Article in the New Zealand Herald this morning. I'm a bit lost for words.

JordisTSM

nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11438302

Sabine_Stroehm

I'm joining you at a loss for words.

girlviernes

Jeez...

I love this quote: "But one of the trial's organisers, trainee specialist Dr Debi Prasad, rejected this, as the device was only temporary, being removed once patients reached their goal weight, and because they would be supported to adopt healthier eating habits and to do more physical activity."

Right, because isn't that the key to successful weight control. Lose the weight without having to actually learn to moderate anything and then just stop using the tool once you hit your goal.

Looncove_Farm

JPW1990

I think there's an Adipose joke in there somewhere. I didn't read through the article, since I was unfortunate enough to see a video about it once, and that was traumatic enough.

sandryc79

I have words but they violate the terms of use.


Wow.

sofaking6

I have a word - "bulimia".

I mean oh my GAWD it's a HAND PUMP. Can't we just go back to the innocent times of laxatives and fingers down throats?

Ninkyou

So... basically you puke out a tube that's attached to your stomach. Ew.

Imagine going out on a date with that thing...
"Before we continue making out, I need to pump out the dinner we just had."

stephanieluvspb

Here's a word.....ewwwwwwww!!

LAWoman72

Oh, my God...you're kidding me.

I...I just...holy cow.

ahoy_m8

Are you sure that's not The Onion? Or the New Zealand version?

PeachyCarol

I... can't. I just can't.

Just...

LAWoman72

ahoy_m8 wrote: »

Are you sure that's not The Onion? Or the New Zealand version?

I don't think so. A quick peek at their site seems to show legit stories.

Oh, this just makes me sick. Physically sick. I mean my stomach was cramping just reading it.

Ninkyou

mamapeach910 wrote: »

I... can't. I just can't.

Just...

Sabine_Stroehm

ahoy_m8 wrote: »

Are you sure that's not The Onion? Or the New Zealand version?

That was my first thought as well. ha.

CooCooPuff

I've tried to sit down and read the article but I just can't make myself...

SLLRunner

The story is taking too long to load on my tablet, so I shut it down....thank goodness, because from the descriptions here, I don't think I want to read it.

Ninkyou wrote: »

So... basically you puke out a tube that's attached to your stomach. Ew.

Imagine going out on a date with that thing...
"Before we continue making out, I need to pump out the dinner we just had."

This sounds like glorified bulimia to me. It's been almost 30 years since I used to make myself throw up, and I don't ever want to go back there in any fashion whatsoever.

Mr_Knight

In a world where billions are starving, that's flat out immoral.

Chrysalid2014

I've seen it described elsewhere as a last-ditch measure for desperate, morbidly obese people. Perhaps their only hope.

JordisTSM

ahoy_m8 wrote: »

Are you sure that's not The Onion? Or the New Zealand version?

I wish it was. But nope, that is our premier newspaper/news site.

I. Just. Nope.

girlviernes

Chrysalid2014 wrote: »

I've seen it described elsewhere as a last-ditch measure for desperate, morbidly obese people. Perhaps their only hope.

There are better last-ditch measures.

Ninkyou

SLLRunner wrote: »

The story is taking too long to load on my tablet, so I shut it down....thank goodness, because from the descriptions here, I don't think I want to read it.

Ninkyou wrote: »

So... basically you puke out a tube that's attached to your stomach. Ew.

Imagine going out on a date with that thing...
"Before we continue making out, I need to pump out the dinner we just had."

This sounds like glorified bulimia to me. It's been almost 30 years since I used to make myself throw up, and I don't ever want to go back there in any fashion whatsoever.

Pretty much.

sofaking6

Chrysalid2014 wrote: »

I've seen it described elsewhere as a last-ditch measure for desperate, morbidly obese people. Perhaps their only hope.

I honestly feel like it would be healthier to wire someone's mouth shut. And lock them in a basement. I mean I'm not a doctor but...ugh seriously it is just bulimia. How long do you think it would take someone to start throwing up once they get their stomach pump removed?

angelexperiment

This is outrageous. How is it teaching anyone anything? Like moderation, portion control or healthy eating? It is not. Its like go eat the junk and basically throw it up in 20 minutes. Makes no sense.

sofaking6

We are mad jinxing each other right now!

Chrysalid2014

Mr_Knight wrote: »

In a world where billions are starving, that's flat out immoral.

That's true, and you could say the same of anyone who is overweight to any degree, and therefore by definition taking more of the earth's resources than they need. (And yes, I include myself in that category.)

One member of my family finds this to be the most powerful motivation for maintaining a normal weight, far more powerful than wanting to look better or improve their health. (This person never allows himself to deviate from his desired weight by more than a few pounds.)

JPW1990

sofaking6 wrote: »

Chrysalid2014 wrote: »

I've seen it described elsewhere as a last-ditch measure for desperate, morbidly obese people. Perhaps their only hope.

I honestly feel like it would be healthier to wire someone's mouth shut. And lock them in a basement. I mean I'm not a doctor but...ugh seriously it is just bulimia. How long do you think it would take someone to start throwing up once they get their stomach pump removed?

They wouldn't even have to throw up. It's basically a messier version of chew & spit.

PeachyCarol

Chrysalid2014 wrote: »

I've seen it described elsewhere as a last-ditch measure for desperate, morbidly obese people. Perhaps their only hope.

There are much better last ditch efforts that at least have a much better chance of building modified eating habits due to decreased capacity for it.

LAWoman72

Chrysalid2014 wrote: »

I've seen it described elsewhere as a last-ditch measure for desperate, morbidly obese people. Perhaps their only hope.

I've seen gastric bypass, diet pills that physically curb hunger, diet pills that work directly on the brain, talk therapy, hypnosis and more all described as a the morbidly obese population's only hope. "Only" implies just one so apparently, all of these descriptions have been inaccurate so far. Pretty sure this one will be the same. Also pretty sure many, many people will jump on it if it's approved.

I can get behind one or two of these methods at least for a segment of the population, even if drastic and permanent (such as gastric bypass, so please don't anybody freak out over my having mentioned it) but this? This is just disgusting. And I don't just mean physically. It makes me sick in every way. Literally glutting oneself and then puking it back through the stomach? Jesus Christ. I'm ashamed to be a human right now.

LAWoman72

girlviernes wrote: »

Chrysalid2014 wrote: »

I've seen it described elsewhere as a last-ditch measure for desperate, morbidly obese people. Perhaps their only hope.

There are better last-ditch measures.

Yeah.

Like, say...eating at a reasonable, doable calorie deficit it.

I mean call me crazy.

neanderthin

So you still eat to excess, because if you didn't you wouldn't need it, then you attach a tube to a pump and extract 30% of the food you ate....hahaha. patients must be motivated and monitored, because???? if they weren't they probably wouldn't lose weight, amiright.