Anyone else here love cheat day as much as me!!??
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asflatasapancake wrote: »I have cheat days and love them more than you. People have different opinions about cheat days. Whatever works for you.
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janejellyroll wrote: »You posted elsewhere you are following an hypertrophy program. A different program from the one you are psoting here about. The only thing in common is that both programs include more supplements than real food. All I can say is that if you need to eat like 20 different supplement per day to achieve your goals (which are conveniently sold by the site offering the program), something smells fishy. Not to mention that a 3000 calorie program where you need cheat days to eat a piece of chocolate sounds ... fascinating.
Following one food regime and a different one for workouts, not taking 20 different supplements or anything else that you're assuming, nothing smells fishy you're just assuming, thanks
So, you are just googling, picking up different things here and there, are trying to follow a bulking fitness plan, while having in your profile a weight loss goal. Then you choose a bodybuilding eating plan which relies on macro balance, you decouple it from the weight lifting plan, you are not replacing with food the nutrients that your eating plan expects you to take in supplements, so the macros are always off and and then adding cheat days, which mean that your whole eating plan is off anyway? Honestly, just save yourself a lot of trouble, and just make things simpler:
Pick a goal, decide if you are doing recomp, weight loss or bulking.
Figure the calories that go with your goal and then choose an exercise plan that supports your goal.
Then pick foods you like to get to your calories and close to your macros.
Simpler, and will actually work.
It does nto sound that cool when discussing it with other newbies in fitness forum, but I am assuming you are hoping for long term results not bragging to other people about your program, right?
Clearly not bulking, stop going on now just assuming u know everything zzzzzz
I looked at the "Shortcut to Shred" website and it appears to be a plan to build muscle. Is that not bulking?
There are also many supplements that are recommended as part of the plan: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/jim-stoppani-six-week-shortcut-to-shred-supplements.html
I counted 33 different doses of the recommended supplements in a given day.
The clue that I'm not bulking is in the word 'shred' and I can't afford to take all those supplements for one so there's another thing you're wrong in assuming, stop going on now please
I asked about your plan and you told me to look it up. I looked it up and you told me to stop assuming. If you don't want people to assume your plan is what is on the website, consider not referring them to the website when they ask about your plan.
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If you're restricting yourself of food you like to eat, of course anytime you get a chance to eat it, you'll love it. Why would anyone else think differently?
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If you're restricting yourself of food you like to eat, of course anytime you get a chance to eat it, you'll love it. Why would anyone else think differently?
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IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
For me it's not about restricting certain foods. I eat pretty much the same foods on low calorie days as I do on the weekends. It's about eating more and not fretting over ever single calorie.0 -
If you're restricting yourself of food you like to eat, of course anytime you get a chance to eat it, you'll love it. Why would anyone else think differently?
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IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Spot on mate, would much rather have a decent rewarding amount on a cheat day once a week after being good all week rather than small amounts throughout the week that leave you wanting more0 -
janejellyroll wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »You posted elsewhere you are following an hypertrophy program. A different program from the one you are psoting here about. The only thing in common is that both programs include more supplements than real food. All I can say is that if you need to eat like 20 different supplement per day to achieve your goals (which are conveniently sold by the site offering the program), something smells fishy. Not to mention that a 3000 calorie program where you need cheat days to eat a piece of chocolate sounds ... fascinating.
Following one food regime and a different one for workouts, not taking 20 different supplements or anything else that you're assuming, nothing smells fishy you're just assuming, thanks
So, you are just googling, picking up different things here and there, are trying to follow a bulking fitness plan, while having in your profile a weight loss goal. Then you choose a bodybuilding eating plan which relies on macro balance, you decouple it from the weight lifting plan, you are not replacing with food the nutrients that your eating plan expects you to take in supplements, so the macros are always off and and then adding cheat days, which mean that your whole eating plan is off anyway? Honestly, just save yourself a lot of trouble, and just make things simpler:
Pick a goal, decide if you are doing recomp, weight loss or bulking.
Figure the calories that go with your goal and then choose an exercise plan that supports your goal.
Then pick foods you like to get to your calories and close to your macros.
Simpler, and will actually work.
It does nto sound that cool when discussing it with other newbies in fitness forum, but I am assuming you are hoping for long term results not bragging to other people about your program, right?
Clearly not bulking, stop going on now just assuming u know everything zzzzzz
I looked at the "Shortcut to Shred" website and it appears to be a plan to build muscle. Is that not bulking?
There are also many supplements that are recommended as part of the plan: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/jim-stoppani-six-week-shortcut-to-shred-supplements.html
I counted 33 different doses of the recommended supplements in a given day.
The clue that I'm not bulking is in the word 'shred' and I can't afford to take all those supplements for one so there's another thing you're wrong in assuming, stop going on now please
I asked about your plan and you told me to look it up. I looked it up and you told me to stop assuming. If you don't want people to assume your plan is what is on the website, consider not referring them to the website when they ask about your plan.
I was confused as well. You aren't the only one.
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janejellyroll wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »You posted elsewhere you are following an hypertrophy program. A different program from the one you are psoting here about. The only thing in common is that both programs include more supplements than real food. All I can say is that if you need to eat like 20 different supplement per day to achieve your goals (which are conveniently sold by the site offering the program), something smells fishy. Not to mention that a 3000 calorie program where you need cheat days to eat a piece of chocolate sounds ... fascinating.
Following one food regime and a different one for workouts, not taking 20 different supplements or anything else that you're assuming, nothing smells fishy you're just assuming, thanks
So, you are just googling, picking up different things here and there, are trying to follow a bulking fitness plan, while having in your profile a weight loss goal. Then you choose a bodybuilding eating plan which relies on macro balance, you decouple it from the weight lifting plan, you are not replacing with food the nutrients that your eating plan expects you to take in supplements, so the macros are always off and and then adding cheat days, which mean that your whole eating plan is off anyway? Honestly, just save yourself a lot of trouble, and just make things simpler:
Pick a goal, decide if you are doing recomp, weight loss or bulking.
Figure the calories that go with your goal and then choose an exercise plan that supports your goal.
Then pick foods you like to get to your calories and close to your macros.
Simpler, and will actually work.
It does nto sound that cool when discussing it with other newbies in fitness forum, but I am assuming you are hoping for long term results not bragging to other people about your program, right?
Clearly not bulking, stop going on now just assuming u know everything zzzzzz
I looked at the "Shortcut to Shred" website and it appears to be a plan to build muscle. Is that not bulking?
There are also many supplements that are recommended as part of the plan: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/jim-stoppani-six-week-shortcut-to-shred-supplements.html
I counted 33 different doses of the recommended supplements in a given day.
The clue that I'm not bulking is in the word 'shred' and I can't afford to take all those supplements for one so there's another thing you're wrong in assuming, stop going on now please
I asked about your plan and you told me to look it up. I looked it up and you told me to stop assuming. If you don't want people to assume your plan is what is on the website, consider not referring them to the website when they ask about your plan.
Because he's following the plan...but not following it
Adding muscle...but not bulking
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If you're restricting yourself of food you like to eat, of course anytime you get a chance to eat it, you'll love it. Why would anyone else think differently?
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Spot on mate, would much rather have a decent rewarding amount on a cheat day once a week after being good all week rather than small amounts throughout the week that leave you wanting more
Ah, that's (bold part) is the issue then. I remember those days.
What works for me is to weigh all my food, including those daily treats, and then simply putting the container away. I could never have chocolate or any other sweet-treat in the house without eating the whole thing. Now I can. I feel victorious!
I realize what I do may not work for everyone though.
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ceoverturf wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »You posted elsewhere you are following an hypertrophy program. A different program from the one you are psoting here about. The only thing in common is that both programs include more supplements than real food. All I can say is that if you need to eat like 20 different supplement per day to achieve your goals (which are conveniently sold by the site offering the program), something smells fishy. Not to mention that a 3000 calorie program where you need cheat days to eat a piece of chocolate sounds ... fascinating.
Following one food regime and a different one for workouts, not taking 20 different supplements or anything else that you're assuming, nothing smells fishy you're just assuming, thanks
So, you are just googling, picking up different things here and there, are trying to follow a bulking fitness plan, while having in your profile a weight loss goal. Then you choose a bodybuilding eating plan which relies on macro balance, you decouple it from the weight lifting plan, you are not replacing with food the nutrients that your eating plan expects you to take in supplements, so the macros are always off and and then adding cheat days, which mean that your whole eating plan is off anyway? Honestly, just save yourself a lot of trouble, and just make things simpler:
Pick a goal, decide if you are doing recomp, weight loss or bulking.
Figure the calories that go with your goal and then choose an exercise plan that supports your goal.
Then pick foods you like to get to your calories and close to your macros.
Simpler, and will actually work.
It does nto sound that cool when discussing it with other newbies in fitness forum, but I am assuming you are hoping for long term results not bragging to other people about your program, right?
Clearly not bulking, stop going on now just assuming u know everything zzzzzz
I looked at the "Shortcut to Shred" website and it appears to be a plan to build muscle. Is that not bulking?
There are also many supplements that are recommended as part of the plan: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/jim-stoppani-six-week-shortcut-to-shred-supplements.html
I counted 33 different doses of the recommended supplements in a given day.
The clue that I'm not bulking is in the word 'shred' and I can't afford to take all those supplements for one so there's another thing you're wrong in assuming, stop going on now please
I asked about your plan and you told me to look it up. I looked it up and you told me to stop assuming. If you don't want people to assume your plan is what is on the website, consider not referring them to the website when they ask about your plan.
Because he's following the plan...but not following it
Adding muscle...but not bulking
Clear now?
Ohhhh, now it all makes sense.
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I have a cheat day every Saturday. In the scheme of a week I still end up in the green. I usually just eat things that truly add nothing nutritionally or very little. Usually it is a fried food of some kind or a huge bowl of cheesy pasta. I still have treats all week so I dont feel deprived or any of that madness. Cheat days never make me feel sluggish or bad or guilty because cheat day is a just words and I don't let words dictate my mood unlike it appears most ppl here who are all snotty anytime the subject of cheat day comes up!0
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