Electronic Cigarettes
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That is a horrible birthday gift.0
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That's not really quitting. It's just another way of getting the drug into the body, albeit much less annoying to those around the person.0
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That is a horrible birthday gift.
this.
i get that your intentions are good, however, your efforts may annoy this friend. they'll quit when theyre good and ready.
buy them something they'll enjoy.0 -
Obviously not their only birthday gift but I think adding years on to their life is a great gift! And being best friends with a health professional I guess you should expect things like that. But thanks for your useless input. Have a great day.0
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When I was smoking my friends took my pack and smashed it on the ground and punched me in the stomach. True story.
I quit smoking, but not from them. Point is nothing you do can make them stop, only them wanting to commit to not smoking.
Start running, do c 25k, it makes the taste of smoking horrific right after a run.0 -
i just started with "Starbuzz" brand. these are disposable, $10 good for 500 puffs/~ 3pks, and they have a bunch of different 'flavors'.
'blueberry mist' was nice. 'pirate's cave' i'm told is very popular, and i can see why: it takes just like freakin Mountain Dew! it's my favorite so far. 'sex on the beach' is nice too but harsher on the throat for me so i don't think i'll be getting that one again.
since i started on these i have had no desire to smoke a cigarette. those things are nasty. these e-cigs give me the nicotine buzz to which i am still addicted enough to think i 'need' -- without the smelly clothes and cruddy lungs. i'm a fan.0 -
I guess I should have mentioned that they have been wanting one but couldn't afford it working as a server. I spend several hundred dollars on birthdays I assure you this will not be their only gift.0
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I spend several hundred dollars on birthdays I assure you this will not be their only gift.
just tryin to be helpful.
i'll be over here if anyone needs me.0 -
i just started with "Starbuzz" brand. these are disposable, $10 good for 500 puffs/~ 3pks, and they have a bunch of different 'flavors'.
'blueberry mist' was nice. 'pirate's cave' i'm told is very popular, and i can see why: it takes just like freakin Mountain Dew! it's my favorite so far. 'sex on the beach' is nice too but harsher on the throat for me so i don't think i'll be getting that one again.
since i started on these i have had no desire to smoke a cigarette. those things are nasty. these e-cigs give me the nicotine buzz to which i am still addicted enough to think i 'need' -- without the smelly clothes and cruddy lungs. i'm a fan.
Thank you! I appreciate your help and congrats on quitting.
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Obviously not their only birthday gift but I think adding years on to their life is a great gift! And being best friends with a health professional I guess you should expect things like that. But thanks for your useless input. Have a great day.
people who ask a question and then get agitated with the responses reminds me of people on Kitchen Nightmares or Super Nanny (or any other "rescue" show) who call someone for help, but want to fight with the person they called for help.0 -
That is a horrible birthday gift.That's not really quitting. It's just another way of getting the drug into the body, albeit much less annoying to those around the person.
That's a very nice, thoughful birthday gift, IMO.
Smoking is the WORST way to get your nicotine. Heart disease, emphysema, lung cancer, COPD, etc, etc, etc. These are not particularly nicotine problems - they are smoking problems.
"quit or die" is a stupid choice when there is a spectrum of lower harm choices that they can make. They can always go for completely abstaining from nicotine later - after they stop killing themselves and hurting the people around them with smoking.0 -
o, i haven't 'quit' yet. i still consider myself a 'smoker' because i am still feeding the nicotine habit. i'm just not gross about it anymore :blushing:
i think it's a brilliant idea you have for your friend, BUT ONLY if you are secure enough to face the possibility that your friend MAY take a look at it and sneer, or balk, or have some other kind of bad reaction (sometimes ppl don't like it when you have anything to say about their lifestyle choices, ANYTHING at all, pos or neg..) if u r prepared for that and won't let it ruin ur day IF it happens, then go for it.
i m just thinking like (for example) if i tried to give my (obese) mom some 'diet' food like "Here, try this, i think you'll like it and ITS BETTER FOR YOU" she might hear a little of "...it's better for you THAN THE HORRIBLE CHOICES YOU MAKE FOR YOURSELF, here let me make some better choices for you..." it really just depends on how well you know the person and how you think they'll take it.0 -
Hi there! I have a Joye 510 that helped me quit, they have starter kits for around $50 and they have rechargeable batteries and use flavored nicotine "juices" that you buy separately to drip inside. I like that all the parts are replaceable so it is relatively low cost to maintain/replace parts as needed (batteries and atomizers tend to wear out after awhile). I also like that it's relatively small and discrete, most people don't even notice it.
And yes I am still hooked on my ecig but it's been over a year since I had a cigarette and I am healthier than ever, saving lots of money and time and some icky health-related smoking symptoms have disappeared so for the person that doesn't count it as quitting...you really don't know what you are talking about, just sayin'..........0 -
Obviously not their only birthday gift but I think adding years on to their life is a great gift! And being best friends with a health professional I guess you should expect things like that. But thanks for your useless input. Have a great day.
How is it "obviously" not their only birthday gift? How were we supposed to know that...0 -
They're all pretty much the same design. It's the flavors that are very diverse. My fiance has a few of them. He got a bunch of different flavors. However, using E-cigs alone probably won't help your friend quit. He may need the E-cigs and something else like the patch or the lozenges or the gum. Right now, my fiance is on the lozenges. He still wants to smoke, but he's not as crazy as he is when he used the patches.0
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My Hubby is a long time smoker and wanted to try these as something to help him quit to soo it is a thoughtful gift! He tried the Blu brand, but it didn't really work. You can only puff on them so many times a day. That was the thing that was the hardest thing for him. In the end it didn't work for him.0
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she wont quit unless she wants to quit. It may drive a stake through your friendship if she thinks you are interfering. I wouldnt take that risk. She knows ecigs are out there, she knows there are the patches, gum, cold turkey, and other methods but if she hasnt taken the step to do it then she may not want to quit.0
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http://www.bloogplanet.com There you can get automatic batteries, and some cartomizers. Probably a good idea to just get a kit, that way everything they need is in there. It's a great product and I've been using them for 3 years, quit actual cigarettes June of 2010.
It is way better than ingesting all that tar and the other chemicals they throw in cigarettes.0 -
I quit smoking using an e-cig. For the uninformed, it's not different than the patch or gum or any other cessation device. If the individual is committed to using the e-cig rather than smoking a real cigarette, they work. I know 4 people, including myself who've tried numerous times and methods to quite and the e-cig is the only thing that's worked.
I've been smoke free since Sept. I used a Joytech 1000 Mah twist and vivi tanks for the juice. I personally loved this set up because I didn't want anything that actually looked or felt like a cigarette and the tank was great because I could just fill it up and it would last me most of the day and don't have to sit there dripping onto an atomizer.
It is important that your friend have a plan in place though...I started out at a very high nicotine content as I was a 2-3 PAD smoker. I did that for a couple months and then started going down to the next level every month or so until I got to zero. I still use mine occasionally...usually when I'm drinking or something, just as something to do with my hands, etc...but really, I hardly even think about it anymore. It took me about 5-6 months to get to zero nicotine.
Whatever people may think about them, they work well in helping you quit and worst case is harm reduction therapy essentially. I can tell you that after just a month on the e-cig with no cigarettes at all, I could breathe again...started running again, etc. You may be getting the nicotine, but you're not getting all of the tar and thousands of other chemicals that come with the cigarette. If your friend is really committed, they work wonders...and I had tried just about everything under the sun.0 -
Obviously not their only birthday gift but I think adding years on to their life is a great gift! And being best friends with a health professional I guess you should expect things like that. But thanks for your useless input. Have a great day.
people who ask a question and then get agitated with the responses reminds me of people on Kitchen Nightmares or Super Nanny (or any other "rescue" show) who call someone for help, but want to fight with the person they called for help.
Correct me if I am wrong but I asked if a simple question about which ecigs were best, not if it was going to be a suitable birthday gift for someone they have never met. Some of you all on here love to pick fights.0 -
That is a horrible birthday gift.That's not really quitting. It's just another way of getting the drug into the body, albeit much less annoying to those around the person.
That's a very nice, thoughful birthday gift, IMO.
Smoking is the WORST way to get your nicotine. Heart disease, emphysema, lung cancer, COPD, etc, etc, etc. These are not particularly nicotine problems - they are smoking problems.
"quit or die" is a stupid choice when there is a spectrum of lower harm choices that they can make. They can always go for completely abstaining from nicotine later - after they stop killing themselves and hurting the people around them with smoking.
buying this for a smoker would be the equivalent to buying a diet book, or a gym membership or something for someone overweight as a birthday gift. If someone bought that out of the blue for someone who showed no desire to change habits, that would probably be insulting.
however, since she added the information that her friend has been wanting one, that changes everything.0 -
That's not really quitting. It's just another way of getting the drug into the body, albeit much less annoying to those around the person.
Oh yes, they should just continue with real cigarettes with all the stuff that kills them instead of getting the stuff they crave in a way that isn't going to kill them (unless they choked on it) :noway: Your comment was annoying to those around you.
Although I do agree it's a lame birthday present if they have asked for it then they're clearly not going to be disappointed.
I have been tobacco free for near 2 months using VIP Cigarettes. Which I think are an American company who recently started selling here in the UK.
I'll come off it eventually but in the meantime at least I've stopped shortening my life and on my way to being completely addiction free.0 -
I can guarantee you that you will be wasting your money. People smoke for a variety of reasons, sometimes just because they enjoy it. They will NOT stop because someone else thinks they should. It's a similar premise to being here on MFP. Just because your loved one SHOULD doesn't mean they WILL. They will only do it when they are ready to do it.I am trying to get a friend to quit smoking so I was considering buying an electronic cigarette for their birthday. I have never been a smoker so I know absolutely nothing about this. Which ones out there are the best? Thank you!
And I didn't read all the responses, but DID see someone saying it was a bad idea just because it was still giving you the drug. Nicotine in and of itself in the small doses obtained in a vaporizer (e-cig) are not harmful. Cigarettes are EXTREMELY harmful as they have a ridiculous amount of chemicals added to them by the tobacco companies to make them even more addictive. Additionally, e-cigs are just water vapor, so there's also no "second-hand" from them. Educate yourself before making comments like that...
ETA: I just saw that the friend apparently wants one. V4L.com (Vapor 4 Life) has KR808D kits which are very easy for a beginner to use. They *do* look more like traditional cigarettes, but they are a simple two piece design. You have a rechargeable battery & a cartomizer (or a tank, which is my preference) and don't have to deal with dripping on an atomizer like with the 501s. Some people like to do the drip thing, and that's fine if it's your preference, but I know that a lot of people find the KR808s as a great beginner device.0 -
I don't know which would be the best one, but some make nicotine free inserts so the person gets the action of smoking without actually taking in the drugs...the nicotine itself is a drug just like caffeine in coffee, soda & chocolate...it is a very addicting drug ...if your friend is committed to quitting smoking, then I think this is a great gift. It will help them to get rid of the stink of an actual cigarette ... in addition, they will only be taking in the nicotine and not the carcinogens that a real cigarette contains. They can eventually wean to the nicotine free inserts if they choose.0
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Hey,
Not a smoker myself, but I have 5 friends and family members around me who were heavy smokers (up to a pack a day) who dead stopped smoking cigarettes the minute they started the e-cig. Sure you still bring the drug into you, but none of the 4000 others chemicals. I believe that is the main aspect of this. When talking about it they tell you stories of smelling toasted bread for the first time in years, your tastecoming back etc..
And this is a great gift, to give someone the means to get rid of this killing habit, especially if they mentioned they want one.
just my 2 cents.0 -
The people who are commenting negatively are obviously not smokers or in relationships with smokers.
My boyfriend quit smoking by buying an electronic cigarette. After using the e-cig for maybe 3 months he quit that, too. Personally I think it really works, because I've SEEN it work for him.
I think it's a good gift that your friend will appreciate.0 -
Obviously not their only birthday gift but I think adding years on to their life is a great gift! And being best friends with a health professional I guess you should expect things like that. But thanks for your useless input. Have a great day.
people who ask a question and then get agitated with the responses reminds me of people on Kitchen Nightmares or Super Nanny (or any other "rescue" show) who call someone for help, but want to fight with the person they called for help.
Correct me if I am wrong but I asked if a simple question about which ecigs were best, not if it was going to be a suitable birthday gift for someone they have never met. Some of you all on here love to pick fights.
My response is none are the best because that would be a horrible birthday gift in my opinion (which you asked for). :happy:0 -
Hi there! I have a Joye 510 that helped me quit, they have starter kits for around $50 and they have rechargeable batteries and use flavored nicotine "juices" that you buy separately to drip inside. I like that all the parts are replaceable so it is relatively low cost to maintain/replace parts as needed (batteries and atomizers tend to wear out after awhile). I also like that it's relatively small and discrete, most people don't even notice it.
And yes I am still hooked on my ecig but it's been over a year since I had a cigarette and I am healthier than ever, saving lots of money and time and some icky health-related smoking symptoms have disappeared so for the person that doesn't count it as quitting...you really don't know what you are talking about, just sayin'..........
^^^ This! I bought my stuff through www.supremenicotine.com, they have THE BEST juices. And they sell the JoyeTech products mentioned above (these happen to be some of the best in the industry). The only problem I can foresee is that you don't find the "right" juice. There are so many flavors. Some people like traditional tobacco flavors while other like candy, soda, fruit and dessert flavors. The key to success is finding the right flavor.
I quit smoking two years ago this month. I switched to e-cigs and NEVER looked back. I finally gave it up altogether this past February. I find that using an e-cig is an alternative way to get off cigarettes. I would highly recommend it to anyone who is looking to drop the nasty cigarette habit0 -
for a while before I quit, I used an palm vaporizer. I think you should just get your friend one of these.
hmm Have you thought about going non electric alternatives?
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I've been a smoker for more than twenty years. Just this past week I started on an e-cig. I enjoyed to smoke but have been wanting to quit and the taste that cigarettes left in my mouth was starting to bother me. I chose an apple flavored cartridge of an e-cig and I think this time it will help me quit and eventually I'll go off of the e-cig. For me it's more the habit of having something in my hand, especially if I have a drink or am driving in the car.
I would appreciate if someone gave me one of these for a birthday gift.0
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