starvation mode

rocknlotsofrolls
rocknlotsofrolls Posts: 418 Member
edited November 16 in Health and Weight Loss
I'm not trying to vent, but I'm getting so tired of this "starvation mode" myth. I wish people would remember those commercials with the starving kids in Africa. Do they look fat? People chiming in on things they don't know to be true really irritates me.
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  • dietstokes
    dietstokes Posts: 216 Member
    Or how about anyone who is anorexic? Don't really see them suffering from "starvation mode" either.
  • SezxyStef
    SezxyStef Posts: 15,267 Member
    beating a dead horse..do you know how many times this exact post has been done...
  • itsjustdawn
    itsjustdawn Posts: 1,073 Member
    Starving kids in Africa never had any fat to lose, so there's never been anything for the body to store. Just my 2 cents on that comment.
  • AmyG1982
    AmyG1982 Posts: 1,040 Member
    http://authoritynutrition.com/starvation-mode/

    "This is a natural physiological response, and isn’t really controversial. It is well accepted by scientists, and the technical term for it is “adaptive thermogenesis”"
    "Starvation mode is real, but it’s not as powerful as some people think.

    It can make weight loss slow down over time, but it won’t cause someone to gain weight despite restricting calories."

    un-bunch your panties.
  • SconnieCat
    SconnieCat Posts: 770 Member
    I'm not trying to vent, but I'm getting so tired of this "starvation mode" myth. I wish people would remember those commercials with the starving kids in Africa. Do they look fat? People chiming in on things they don't know to be true really irritates me.

    Oh... oh this again. This is fun.


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  • Snow3y
    Snow3y Posts: 1,412 Member
    I think people that mention 'starvation mode' are regularly referring to metabolic damage... Just sayin
  • SezxyStef
    SezxyStef Posts: 15,267 Member
    AmyG1982 wrote: »
    http://authoritynutrition.com/starvation-mode/

    "This is a natural physiological response, and isn’t really controversial. It is well accepted by scientists, and the technical term for it is “adaptive thermogenesis”"
    "Starvation mode is real, but it’s not as powerful as some people think.

    It can make weight loss slow down over time, but it won’t cause someone to gain weight despite restricting calories."

    un-bunch your panties.

    The link you provided indicates adaptive thermogenesis is a natural response to "long term" calorie restriction...which is true...but "starvation mode" as talked about by laymen means "my body is holding onto fat after 1 week of "assumed calorie deficit"

    This is actually a better link for adaptive thermogenesis

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3673773/
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  • JSurita2
    JSurita2 Posts: 1,304 Member
    I'm not trying to vent, but I'm getting so tired of this "starvation mode" myth. I wish people would remember those commercials with the starving kids in Africa. Do they look fat? People chiming in on things they don't know to be true really irritates me.

    Sure sounds like venting.
  • BramageOMG
    BramageOMG Posts: 319 Member
    Hey, as long as there is an excuse for not making any progress: People will use it

  • AmyG1982
    AmyG1982 Posts: 1,040 Member
    SezxyStef wrote: »
    AmyG1982 wrote: »
    http://authoritynutrition.com/starvation-mode/

    "This is a natural physiological response, and isn’t really controversial. It is well accepted by scientists, and the technical term for it is “adaptive thermogenesis”"
    "Starvation mode is real, but it’s not as powerful as some people think.

    It can make weight loss slow down over time, but it won’t cause someone to gain weight despite restricting calories."

    un-bunch your panties.

    The link you provided indicates adaptive thermogenesis is a natural response to "long term" calorie restriction...which is true...but "starvation mode" as talked about by laymen means "my body is holding onto fat after 1 week of "assumed calorie deficit"

    This is actually a better link for adaptive thermogenesis

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3673773/

    Lol I didn't really think anyone thought you'd go into starvation mode after a week. my bad >_<
  • SezxyStef
    SezxyStef Posts: 15,267 Member
    AmyG1982 wrote: »
    SezxyStef wrote: »
    AmyG1982 wrote: »
    http://authoritynutrition.com/starvation-mode/

    "This is a natural physiological response, and isn’t really controversial. It is well accepted by scientists, and the technical term for it is “adaptive thermogenesis”"
    "Starvation mode is real, but it’s not as powerful as some people think.

    It can make weight loss slow down over time, but it won’t cause someone to gain weight despite restricting calories."

    un-bunch your panties.

    The link you provided indicates adaptive thermogenesis is a natural response to "long term" calorie restriction...which is true...but "starvation mode" as talked about by laymen means "my body is holding onto fat after 1 week of "assumed calorie deficit"

    This is actually a better link for adaptive thermogenesis

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3673773/

    Lol I didn't really think anyone thought you'd go into starvation mode after a week. my bad >_<

    I know right but you see it here all the time..."you're in starvation mode" when an op complains they've been dieting for a week or two and haven't lost anything....it's a "SMH" moment for sure.
  • scottacular
    scottacular Posts: 597 Member
    'Starvation mode activated'
  • 1shauna1
    1shauna1 Posts: 993 Member
    BFDeal wrote: »
    I'm not trying to vent, but I'm getting so tired of this "starvation mode" myth. I wish people would remember those commercials with the starving kids in Africa. Do they look fat? People chiming in on things they don't know to be true really irritates me.
    Those commercials that claim a cup of coffee costs 35 cents a day? What kind of crap drinking peasant do they think I am? I'm not drinking any coffee that's less than $4 a cup!!!!!

    HA! Yes, that would be one terrible cup of coffee!!
  • cookiealbright
    cookiealbright Posts: 605 Member
    I like when I eat 900 cal for the day because I know I'm gonna eat 2000 the next day & MFP tells me "You're not eating enough calories" Hello, I'm still chubby - not starving...I go by weekly average.
  • SezxyStef
    SezxyStef Posts: 15,267 Member
    1shauna1 wrote: »
    BFDeal wrote: »
    I'm not trying to vent, but I'm getting so tired of this "starvation mode" myth. I wish people would remember those commercials with the starving kids in Africa. Do they look fat? People chiming in on things they don't know to be true really irritates me.
    Those commercials that claim a cup of coffee costs 35 cents a day? What kind of crap drinking peasant do they think I am? I'm not drinking any coffee that's less than $4 a cup!!!!!

    HA! Yes, that would be one terrible cup of coffee!!

    I suspect that would be home brewed in a pot...

    1kg can of maxwell house=12$ Cdn, divide that by about 14 days...3 cups a day...

    yup that works out...

    but 4$ for a cup of coffee jeez...and I thought my tims @ 1.90 was expensive...
  • Jayceca
    Jayceca Posts: 16 Member
    I know and there is no way to change anyone's mind once they decide that it must be true because they saw it online. If they would just use common sense, they would realize how silly that is.You cannot gain weight if you are starving!!! There are all kinds of articles stating that the 'starvation mode' idea is a myth, if only people would think for themselves.

    My husband is not feeling well this week, so he didn't eat as much, he lost 3 lbs, (the rat). How come his body didn't go into starvation mode and gain weight?

    Also, did you know that the statement that you must drink 8 glasses of water a day did NOT come from studies at all, it came from the bottled water companies. They are making a fortune on that. You don't need to 'flush' out your system. It has managed to take care of itself since time began without everyone walking around with a bottle of water in their hand. When you are thirsty, your body will let you know. I am 77 years old, and when I was growing up, not once did I ever see anyone constantly drinking water and we all managed to survive quite well.

    I bet I'm going to get a lot of backlash on that one because, well, people BELIEVE what they think self appointed experts are telling them. Then everyone gets on the band wagon including the diet organizations.

    People, there has NEVER been a scientific study on water consumption. You are putting millions of dollars in the pockets of the bottled water companies!! If you are thirsty, drink tap water, it's just a good, if not better.
  • T1DCarnivoreRunner
    T1DCarnivoreRunner Posts: 11,502 Member
    I once thought I could accellerate weight loss by reducing calories further. After gaining weight progressively for 3 weeks, I read something that indicated if one consumes fewer calories than their RMR, they could gain weight. A quick calculation showed my new calorie level was below estimated RMR. So I returned to a higher calorie level (which was above RMR and below BMR) and began to lose again.

    I'm sure I'm going to get a lot of hate for sharing my experience, and some will call me a liar. I don't know the scientific reason behind why I started gaining when restricting calories further, but I will not do that again (at least not for more than a day or 2). It set me back and lost time.
  • beachhouse758
    beachhouse758 Posts: 371 Member
    BFDeal wrote: »
    I'm not trying to vent, but I'm getting so tired of this "starvation mode" myth. I wish people would remember those commercials with the starving kids in Africa. Do they look fat? People chiming in on things they don't know to be true really irritates me.
    Those commercials that claim a cup of coffee costs 35 cents a day? What kind of crap drinking peasant do they think I am? I'm not drinking any coffee that's less than $4 a cup!!!!!

    This sounds like something louis ck would say...
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  • sullus
    sullus Posts: 2,839 Member
    I think people that mention 'starvation mode' are regularly referring to metabolic damage... Just sayin

    People who know what they are talking about, sure. Most people on this site are of the "oh no, I ate under 1200 cals, I'm going into starvation mode and gaining weight" variety, though.
  • sullus
    sullus Posts: 2,839 Member
    1shauna1 wrote: »
    BFDeal wrote: »
    I'm not trying to vent, but I'm getting so tired of this "starvation mode" myth. I wish people would remember those commercials with the starving kids in Africa. Do they look fat? People chiming in on things they don't know to be true really irritates me.
    Those commercials that claim a cup of coffee costs 35 cents a day? What kind of crap drinking peasant do they think I am? I'm not drinking any coffee that's less than $4 a cup!!!!!

    HA! Yes, that would be one terrible cup of coffee!!

    You 2 are aware that coffee can be made at home, are you not? You can make a great cup of coffee for $0.35. At home.
  • jorinya
    jorinya Posts: 933 Member
    Starving mode, really. If you complaining you starving then eat please. No one is forcing you to diet. If you are not losing weight and complaining then find something better because there are plenty of diets out there.
    As for starving kids in Africa, there are obese children too. Oh btw my kids are half African and they are not starving.
    Please, not everything you see on the television you should believe. I am living in AFRICA!! In Nigeria to be precise. Yes there are people living in poverty, yes some live in huts but it is only in the villages. Not everyone lives in a hut here and not every child is starving. People in the villages are enjoying themselves better than us that live in the city. Food is fresher and organic there and it is also very cheap. Below is the different type of houses. Poorer ones included.

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  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    jorinya wrote: »
    Starving mode, really. If you complaining you starving then eat please. No one is forcing you to diet. If you are not losing weight and complaining then find something better because there are plenty of diets out there.
    As for starving kids in Africa, there are obese children too. Oh btw my kids are half African and they are not starving.
    Please, not everything you see on the television you should believe. I am living in AFRICA!! In Nigeria to be precise. Yes there are people living in poverty, yes some live in huts but it is only in the villages. Not everyone lives in a hut here and not every child is starving. People in the villages are enjoying themselves better than us that live in the city. Food is fresher and organic there and it is also very cheap. Below is the different type of houses. Poorer ones included.

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    Nobody, but nobody, claimed that every child in Africa is starving.
  • jenncornelsen
    jenncornelsen Posts: 969 Member
    jorinya wrote: »
    Starving mode, really. If you complaining you starving then eat please. No one is forcing you to diet. If you are not losing weight and complaining then find something better because there are plenty of diets out there.
    As for starving kids in Africa, there are obese children too. Oh btw my kids are half African and they are not starving.
    Please, not everything you see on the television you should believe. I am living in AFRICA!! In Nigeria to be precise. Yes there are people living in poverty, yes some live in huts but it is only in the villages. Not everyone lives in a hut here and not every child is starving. People in the villages are enjoying themselves better than us that live in the city. Food is fresher and organic there and it is also very cheap. Below is the different type of houses. Poorer ones included.

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    this is very informative.......but don't really think it's what she meant....
  • girlviernes
    girlviernes Posts: 2,402 Member
    I once thought I could accellerate weight loss by reducing calories further. After gaining weight progressively for 3 weeks, I read something that indicated if one consumes fewer calories than their RMR, they could gain weight. A quick calculation showed my new calorie level was below estimated RMR. So I returned to a higher calorie level (which was above RMR and below BMR) and began to lose again.

    I'm sure I'm going to get a lot of hate for sharing my experience, and some will call me a liar. I don't know the scientific reason behind why I started gaining when restricting calories further, but I will not do that again (at least not for more than a day or 2). It set me back and lost time.

    How much weight did you gain over those 3 weeks?
  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member
    jorinya wrote: »
    Starving mode, really. If you complaining you starving then eat please. No one is forcing you to diet. If you are not losing weight and complaining then find something better because there are plenty of diets out there.
    As for starving kids in Africa, there are obese children too. Oh btw my kids are half African and they are not starving.
    Please, not everything you see on the television you should believe. I am living in AFRICA!! In Nigeria to be precise. Yes there are people living in poverty, yes some live in huts but it is only in the villages. Not everyone lives in a hut here and not every child is starving. People in the villages are enjoying themselves better than us that live in the city. Food is fresher and organic there and it is also very cheap. Below is the different type of houses. Poorer ones included.

    f1dt1vbm711z.jpgeqis7clmj708.jpg
    yvgo67pfb87w.jpgkvacvbinitte.jpg

    Nigeria LOL The motherland. They have Prince there too.

  • T1DCarnivoreRunner
    T1DCarnivoreRunner Posts: 11,502 Member
    sullus wrote: »
    1shauna1 wrote: »
    BFDeal wrote: »
    I'm not trying to vent, but I'm getting so tired of this "starvation mode" myth. I wish people would remember those commercials with the starving kids in Africa. Do they look fat? People chiming in on things they don't know to be true really irritates me.
    Those commercials that claim a cup of coffee costs 35 cents a day? What kind of crap drinking peasant do they think I am? I'm not drinking any coffee that's less than $4 a cup!!!!!

    HA! Yes, that would be one terrible cup of coffee!!

    You 2 are aware that coffee can be made at home, are you not? You can make a great cup of coffee for $0.35. At home.

    Not likely. Even if I spent tons of money on all that fancy equipment and even if I was actually home often enough to use such equipment, I am hopeless when it comes to making anything great. I can make something that is edible, but not "great." Anyway, since I'm just 1 person and usually am drinking coffee on the road (so maybe 1-2 times per year would I use it), the equipment cost would take quite a while to pay for itself. Anyway, when I drink coffee, it is for caffeine and not for taste; so I suppose my point is irrelevant anyway. I'll spend $1-$2 for truck stop coffee.
  • girlviernes
    girlviernes Posts: 2,402 Member
    sullus wrote: »
    1shauna1 wrote: »
    BFDeal wrote: »
    I'm not trying to vent, but I'm getting so tired of this "starvation mode" myth. I wish people would remember those commercials with the starving kids in Africa. Do they look fat? People chiming in on things they don't know to be true really irritates me.
    Those commercials thbuat claim a cup of coffee costs 35 cents a day? What kind of crap drinking peasant do they think I am? I'm not drinking any coffee that's less than $4 a cup!!!!!

    HA! Yes, that would be one terrible cup of coffee!!

    You 2 are aware that coffee can be made at home, are you not? You can make a great cup of coffee for $0.35. At home.

    Not likely. Even if I spent tons of money on all that fancy equipment and even if I was actually home often enough to use such equipment, I am hopeless when it comes to making anything great. I can make something that is edible, but not "great." Anyway, since I'm just 1 person and usually am drinking coffee on the road (so maybe 1-2 times per year would I use it), the equipment cost would take quite a while to pay for itself. Anyway, when I drink coffee, it is for caffeine and not for taste; so I suppose my point is irrelevant anyway. I'll spend $1-$2 for truck stop coffee.

    I make a great cup of coffee with the aeropress. Easy peasy, and about 25 bucks.
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