end and saw that you think it sends a "wrong message." Not exactly sure that that message is, let alone what's wrong with it. I guess you forgot to answer that part.IDeguelloTex wrote: »
Maybe not everyone uses the app the way you do. If I put in a manual calorie goal based on TDEE, what wrong message is being sent if I could exclude exercise from modifying my calories for the day?A lot of new people come on here all gung-ho about getting fit, so they'll start eating 1200 calories a day plus going to the gym for 2 hours a day - if they don't eat back those calories, that's extremely unhealthy. Allowing people to opt out sends the wrong message in my opinion.
I'm not sure if you read my whole post. I specifically said that I know of people who use the TDEE method and how this could be helpful for those people. I used to use that method myself.
My concern, however, was for the VAST majority of new people who are not sure how this site works, who already are confused if they should eat exercise calories back or not. You need only to surf the boards for a few minutes to see that. Many of them also start off by under-eating and over-exercising, thinking that's the only way to lose weight. The boards show that pretty clearly as well (a million "I'm eating 1200 calories and going to the gym for 1-2 hours each day but I'm not losing very fast!" posts).
My concern was for those people. Not experienced site users who do TDEE. Experienced users also usually know that they can just log 1 or even 0 calories while still logging their exercise, if they choose.
"...who already are confused if they should eat exercise calories back or not." Except that doing TDEE, rather than sending the "wrong message" utterly eliminates the question: exercise calories are already inherently included and not to be treated separately.
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