muscle versus fat

eviehowie
eviehowie Posts: 7 Member
edited November 2024 in Health and Weight Loss
Does anyone know how long my weight will go up because of muscle before I stay losing? It is really discouraging to be working so hard and trying to eat right and still not losing weight.
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  • CatHunterFit
    CatHunterFit Posts: 194 Member
    Are you weighing your food and tracking everything?

    Do you do weight training?
  • Noreenmarie1234
    Noreenmarie1234 Posts: 7,492 Member
    How long has it been?
  • arditarose
    arditarose Posts: 15,573 Member
    If you're in a calorie deficit, you should be losing weight, even if you're lifting/exercising. Is that your goal?
  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
    Evie, you need to provide much more detail :smile:

    Your calorie goal?
    Weight lifting, cardio or both?
    How long have you been exercising/dieting etc?
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  • CatHunterFit
    CatHunterFit Posts: 194 Member
    Pu_239 wrote: »
    If you're over weight, and in a calorie deficit(losing weight) your muscle mass won't go UP. If you're gaining and in a calorie deficit, it's due to water weight.

    You said you have been trying for a while now? Well as i originally said, if you're not losing you're not in a calorie deficit, so lower your calories.

    Lower her cals? We don't know if she's tracking her current cals properly yet.

  • MB_Positif
    MB_Positif Posts: 8,897 Member
    It sounds like maybe you're retaining water. How long have you been trying to lose and how long has your weight been staying the same or going up? Likely you just need to be patient.
  • atypicalsmith
    atypicalsmith Posts: 2,742 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    It won't generally be going up.

    Sorry to see you in jail again.
  • CatHunterFit
    CatHunterFit Posts: 194 Member
    We don't know how many cals she's on currently. She might only be on 1200 or something (as I see on here so often when people want to drop weight fast) so lowering them would be unadvisable.
  • atypicalsmith
    atypicalsmith Posts: 2,742 Member
    eviehowie wrote: »
    Does anyone know how long my weight will go up because of muscle before I stay losing? It is really discouraging to be working so hard and trying to eat right and still not losing weight.

    It's a myth that you gain weight with muscles. Stop overeating and exercise more, and it will come off.
  • CatHunterFit
    CatHunterFit Posts: 194 Member
    eviehowie wrote: »
    Does anyone know how long my weight will go up because of muscle before I stay losing? It is really discouraging to be working so hard and trying to eat right and still not losing weight.

    It's a myth that you gain weight with muscles. Stop overeating and exercise more, and it will come off.

    A myth? No, you can gain weight from new muscle. But you need to be eating a calorie surplus, and weight training to gain muscle.

  • atypicalsmith
    atypicalsmith Posts: 2,742 Member
    eviehowie wrote: »
    Does anyone know how long my weight will go up because of muscle before I stay losing? It is really discouraging to be working so hard and trying to eat right and still not losing weight.

    It's a myth that you gain weight with muscles. Stop overeating and exercise more, and it will come off.

    A myth? No, you can gain weight from new muscle. But you need to be eating a calorie surplus, and weight training to gain muscle.

    Yes you need to be lifting about four hours a day and eating 5,000 calories. That is NOT what the OP was talking about.
  • arditarose
    arditarose Posts: 15,573 Member
    eviehowie wrote: »
    Does anyone know how long my weight will go up because of muscle before I stay losing? It is really discouraging to be working so hard and trying to eat right and still not losing weight.

    It's a myth that you gain weight with muscles. Stop overeating and exercise more, and it will come off.

    A myth? No, you can gain weight from new muscle. But you need to be eating a calorie surplus, and weight training to gain muscle.

    Yes you need to be lifting about four hours a day and eating 5,000 calories. That is NOT what the OP was talking about.

    wut?
  • zoeysasha37
    zoeysasha37 Posts: 7,088 Member
    If your eating at a deficit, your not gaining muscle.
    To ensure your really eating at a deficit, you must weigh and measure everything you consume then log it accurately
  • Liftng4Lis
    Liftng4Lis Posts: 15,151 Member
    With the exception of newbie gains, you're not building muscle in a deficit. I would reevaluate your caloric intake.
  • CatHunterFit
    CatHunterFit Posts: 194 Member
    Pu_239 wrote: »
    We don't know how many cals she's on currently. She might only be on 1200 or something (as I see on here so often when people want to drop weight fast) so lowering them would be unadvisable.

    If she's on 1,200 calories don't you think she'd be losing weight and not making this post? It's also possible she "THINKS" she's eating 1,200 calories but eating more. SO if she cuts her calories, she will be eating more than the number she thinks she's eating. Studies have shown that people have a tendency to UNDER estimate their calories consumed.

    Lets say she's on 1,200 calories and not losing, then in that case, what would you recommend???

    I'm not suggesting anything until we know how many calories she's on currently, how she's tracking her food, how long she's been on the plan and what, if any exercise she's doing.

    My whole point is you can't give out advice without knowing key pieces of information.
  • atypicalsmith
    atypicalsmith Posts: 2,742 Member
    She's eating more than she's burning. Duh.
  • TimothyFish
    TimothyFish Posts: 4,925 Member
    The amount of muscle you gain from normal exercise is unlikely to result in weight gain if you are eating at a deficit. A more likely explanation is that you are retaining water. You aren't likely to see gains from water weight for more than a couple of weeks. If you aren't losing weight by the third week, you are probably eating too much.
  • thesupremeforce
    thesupremeforce Posts: 1,206 Member
    eviehowie wrote: »
    Does anyone know how long my weight will go up because of muscle before I stay losing? It is really discouraging to be working so hard and trying to eat right and still not losing weight.

    It's a myth that you gain weight with muscles. Stop overeating and exercise more, and it will come off.

    A myth? No, you can gain weight from new muscle. But you need to be eating a calorie surplus, and weight training to gain muscle.

    Yes you need to be lifting about four hours a day and eating 5,000 calories. That is NOT what the OP was talking about.

    I'm in to quadruple my time in the weight room and add a couple of thousand calories to my daily allotment! All the gains will be mine!

    Or something...
  • CatHunterFit
    CatHunterFit Posts: 194 Member
    eviehowie wrote: »
    Does anyone know how long my weight will go up because of muscle before I stay losing? It is really discouraging to be working so hard and trying to eat right and still not losing weight.

    It's a myth that you gain weight with muscles. Stop overeating and exercise more, and it will come off.

    A myth? No, you can gain weight from new muscle. But you need to be eating a calorie surplus, and weight training to gain muscle.

    Yes you need to be lifting about four hours a day and eating 5,000 calories. That is NOT what the OP was talking about.

    I'm in to quadruple my time in the weight room and add a couple of thousand calories to my daily allotment! All the gains will be mine!

    Or something...

    :p

  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    Liftng4Lis wrote: »
    With the exception of newbie gains, you're not building muscle in a deficit. I would reevaluate your caloric intake.

    This.
  • eviehowie
    eviehowie Posts: 7 Member
    Wow! Did not expect to get railroaded here. I am on a 1500 calorie diet. I have been doing cardiac rehab 3 times a week since February 2015 and I walk for an hour on all the other days not in rehab. I have been under my calorie goal everyday I have been logging except one. My problem seems to be coming from carbs. Just got percentages of carbs, fats, and proteins 2 weeks ago. After looking back, I think that is what's wrong.
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  • rainbowbow
    rainbowbow Posts: 7,490 Member
    eviehowie wrote: »
    Wow! Did not expect to get railroaded here. I am on a 1500 calorie diet. I have been doing cardiac rehab 3 times a week since February 2015 and I walk for an hour on all the other days not in rehab. I have been under my calorie goal everyday I have been logging except one. My problem seems to be coming from carbs. Just got percentages of carbs, fats, and proteins 2 weeks ago. After looking back, I think that is what's wrong.

    Your problem likely stems from inaccurate calorie tracking and consuming more calories than you imagine.
  • emmoen
    emmoen Posts: 218 Member
    I don't understand how some of you stated that it cannot be muscle gains... If your body has the extra fat that can be burn... You body can use that energy to build muscle
  • Alyssa_Is_LosingIt
    Alyssa_Is_LosingIt Posts: 4,696 Member
    eviehowie wrote: »
    Wow! Did not expect to get railroaded here. I am on a 1500 calorie diet. I have been doing cardiac rehab 3 times a week since February 2015 and I walk for an hour on all the other days not in rehab. I have been under my calorie goal everyday I have been logging except one. My problem seems to be coming from carbs. Just got percentages of carbs, fats, and proteins 2 weeks ago. After looking back, I think that is what's wrong.

    How do you measure/log your food? Do you own a food scale?
  • arditarose
    arditarose Posts: 15,573 Member
    emmoen wrote: »
    I don't understand how some of you stated that it cannot be muscle gains... If your body has the extra fat that can be burn... You body can use that energy to build muscle

    No it doesn't work that way. You can't turn fat into muscle. You can build muscle, lifting heavy, in a calorie surplus. You will gain fat too. If you're truly in a deficit, you will not be building muscle. Especially if you're not lifting/resistance training.
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  • emmoen
    emmoen Posts: 218 Member
    I understand that fats don't turn into proteins but when lipids are broken down to form ATP... The ATP can be used to synthesis amino acids which in turn build muscle when you are lifting at a calorie deficit... This process is usually done on overweight beginners
  • misscaligreen
    misscaligreen Posts: 819 Member
    I have a question and probably a dumb one but I'm going to ask it anyways because even smart questions negative feedback lol so here goes.....if you were eating and maintaining a calorie deficit and losing weight regularly without any exercise is it possible to build muscle or are you saying that in order to build muscle you have to be eating a surplus of calories? I I'm very confused after reading all the posts. I have lost about 60 pounds through diet alone and I am planning to start exercising at some point in the near future to maintain a large deficit so that the weight loss does not stop or slow down I have a considerable amount to lose still. I would like to do strength training because it's my understanding that the effects of strength training workout outlast cardio workouts. any info would be helpful thanks in advance
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