AdvoCare

JenLaPointe · June 2013

Anyone heard of AdvoCare? Any opinions about it?

Stooooo · June 2013

Anyone heard of AdvoCare? Any opinions about it?

Yes, my wife and I are currently doing our 2nd 24 day Challenge. We love Advocare, it has changed our lives.

Lyadeia · June 2013

Anyone heard of AdvoCare? Any opinions about it?

It's another fad that hopefully will die with the others. Waste of money and totally unnecessary.

Stooooo · June 2013

Anyone heard of AdvoCare? Any opinions about it?

It's another fad that hopefully will die with the others. Waste of money and totally unnecessary.

Wow a fad that has been around for 20 years and has countless unpaid professional product endorsers. Pretty impressive for a fad.

Alidecker · June 2013

I use the Spark drink, and their shakes, but that is about it. The Spark got me off soda and I like the taste of it. The shakes I like the taste of and they keep me full for breakfast. I've done the 10 day cleanse, lost weight, but I could have done the same thing without it.

Lyadeia · June 2013

Anyone heard of AdvoCare? Any opinions about it?

It's another fad that hopefully will die with the others. Waste of money and totally unnecessary.

Wow a fad that has been around for 20 years and has countless unpaid professional product endorsers. Pretty impressive for a fad.

There are many fad diets and other such things that live on for much longer than 20 years. It just goes to show how gullible it's followers are and how desperate people can be trying to reach for things to be a miracle for them.

Stooooo · June 2013

If it works, then what is the problem. Plus Advocare is not just the 24 Day Challenge. It's common when people don't understand things they put them down.

Lyadeia · June 2013

A lot of things "work." What's the problem with cleanses that allow you to eat nothing at all for 3 days if they work and have the intended outcome of losing weight? Of course that's just an extreme example...

But if all you have to say to me is "cause it works" and "you don't understand" then obviously we have nothing to discuss.

I stand by my original statement that it is unnecessary and a waste of money. It was not said because I don't have your brain power to understand...............

hmarhofer · June 2013

i have a friend who GAINED weight on Advocare. She switched to another shake and lost right away.

Stooooo · June 2013

It is obvious you don't understand. I say this because on the 24 Day Challenge you are eating real, clean food. I actually found myself eating more food than before I started the challenge. I think that maybe you should investigate something before just making a blanket statement.

rachel4 · June 2013

I did the 10 day cleanse I gained weight and really didn't like the fact that I wasn't eating REAL food. I can drink water and eat real food instead of spark (that is loaded with stuff I don't understand) and the shakes. I personally would rather eat real food without any artificial fillers.
that said, if it works for some people and they are able to lose weight GREAT!!!! go for it. IMO I didn't like it

Joreanasaurous · June 2013

Anyone heard of AdvoCare? Any opinions about it?

It's another fad that hopefully will die with the others. Waste of money and totally unnecessary.

This.

BigGuy47 · June 2013

When evaluating a plan to lose weight you should ask yourself, is this strategy sustainable?

ArieMc88 · June 2013

I am currently teking Advocare and am on the 4th day of the 24 day challenge... I love it... i'm not guna lie... I did cheat yesterday and ate some things that i had no business eating but hey... I know my downfalls and have to resist temptations... :grumble:

capnrus789 · June 2013

There's no replacement for hard work and proper eating. Thousands of people lose weigh and get in shape without using anything extra.

professorRAT · June 2013

You can lose weight for free with a consistent calorie deficit. These types of programs/products "work" because they include a calorie deficit. The important part of the program is available for no money at all. That said, it seems that these types of products seem to help some people get started and/or maintain a calorie deficit. Only you can decide if you need that sort of help.

SideSteel · June 2013

If it works, then what is the problem. Plus Advocare is not just the 24 Day Challenge. It's common when people don't understand things they put them down.

I think you shouldn't make assumptions about what people do and do not understand.

Disagreeing does not automatically mean someone doesn't understand.

You sell meal replacement products and workout programs (Advocare and Shakeology/Beachbody). Surely your opinion is unbiased.

Here's one example of a terrible product that makes claims that aren't based in anything remotely true:
http://www.advocare.com/products/well/W3171.aspx

"The AdvoCare Herbal Cleanse system can help rid your body of toxins and waste with its unique blend of herbal ingredients."

This is pseudoscientific garbage and you're ripping people off if you endorse something like this.

As far as meal replacement products, if you want to use them, fine, but it's much cheaper to get a tub of whey and take a multivitamin.

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/445106-is-shakeology-overpriced

Lastly, nothing personal against you. But lets call things for what they are.

lamilli09 · June 2013

*This is coming second hand. I have not tried Advocare.

I have a friend who recently finished her 24 day challenge. She lost 10 pounds - great! But here are the negatives - losing weight that quickly increases your likelihood of stretch marks. (She says that she's seeing a new one forming, but it's TBD whether it will stay or fade.) Additionally, she would really like to change her shape. Unfortunately, with Advocare she didn't have the energy for rigorous, shape-changing workouts.

I would say that Advocare is going to work great if you really want to see a lower number on the scale in a hurry.
But IMO, if your goals include anything else, you would be better served skipping Advocare and slowly adding in healthy choices to your day.

BamaBreezeNSaltAire · June 2013

If it works, then what is the problem. Plus Advocare is not just the 24 Day Challenge. It's common when people don't understand things they put them down.

I think you shouldn't make assumptions about what people do and do not understand.

Disagreeing does not automatically mean someone doesn't understand.

You sell meal replacement products and workout programs (Advocare and Shakeology/Beachbody). Surely your opinion is unbiased.

Here's one example of a terrible product that makes claims that aren't based in anything remotely true:
http://www.advocare.com/products/well/W3171.aspx

"The AdvoCare Herbal Cleanse system can help rid your body of toxins and waste with its unique blend of herbal ingredients."

This is pseudoscientific garbage and you're ripping people off if you endorse something like this.

As far as meal replacement products, if you want to use them, fine, but it's much cheaper to get a tub of whey and take a multivitamin.

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/445106-is-shakeology-overpriced

Lastly, nothing personal against you. But lets call things for what they are.

X2

AlsDonkBoxSquat · June 2013

If it works, then what is the problem. Plus Advocare is not just the 24 Day Challenge. It's common when people don't understand things they put them down.

Your attitude is not selling me on the authenticity of your product. A good sales associate would find a way to slide in a pitch without directly offending anyone or trying to question their A) ability to research or

knowledge base (especially when working in a vacuum where you are unfamiliar with their back ground).

Wetcoaster · June 2013

There is nothing great, special or unique about what they sell when compared with other brands on the market; brands that cost much less and without the many lies or hype needed to get you to purchase them. With a little research, you can find better products and pay much less.

djeffreys10 · June 2013

Nothing more than overpriced supplements. Yes, people lose weight on them. No, it is not even remotely needed. Mainly useful for people who don't want to educate themselves on proper nutrition and apply that education, but rather have someone tell them what to ingest and when to ingest it, imho. ymmv

Stooooo · June 2013

If it works, then what is the problem. Plus Advocare is not just the 24 Day Challenge. It's common when people don't understand things they put them down.

Your attitude is not selling me on the authenticity of your product. A good sales associate would find a way to slide in a pitch without directly offending anyone or trying to question their A) ability to research or knowledge base (especially when working in a vacuum where you are unfamiliar with their back ground).

Sorry I am not trying to sell you on anything. I am not a sales associate. I simply share what I know has worked for me and thousands upon thousands of others. The original poster asked about it. I did not start the thread, I merely replied. I do not lie or hype anything. Now as far as simply selling meal replacements, that is the furthest from the truth and that is what I was saying the person doesn't understand. The 24 Day Challenge provides a meal plan that has real food in it. Yes they can have a shake, but it is not the only thing they eat.

You guys can bash things all you want, I do not take it personal. Not everyone has the time or dedication to design a meal plan, shopping lists and work out schedule. We merely provide that. Sure you can find some of the stuff cheaper, better? I doubt it, but everyone is entitled to their opinion. I happen to get it for 40% off so no I cannot find it cheaper.

So go ahead attack away. I am doing what I feel is best for myself and my family. To quote Dr. Wayne Dyer, "What you think of me is none of my business."

Leah_Sudela · June 2013

I LOVE AdvoCare! It's NOT a diet - it helps and teaches you what to eat, what to avoid, for long term success. It is all real food. The 24 Day Challenge helps you get on track with your life style change.

I've heard a lot of bashing about it but I have definitely heard way more positive. That is why I tried it. I didn't lose much weight on the scale (about 4lbs) but I lost 12.75" in the 24 days! It's geared more towards teaching you to eat "cleaner" and maintain an active lifestyle. Which, YES, you can totally get for free here, etc. I am just a type of person that works better on a challenge and it happened to work fabulously for me! My challenge ended about a month and a half ago and I am still losing weight and inches!
That is why I say it is not a diet - it teaches you how to make better choices daily. I've not been taking any Advo-products except Omegas lately but I completely plan to do another challenge. I completely recommend it!

wadedawg · June 2013

AdvoCare is a massive Multi Level Marketing (aka pyramid scheme) scam. Don't believe me? Look it up.

That ought to tell you all you need to know about them. Chances are anyone who endorses/defends them is trying to sell the products.

Stooooo · June 2013

AdvoCare is a massive Multi Level Marketing (aka pyramid scheme) scam. Don't believe me? Look it up.

That ought to tell you all you need to know about them. Chances are anyone who endorses/defends them is trying to sell the products.

Pyramid Schemes and Scams are illegal. I'm sorry but most are shut down rather quickly. Advocare has been around for 20 years. I guess the hundreds of unpaid professional athletes must be trying to sell products, because they endorse it. I just love blanket false statements.

wadedawg · June 2013

Pyramid Schemes and Scams are illegal. I'm sorry but most are shut down rather quickly. Advocare has been around for 20 years. I guess the hundreds of unpaid professional athletes must be trying to sell products, because they endorse it. I just love blanket false statements.

What pro atheletes endorse it? I mean unpaid endorsements.

"NFL,NHL, MLB etc - Outrageous claims were made about Advocare being the only supplements allowed in pro locker rooms. All supplements used by pro athletes are screened and cleared by NSF International. Only three companies are allowed and Advocare is not one of them.

Texans "clean sweep" http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2010/10/texans-institute-clean-sweep-on-locker-room-supplements/1

http://www.nsf.org/index.asp

The only supplement company approved for use in major league sports is EAS.

Certified for Sport - EAS and Redbull have been tested, accepted and listed. Advocare is not.

http://www.nsfsport.com/listings/certified_products.asp"

"Professional and celebrity endorsements are used quite heavily as a way to gain trust. I have heard many times that these sponsors are not paid and support Advocare because of the great products they make. While I did not dig into the endorsement side of Advocare, I did stumble upon the contradiction of the claim, "unpaid endorsers" with one of their most notable endorser, Drew Brees.

While Advocare may not pay Drew Brees directly, they supply him and his family with all of the product they want. Advocare is also a contributor to the "Drew Brees Foundation. The biggest contradiction to the "unpaid endorser" claim can be found on Drew Brees personal website. Here he lists all of the financial sponsors who support him. Advocare is on that list.

Drew Brees

http://www.advocare.com/company/spokesperson.aspx

"AdvoCare supports the Drew Brees Foundation, started by Drew and his wife Brittany and participated in the "The Amazing Race" event in New Orleans presented by the foundation."

Drew Brees paid to endorse Advocare, among others; http://www.drewbrees.com/disclaimer http://blogs.forbes.com/jeffbercovici/2010/12/23/drew-brees-toes-ftcs-line-on-twitter-endorsements/"

"Advocare is quick to sell you on the business aspect of signing on as a distributor. One of the biggest carrots that they dangle in front of you is financial freedom the amount of money you can make. What they are less likely to tell you are what the odds are against you in being successful. Or, the actual average income Advocare distributors make. Why? Because the failure rate of distributors is around 95%. A person has a better chance of winning money by gambling in Las Vegas.

The average annual income of a "Gold Level" distributor is $36,849; before expenses. On average, it takes a person about 2 years to get there and out of all of the distributors under Advocares umbrella, only 2% reach this level. The averages for the next level up, "Gold 3 Star", is $40,516 per year before expenses and only .44% (less than one half of one percent!) of distributors are at this level. And these numbers only represent those that have earned a check from Advocare. The link below shows the actual Advocare Income disclosure statement.

http://www.advofit.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/2010incomedisclosurestatement.pdf

99.1% of all people lost money with Advocare

http://www.ftc.gov/os/comments/bizoppstaffreport/00008-57281.pdf

Consider this quote from Advocare"˜s Policy and Procedures manual regarding its compensation plan: "You may choose any method you like to achieve Advisor status. These examples point out the practical reasons you always want to track your volume if you think you"˜re close to qualifying Advisor status and if necessary, cover the $500 Personal Volume with your own purchases."

http://www.ftc.gov/os/comments/bizoppstaffreport/00014-57319.pdf

AdvoCare has been named in 11 ephedra-related lawsuits

http://www.lawfuel.com/show-release.asp?ID=4630

Advocare lost lawsuit in November 2010

http://www.courtstuff.com/5TH/EDOCS/10/0/10059018.PDF

Page# 4,5,6 - statement of facts partially reads as follows:

"The rule of following the money to understand causation is readily apparent: Mark Leitgeb, one of 2 Million Dollar Men (see infra), profited from 5 of the 6 terminations, Diane McDaniel, the wife of Danny McDaniel, the other Million Dollar Man, profited from 3, and Advocare itself profited from 3.

Danny McDaniel claimed that he saw no conflict of interest in terminating 3 of his best friends and former football heros when their earnings then flowed up to his wife, because he had been instructed ("convicted") to do so by the Lord. McDaniel 8RR 222-227"

The above quote is taken directly from court records.

http://www.5thcoa.courts.state.tx.us/EDOCS/10/0/10091719.PDF

"Jury Awards Million Dollar Verdict Against Advocare

Dallas Jury Returns $1.9 Million Verdict Against Nutritional Supplement Provider AdvoCare. A Dallas jury has awarded a $1.9 million verdict against AdvoCare International L.P., a Carrollton, Texas-based multi-level marketer and supplier of nutritional supplements and skincare products. Following a two-week trial in Dallas County's 191st District Court, jurors found that the company violated the Texas Deceptive Trade Practices Act by engaging in an unconscionable action by canceling agreements with distributors Bruce and Teresa Badgett of Arlington. 2009"

AdvoCare Disputes Drug Test Ruling

"AdvoCare International is disputing an arbitration panel's finding that a contaminated AdvoCare dietary supplement caused swimmer Jessica Hardy to test positive for a banned performance enhancing substance.

With its decision Monday, the panel shortened Hardy's competition ban to one year, from two. Carrollton-based AdvoCare said Tuesday in a statement that the panel's finding "is in direct conflict" with "independent" testing that showed Hardy's supplements to be free of contaminants. Also, the company said, the arbitration process was "severely flawed," in part because AdvoCare was not allowed to participate or even attend.

Howard Jacobs, Hardy's attorney, said in a statement that the arbitrators were correct in not allowing AdvoCare into the process and that the scientific evidence presented by his client at the hearing "was fully vetted through vigorous cross-examination."

According to a copy of the arbitration panel's report posted on the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency's Web site, "miniscule quantities" of clenbuterol, a banned substance, were found in one of the AdvoCare supplements, Arginine Extreme. Supplements from the same lots Hardy used were tested at the swimmer's request."

"The top court in sports ruled in Hardy's favor Friday, siding with her claim that a contaminated supplement was to blame and rejecting an appeal by the World Anti-Doping Agency to extend her suspension for another year." 5/21/2010

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/olympics/2010-05-21-1056744171_x.htm

http://steroidreport.com/2008/08/03/jessica-hardy-advocare-supplements-contain-clenbuterol/#more-181"

Advocare is a friggin scam. Period.

Stooooo · June 2013

Oh so you dug up all kinds of negative info. So you must be right. How silly of me for thinking for myself and not going with the herd. Thank you for showing me the folly of my ways oh wise one.

Wetcoaster · June 2013

Google Penn and Teller on You Tube about MLM's......they tell it like it is.

pastryari · June 2013

wadedawg · June 2013

Oh so you dug up all kinds of negative info. So you must be right. How silly of me for thinking for myself and not going with the herd. Thank you for showing me the folly of my ways oh wise one.

No problem. I checked your profile, and you hock the crap. I rest my case. Do you also sell Amway? Thinking for yourself? Hardly pal. You spout the same prepackaged crap everyone who sells this bs does, and it's primarily lies and half-truths. The truth about both the company and its products is freely available on the internet, and it doesn't take much looking to find it. Keep preying on the gullible.

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