Cheese

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  • bio_fit
    bio_fit Posts: 307 Member
    3bambi3 wrote: »
    bio_fit wrote: »
    Honestly, it's probably just easier if you guys do your own research. Like I said, 'processed cheese' is specific terminology. It doesn't refer to the things you are talking about.

    I know exactly what the terminology refers to. You didn't explain it correctly, and then you started wildly moving goal posts.

    I'm sorry, I was unaware I moved any goalposts. Can you please show me where I went wrong or where I contradicted myself? I repeatedly defined what 'processed cheese' is, I had hoped that would have been enough.
  • Nony_Mouse
    Nony_Mouse Posts: 5,646 Member
    3bambi3 wrote: »
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    Just taking a step back here - we do all agree that cheese, in its many forms, is awesome, right??

    Yes! Except for the bleu cheeses, obvi.

    I'm sorry, I cannot possibly agree with you on that!! But I guess people not liking it leaves more in the world for me :)
  • Nony_Mouse
    Nony_Mouse Posts: 5,646 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    Just taking a step back here - we do all agree that cheese, in its many forms, is awesome, right??

    unless it is processed….

    Oh you :p
  • marissafit06
    marissafit06 Posts: 1,996 Member
    So, I have always referred to kraft singles as processed cheese in the way that I refer to tissues as Klennex. I think that is the point here.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    Just taking a step back here - we do all agree that cheese, in its many forms, is awesome, right??

    unless it is processed….

    Oh you :p

    LOL

    well according to OP it is bad if it is processed..

    I love cheese in all forms….
  • 3bambi3
    3bambi3 Posts: 1,650 Member
    bio_fit wrote: »
    3bambi3 wrote: »
    bio_fit wrote: »
    Honestly, it's probably just easier if you guys do your own research. Like I said, 'processed cheese' is specific terminology. It doesn't refer to the things you are talking about.

    I know exactly what the terminology refers to. You didn't explain it correctly, and then you started wildly moving goal posts.

    I'm sorry, I was unaware I moved any goalposts. Can you please show me where I went wrong or where I contradicted myself? I repeatedly defined what 'processed cheese' is, I had hoped that would have been enough.

    But you didn't. You just said it was when they added stuff to the cheese. Well, lots of manufacturers add stuff to their cheese. It's the quantity that defines the labels, not the fact of the addition. So, not all cheese with additives is processed cheese product.

    Pasteurized process cheese - contains 100% cheese
    Pasteurized process cheese food - contains at least 51% cheese.
    Pasteurized process cheese product - contains less than 51% cheese.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    edited May 2015
    this thread just shows how ridiculous it is to try and label a food as processed and then say it should be avoided because processed is bad...
  • bio_fit
    bio_fit Posts: 307 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    this thread just shows how ridiculous it is to try and label a food as processed and then say it should be avoided because processed is bad...

    Totally agree with you there.
  • Nony_Mouse
    Nony_Mouse Posts: 5,646 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    Just taking a step back here - we do all agree that cheese, in its many forms, is awesome, right??

    unless it is processed….

    Oh you :p

    LOL

    well according to OP it is bad if it is processed..

    I love cheese in all forms….

    I'm trying to think if I've ever met a cheese I flat out didn't like. I mean, there are certainly some I wouldn't choose over others (the sight of Laughing Cow cheese in the supermarket made me shudder for quite some time after it being my main source of protein doing fieldwork in the tropics for a month once), but if it's between cheese and no cheese, cheese wins every time. And that Laughing Cow had its place.
  • 3bambi3
    3bambi3 Posts: 1,650 Member
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    Just taking a step back here - we do all agree that cheese, in its many forms, is awesome, right??

    unless it is processed….

    Oh you :p

    LOL

    well according to OP it is bad if it is processed..

    I love cheese in all forms….

    I'm trying to think if I've ever met a cheese I flat out didn't like. I mean, there are certainly some I wouldn't choose over others (the sight of Laughing Cow cheese in the supermarket made me shudder for quite some time after it being my main source of protein doing fieldwork in the tropics for a month once), but if it's between cheese and no cheese, cheese wins every time. And that Laughing Cow had its place.

    I would choose no cheese over Casu Marzu. I would choose pretty much anything over Casu Marzu.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casu_marzu
  • bio_fit
    bio_fit Posts: 307 Member
    3bambi3 wrote: »
    bio_fit wrote: »
    3bambi3 wrote: »
    bio_fit wrote: »
    Honestly, it's probably just easier if you guys do your own research. Like I said, 'processed cheese' is specific terminology. It doesn't refer to the things you are talking about.

    I know exactly what the terminology refers to. You didn't explain it correctly, and then you started wildly moving goal posts.

    I'm sorry, I was unaware I moved any goalposts. Can you please show me where I went wrong or where I contradicted myself? I repeatedly defined what 'processed cheese' is, I had hoped that would have been enough.

    But you didn't. You just said it was when they added stuff to the cheese. Well, lots of manufacturers add stuff to their cheese. It's the quantity that defines the labels, not the fact of the addition. So, not all cheese with additives is processed cheese product.

    Pasteurized process cheese - contains 100% cheese
    Pasteurized process cheese food - contains at least 51% cheese.
    Pasteurized process cheese product - contains less than 51% cheese.

    Absolutely. Processed cheese and processed cheese product are not the same thing.
  • Meganthedogmom
    Meganthedogmom Posts: 1,639 Member
    PEOPLE, no need to turn a beautiful thread about cheese into a debate about processed/not processed... Who cares?
    Just CHEESE.

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  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    PEOPLE, no need to turn a beautiful thread about cheese into a debate about processed/not processed... Who cares?
    Just CHEESE.

    g09e1tj3r3y7.jpg

    apparently, OP does…

    and I am bored waiting for the Patriots to make the 32nd pick in the NFL draft, so I need something to pass the time ...
  • Nony_Mouse
    Nony_Mouse Posts: 5,646 Member
    Really all this thread is doing is reminding me that I need to make a trip to the Dutch shop to buy more cheese. There are only five kinds in my fridge at the moment. That is not enough.
  • Nony_Mouse
    Nony_Mouse Posts: 5,646 Member
    3bambi3 wrote: »
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    Just taking a step back here - we do all agree that cheese, in its many forms, is awesome, right??

    unless it is processed….

    Oh you :p

    LOL

    well according to OP it is bad if it is processed..

    I love cheese in all forms….

    I'm trying to think if I've ever met a cheese I flat out didn't like. I mean, there are certainly some I wouldn't choose over others (the sight of Laughing Cow cheese in the supermarket made me shudder for quite some time after it being my main source of protein doing fieldwork in the tropics for a month once), but if it's between cheese and no cheese, cheese wins every time. And that Laughing Cow had its place.

    I would choose no cheese over Casu Marzu. I would choose pretty much anything over Casu Marzu.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casu_marzu

    Oh, okay. Maybe not that one...
  • bio_fit
    bio_fit Posts: 307 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    PEOPLE, no need to turn a beautiful thread about cheese into a debate about processed/not processed... Who cares?
    Just CHEESE.

    g09e1tj3r3y7.jpg

    apparently, OP does…

    and I am bored waiting for the Patriots to make the 32nd pick in the NFL draft, so I need something to pass the time ...

    Bahaha... Yeh, I'm really taking procrastination to the extreme today...

  • 3bambi3
    3bambi3 Posts: 1,650 Member
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    3bambi3 wrote: »
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    Just taking a step back here - we do all agree that cheese, in its many forms, is awesome, right??

    unless it is processed….

    Oh you :p

    LOL

    well according to OP it is bad if it is processed..

    I love cheese in all forms….

    I'm trying to think if I've ever met a cheese I flat out didn't like. I mean, there are certainly some I wouldn't choose over others (the sight of Laughing Cow cheese in the supermarket made me shudder for quite some time after it being my main source of protein doing fieldwork in the tropics for a month once), but if it's between cheese and no cheese, cheese wins every time. And that Laughing Cow had its place.

    I would choose no cheese over Casu Marzu. I would choose pretty much anything over Casu Marzu.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casu_marzu

    Oh, okay. Maybe not that one...

    Yeah. My cheese googling led me down a dark path.

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  • bio_fit
    bio_fit Posts: 307 Member
    Anyway. I'm going to bow out. Maybe I wasn't specific enough in describing exactly which ingredients are added (I started to write it out, but I didn't think the debate would get so detailed... more fool me :p ), but I'm sure we can all agree that 'processed cheese' is a specific thing, and although all cheese is processed, it is not all 'processed cheese'. And processed cheese is not a bad thing, but some people prefer to avoid it.
  • bio_fit
    bio_fit Posts: 307 Member
    At least, I hope we can agree :p
  • Nony_Mouse
    Nony_Mouse Posts: 5,646 Member
    3bambi3 wrote: »
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    3bambi3 wrote: »
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    Just taking a step back here - we do all agree that cheese, in its many forms, is awesome, right??

    unless it is processed….

    Oh you :p

    LOL

    well according to OP it is bad if it is processed..

    I love cheese in all forms….

    I'm trying to think if I've ever met a cheese I flat out didn't like. I mean, there are certainly some I wouldn't choose over others (the sight of Laughing Cow cheese in the supermarket made me shudder for quite some time after it being my main source of protein doing fieldwork in the tropics for a month once), but if it's between cheese and no cheese, cheese wins every time. And that Laughing Cow had its place.

    I would choose no cheese over Casu Marzu. I would choose pretty much anything over Casu Marzu.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casu_marzu

    Oh, okay. Maybe not that one...

    Yeah. My cheese googling led me down a dark path.

    Image-257.png

    Aw, cute sad Maasdam!!

    Mmmmm, Maasdam...(my main reason for needing to get to the Dutch shop, though I will inevitably leave with more than just that).
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  • melimomTARDIS
    melimomTARDIS Posts: 1,941 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    gothchiq wrote: »
    eat an ounce or two a day. Mostly when ppl say processed, they mean gluey low quality "pasteurized processed cheese food product" rather than good quality cheddar, gouda, edam, etc.

    yea, but the "good quality" stuff is still processed…so OP is eating processed cheese. Or, am I missing something…?

    why only an ounce or two?

    I know all cheese is processed; I meant low quality... thanks

    I like the cheeses you are referring to as low quality. Mac and cheese made with velveeta is pretty amazing.
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  • Alluminati
    Alluminati Posts: 6,208 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    gothchiq wrote: »
    eat an ounce or two a day. Mostly when ppl say processed, they mean gluey low quality "pasteurized processed cheese food product" rather than good quality cheddar, gouda, edam, etc.

    yea, but the "good quality" stuff is still processed…so OP is eating processed cheese. Or, am I missing something…?

    why only an ounce or two?

    I know all cheese is processed; I meant low quality... thanks

    I like the cheeses you are referring to as low quality. Mac and cheese made with velveeta is pretty amazing.

    A slice or two of Kraft melting on my burger is awesome. I find lots of quality in it.
  • Alatariel75
    Alatariel75 Posts: 18,344 Member
    OdesAngel wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    gothchiq wrote: »
    eat an ounce or two a day. Mostly when ppl say processed, they mean gluey low quality "pasteurized processed cheese food product" rather than good quality cheddar, gouda, edam, etc.

    yea, but the "good quality" stuff is still processed…so OP is eating processed cheese. Or, am I missing something…?

    why only an ounce or two?

    I know all cheese is processed; I meant low quality... thanks

    I like the cheeses you are referring to as low quality. Mac and cheese made with velveeta is pretty amazing.

    A slice or two of Kraft melting on my burger is awesome. I find lots of quality in it.

    Bears repeating - canned Easy Cheese on Pringles.
  • Alluminati
    Alluminati Posts: 6,208 Member
    OdesAngel wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    gothchiq wrote: »
    eat an ounce or two a day. Mostly when ppl say processed, they mean gluey low quality "pasteurized processed cheese food product" rather than good quality cheddar, gouda, edam, etc.

    yea, but the "good quality" stuff is still processed…so OP is eating processed cheese. Or, am I missing something…?

    why only an ounce or two?

    I know all cheese is processed; I meant low quality... thanks

    I like the cheeses you are referring to as low quality. Mac and cheese made with velveeta is pretty amazing.

    A slice or two of Kraft melting on my burger is awesome. I find lots of quality in it.

    Bears repeating - canned Easy Cheese on Pringles.
    I'm doing it on Saturday. Will report back.
  • Lounmoun
    Lounmoun Posts: 8,423 Member
    I never eat processed cheeses, but love fancy and aged cheeses (Whole Foods cheese counter is my weakness). I also love cottage, ricotta and fresh mozzarella.

    I eat cheese in very modest amounts because of the mixed reviews I've heard on cheese consumption.

    What are YOUR thoughts on cheese in the diet?

    I think if it fits your calories and you like it then you should eat cheese.
    I love cheese. I don't eat as much as I used to but I still eat it regularly.
  • Marcel182
    Marcel182 Posts: 143 Member
    Personally, not the biggest fan of cheese. The only times I can tolerate it is when it's hot and melted, say in a cheese fondue or "raclette", another Swiss specialty. I don't even like it in burgers, so.... yeah. I'll just leave it to all you cheese lovers out there.
  • Emily3907
    Emily3907 Posts: 1,461 Member
    I could NEVER give up my cheese. Ever. It is how I get most of my dairy, because I am not a huge fan of milk. I also refuse to switch to low fat cheese. It will always be full fat cheese for me and I will just adjust my portion size and other calories as necessary.
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