Dad Bod...enough said
upgradeddiddy
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i just watched the funniest video on the reaction to the "Dad Bod" on YouTube.
http://youtu.be/5n94h8qnbwU
All I am going to do is leave that there, note that I agree and see what other people think.
**WARNING: Strong Language**
http://youtu.be/5n94h8qnbwUAll I am going to do is leave that there, note that I agree and see what other people think.
**WARNING: Strong Language**
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I've never heard of this before this video but my husband is 6'4" 375+lbs. When we met he was 267lbs and very muscular, and I didn't even know he existed before he reached out to me and we started talking on Facebook (we worked together but opposite shifts). His personality is what hooked me, not his body. I'm attracted to him either way. I would not ever trade my husband's bod for one of those. Disagree wholeheartedly. And how insecure must you be to use alpha vs beta male.. and for the big *kitten* you in the middle........ yeah, super super insecure. Wow. And why didn't they have women on for their opinion?
You know what makes my husband hot? How funny he is... how he knows everything.... how I feel safe with him because he protects us in every way... he thinks about things I don't... how he can fix everything... how he cares for us... he can cook too
My biggest crush is Zach Galifianakis. Because he's hilarious. Humor, intelligence, and being able to fix things are what make me attracted to someone... yeah the fixing things is kinda weird but if I can do more than you, no thanks.
Maybe these men just happen to be more attractive to women because these men feel they have to have other qualities that clearly these two men think they are missing... at least, that's what some guys have told me.. they have to be funny because they aren't good looking.0 -
hey - it's really good to be insulted first thing in the morning. by not going to the gym 5 hours a day, these guys assume that i'm a beta **** and I don't look good.
Considering not looking good is pretty subjective, and they are trying to refute an article that states i do look good, they are fighting with insults as they think a good Alpha should do, i guess.
Then they also insult women by saying that they couldn't possibly be attracted to a guy who is softer, it must be because they want someone to walk all over.
Honestly, I only made it about 3 minutes in, and that's what I got from it. I really didn't want to give these guys any more of my time.
Signed,
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LOL - what a pair of unattractive idiots. I don't like their bodies - I don't like their minds.0
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The guy on the right looks like he's about to have a cardiac arrest0
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wolverine66 wrote: »
Then they also insult women by saying that they couldn't possibly be attracted to a guy who is softer, it must be because they want someone to walk all over.
Yep. But they are alphas so they respect women.
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Personally, I don't find either guy attractive. I'm not into super muscular guys like the dude on the right that looks like he's about to stroke out at any given moment. I couldn't even make it through the whole video. My guys is an active gym goer, as am I, but he definitely doesn't do it because he doesn't want me to punk him out, he does it for his health. Guys like this are funny, they THINK they know what women want but they're nowhere near right. Not to say that woman don't appreciate men who are in good shape, but women don't want a man who thinks he is the *kitten* either.0
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If there's a male counterpart to misogyny, we just found it. I, also, couldn't make it through three minutes of this and it wasn't because of the language. It was the sheer idiocy and pretentiousness.
An awful lot of what I heard coming out of their mouths is being trolled amongst the dregs of the Internet various bullying and hate communities. To see this making it into the fitness world physically makes me sick.0 -
I have never been attracted to men such as these. Not the muscle. Not their tiny minds. Ugh.
It's funny what some people in this world thinks constitutes a "real man" or an alpha male. My alpha male and yet "soft" husband could out alpha both of these guys any day regardless of muscle mass.
This is absolutely subjective. To each his/her own.0 -
EmilyJackCO wrote: »If there's a male counterpart to misogyny, we just found it. I, also, couldn't make it through three minutes of this and it wasn't because of the language. It was the sheer idiocy and pretentiousness.
An awful lot of what I heard coming out of their mouths is being trolled amongst the dregs of the Internet various bullying and hate communities. To see this making it into the fitness world physically makes me sick.
I wholeheartedly agree with you!
I also could not watch longer than a few minutes. It wasn't worth my time.0 -
They kept claiming to be in defense of their bodies but repeatedly offended those with "softer" bodies. That's not how making a defense works. Idiots <<< That was meant to be offensive.0
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I think that the original article, and this video response represent extreme ends of the spectrum. Both miss the boat.
The article and many of the commenters stereotype men who are in shape, who lift, etc. This video response seems like they took personal offense to it.0 -
LolBroScience wrote: »I think that the original article, and this video response represent extreme ends of the spectrum. Both miss the boat.
The article and many of the commenters stereotype men who are in shape, who lift, etc. This video response seems like they took personal offense to it.
This I completely agree with. The males in my family that are dads do no look like Seth Rogen in the least, treat their women like queens, but push that extra mile to balance life, kids and gym. That's why I agree with the video because (if you actually watched the whole video) both men admit that one of them is too extreme and the other is a work in progress but the label of "dad bod" is an insult to dads who are great dads the are great athletes as well,0 -
upgradeddiddy wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »I think that the original article, and this video response represent extreme ends of the spectrum. Both miss the boat.
The article and many of the commenters stereotype men who are in shape, who lift, etc. This video response seems like they took personal offense to it.
This I completely agree with. The males in my family that are dads do no look like Seth Rogen in the least, treat their women like queens, but push that extra mile to balance life, kids and gym. That's why I agree with the video because (if you actually watched the whole video) both men admit that one of them is too extreme and the other is a work in progress but the label of "dad bod" is an insult to dads who are great dads the are great athletes as well,
I watched the whole video and while he does say that, he also says that there are "two women that wouldn't find him attractive."
I agree that it is flawed to think that the 'dad-bod' is most desired. I also think that a rebuttal like this is useless when your defense is based on opinion and shaming towards 'soft-bodied' individuals. Luckily, I'm a little of both. My arms and shoulders are hard AF and my belly is soft. I get ALL women!0 -
_incogNEATo_ wrote: »upgradeddiddy wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »I think that the original article, and this video response represent extreme ends of the spectrum. Both miss the boat.
The article and many of the commenters stereotype men who are in shape, who lift, etc. This video response seems like they took personal offense to it.
This I completely agree with. The males in my family that are dads do no look like Seth Rogen in the least, treat their women like queens, but push that extra mile to balance life, kids and gym. That's why I agree with the video because (if you actually watched the whole video) both men admit that one of them is too extreme and the other is a work in progress but the label of "dad bod" is an insult to dads who are great dads the are great athletes as well,
I watched the whole video and while he does say that, he also says that there are "two women that wouldn't find him attractive."
I agree that it is flawed to think that the 'dad-bod' is most desired. I also think that a rebuttal like this is useless when your defense is based on opinion and shaming towards 'soft-bodied' individuals. Luckily, I'm a little of both. My arms and shoulders are hard AF and my belly is soft. I get ALL women!
No, he says there are two women who WOULD find his extreme physique attractive.0 -
_incogNEATo_ wrote: »upgradeddiddy wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »I think that the original article, and this video response represent extreme ends of the spectrum. Both miss the boat.
The article and many of the commenters stereotype men who are in shape, who lift, etc. This video response seems like they took personal offense to it.
This I completely agree with. The males in my family that are dads do no look like Seth Rogen in the least, treat their women like queens, but push that extra mile to balance life, kids and gym. That's why I agree with the video because (if you actually watched the whole video) both men admit that one of them is too extreme and the other is a work in progress but the label of "dad bod" is an insult to dads who are great dads the are great athletes as well,
I watched the whole video and while he does say that, he also says that there are "two women that wouldn't find him attractive."
I agree that it is flawed to think that the 'dad-bod' is most desired. I also think that a rebuttal like this is useless when your defense is based on opinion and shaming towards 'soft-bodied' individuals. Luckily, I'm a little of both. My arms and shoulders are hard AF and my belly is soft. I get ALL women!
It wasn't a rebuttal. It was affirming that both sides are in the extreme and I can identify why the response to dad bod was somewhat deserved. Don't get me wrong, like you just said, there are "soft bodied" individuals like yourself who do get women (when I was out of shape it was no different) but to label "dad bod" is stupid.0 -
LolBroScience wrote: »I think that the original article, and this video response represent extreme ends of the spectrum. Both miss the boat.
The article and many of the commenters stereotype men who are in shape, who lift, etc. This video response seems like they took personal offense to it.
I never saw the original "Dad bod" article, and never hear the term until yesterday, so I can't comment on it (I'm not sure I even want to see it).
This video does seem like they took it personally. Which is odd seeing as they proclaim to be ALPHA... you'd think that would encompass not being thin skinned.
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wolverine66 wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »I think that the original article, and this video response represent extreme ends of the spectrum. Both miss the boat.
The article and many of the commenters stereotype men who are in shape, who lift, etc. This video response seems like they took personal offense to it.
I never saw the original "Dad bod" article, and never hear the term until yesterday, so I can't comment on it (I'm not sure I even want to see it).
This video does seem like they took it personally. Which is odd seeing as they proclaim to be ALPHA... you'd think that would encompass not being thin skinned.
Not sure if this is the "original", but this is the one that I saw posted multiple times.
http://theodysseyonline.com/clemson/dad-bod/97484
It's written by a college girl who graduates in 17'
Saw a few others with ridiculous stereotypical Facebook comments as well.0 -
LolBroScience wrote: »_incogNEATo_ wrote: »upgradeddiddy wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »I think that the original article, and this video response represent extreme ends of the spectrum. Both miss the boat.
The article and many of the commenters stereotype men who are in shape, who lift, etc. This video response seems like they took personal offense to it.
This I completely agree with. The males in my family that are dads do no look like Seth Rogen in the least, treat their women like queens, but push that extra mile to balance life, kids and gym. That's why I agree with the video because (if you actually watched the whole video) both men admit that one of them is too extreme and the other is a work in progress but the label of "dad bod" is an insult to dads who are great dads the are great athletes as well,
I watched the whole video and while he does say that, he also says that there are "two women that wouldn't find him attractive."
I agree that it is flawed to think that the 'dad-bod' is most desired. I also think that a rebuttal like this is useless when your defense is based on opinion and shaming towards 'soft-bodied' individuals. Luckily, I'm a little of both. My arms and shoulders are hard AF and my belly is soft. I get ALL women!
No, he says there are two women who WOULD find his extreme physique attractive.
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upgradeddiddy wrote: »_incogNEATo_ wrote: »upgradeddiddy wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »I think that the original article, and this video response represent extreme ends of the spectrum. Both miss the boat.
The article and many of the commenters stereotype men who are in shape, who lift, etc. This video response seems like they took personal offense to it.
This I completely agree with. The males in my family that are dads do no look like Seth Rogen in the least, treat their women like queens, but push that extra mile to balance life, kids and gym. That's why I agree with the video because (if you actually watched the whole video) both men admit that one of them is too extreme and the other is a work in progress but the label of "dad bod" is an insult to dads who are great dads the are great athletes as well,
I watched the whole video and while he does say that, he also says that there are "two women that wouldn't find him attractive."
I agree that it is flawed to think that the 'dad-bod' is most desired. I also think that a rebuttal like this is useless when your defense is based on opinion and shaming towards 'soft-bodied' individuals. Luckily, I'm a little of both. My arms and shoulders are hard AF and my belly is soft. I get ALL women!
It wasn't a rebuttal. It was affirming that both sides are in the extreme and I can identify why the response to dad bod was somewhat deserved. Don't get me wrong, like you just said, there are "soft bodied" individuals like yourself who do get women (when I was out of shape it was no different) but to label "dad bod" is stupid.
To say it was deserved means that there is merit in what these guys are saying. I would say that if they were more rational, and reasoned instead of hot-headed and insulting, they would have been able to get valid points accross.
Instead any valid points get lost in their own ego, and putting everyone down.
There is probably a response that needs to be presented to the "dad bod" thing, but this is not it.
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wolverine66 wrote: »upgradeddiddy wrote: »_incogNEATo_ wrote: »upgradeddiddy wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »I think that the original article, and this video response represent extreme ends of the spectrum. Both miss the boat.
The article and many of the commenters stereotype men who are in shape, who lift, etc. This video response seems like they took personal offense to it.
This I completely agree with. The males in my family that are dads do no look like Seth Rogen in the least, treat their women like queens, but push that extra mile to balance life, kids and gym. That's why I agree with the video because (if you actually watched the whole video) both men admit that one of them is too extreme and the other is a work in progress but the label of "dad bod" is an insult to dads who are great dads the are great athletes as well,
I watched the whole video and while he does say that, he also says that there are "two women that wouldn't find him attractive."
I agree that it is flawed to think that the 'dad-bod' is most desired. I also think that a rebuttal like this is useless when your defense is based on opinion and shaming towards 'soft-bodied' individuals. Luckily, I'm a little of both. My arms and shoulders are hard AF and my belly is soft. I get ALL women!
It wasn't a rebuttal. It was affirming that both sides are in the extreme and I can identify why the response to dad bod was somewhat deserved. Don't get me wrong, like you just said, there are "soft bodied" individuals like yourself who do get women (when I was out of shape it was no different) but to label "dad bod" is stupid.
To say it was deserved means that there is merit in what these guys are saying. I would say that if they were more rational, and reasoned instead of hot-headed and insulting, they would have been able to get valid points accross.
Instead any valid points get lost in their own ego, and putting everyone down.
There is probably a response that needs to be presented to the "dad bod" thing, but this is not it.
Not all arguments need to fit sensibilities to be any more valid that one another (coming from the family I do, sometimes I can throw a bunch of diverse thesaurus backed argument, other times there a bunch of m***** f****** in there. Doesn't make one argument more valid than the other because you have to listen to grasp and think of other world views. That's a true sense of gathering right and wrong or equal). The whole dad bod thing was off putting. I would think the whole part of the argument saying "you know what you are getting. The same body at 22 is the same you are going to have at 45..." Should be more insulting that someone pointing out your pudge because the "dad bod" mantra eludes that the dad bod guy is not capable of changing his physique because he isn't doing anything now. But hey, it sounds more intelligent so she makes the better point....smh
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upgradeddiddy wrote: »wolverine66 wrote: »upgradeddiddy wrote: »_incogNEATo_ wrote: »upgradeddiddy wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »I think that the original article, and this video response represent extreme ends of the spectrum. Both miss the boat.
The article and many of the commenters stereotype men who are in shape, who lift, etc. This video response seems like they took personal offense to it.
This I completely agree with. The males in my family that are dads do no look like Seth Rogen in the least, treat their women like queens, but push that extra mile to balance life, kids and gym. That's why I agree with the video because (if you actually watched the whole video) both men admit that one of them is too extreme and the other is a work in progress but the label of "dad bod" is an insult to dads who are great dads the are great athletes as well,
I watched the whole video and while he does say that, he also says that there are "two women that wouldn't find him attractive."
I agree that it is flawed to think that the 'dad-bod' is most desired. I also think that a rebuttal like this is useless when your defense is based on opinion and shaming towards 'soft-bodied' individuals. Luckily, I'm a little of both. My arms and shoulders are hard AF and my belly is soft. I get ALL women!
It wasn't a rebuttal. It was affirming that both sides are in the extreme and I can identify why the response to dad bod was somewhat deserved. Don't get me wrong, like you just said, there are "soft bodied" individuals like yourself who do get women (when I was out of shape it was no different) but to label "dad bod" is stupid.
To say it was deserved means that there is merit in what these guys are saying. I would say that if they were more rational, and reasoned instead of hot-headed and insulting, they would have been able to get valid points accross.
Instead any valid points get lost in their own ego, and putting everyone down.
There is probably a response that needs to be presented to the "dad bod" thing, but this is not it.
Not all arguments need to fit sensibilities to be any more valid that one another (coming from the family I do, sometimes I can throw a bunch of diverse thesaurus backed argument, other times there a bunch of m***** f****** in there. Doesn't make one argument more valid than the other because you have to listen to grasp and think of other world views. That's a true sense of gathering right and wrong or equal). The whole dad bod thing was off putting. I would think the whole part of the argument saying "you know what you are getting. The same body at 22 is the same you are going to have at 45..." Should be more insulting that someone pointing out your pudge because the "dad bod" mantra eludes that the dad bod guy is not capable of changing his physique because he isn't doing anything now. But hey, it sounds more intelligent so she makes the better point....smh
re-read what I said. I didn't say it was invalid. I said that valid points got lost in the presentation. As a professional in the field of communication, if you want to get your point across, it must be done in a way where people feel receptive. If you attack people out of the gate, they will not feel receptive. You will find more people don't watch the entire video because the presentation is flawed.
i can't continue a conversation here if you are going to misrepresent my position, and put words in my mouth. I haven't commented at all on the original article, because, as I stated, I haven't read it. I didn't say she makes any points, let alone "better" points.
I also didn't say anything about intelligence, or sounding intelligent.
These guys start off by insulting guys who don't look like them, and women. By doing this, they immediately put up a barrier to whatever message they are trying to convey. They have given neither group a reason to continue listening.0 -
Whenever some dude says "women are attracted to ..." you know you're in for it. I'm sure these guys are experts on women's psychology - in between reps, of course.0
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wolverine66 wrote: »upgradeddiddy wrote: »wolverine66 wrote: »upgradeddiddy wrote: »_incogNEATo_ wrote: »upgradeddiddy wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »I think that the original article, and this video response represent extreme ends of the spectrum. Both miss the boat.
The article and many of the commenters stereotype men who are in shape, who lift, etc. This video response seems like they took personal offense to it.
This I completely agree with. The males in my family that are dads do no look like Seth Rogen in the least, treat their women like queens, but push that extra mile to balance life, kids and gym. That's why I agree with the video because (if you actually watched the whole video) both men admit that one of them is too extreme and the other is a work in progress but the label of "dad bod" is an insult to dads who are great dads the are great athletes as well,
I watched the whole video and while he does say that, he also says that there are "two women that wouldn't find him attractive."
I agree that it is flawed to think that the 'dad-bod' is most desired. I also think that a rebuttal like this is useless when your defense is based on opinion and shaming towards 'soft-bodied' individuals. Luckily, I'm a little of both. My arms and shoulders are hard AF and my belly is soft. I get ALL women!
It wasn't a rebuttal. It was affirming that both sides are in the extreme and I can identify why the response to dad bod was somewhat deserved. Don't get me wrong, like you just said, there are "soft bodied" individuals like yourself who do get women (when I was out of shape it was no different) but to label "dad bod" is stupid.
To say it was deserved means that there is merit in what these guys are saying. I would say that if they were more rational, and reasoned instead of hot-headed and insulting, they would have been able to get valid points accross.
Instead any valid points get lost in their own ego, and putting everyone down.
There is probably a response that needs to be presented to the "dad bod" thing, but this is not it.
Not all arguments need to fit sensibilities to be any more valid that one another (coming from the family I do, sometimes I can throw a bunch of diverse thesaurus backed argument, other times there a bunch of m***** f****** in there. Doesn't make one argument more valid than the other because you have to listen to grasp and think of other world views. That's a true sense of gathering right and wrong or equal). The whole dad bod thing was off putting. I would think the whole part of the argument saying "you know what you are getting. The same body at 22 is the same you are going to have at 45..." Should be more insulting that someone pointing out your pudge because the "dad bod" mantra eludes that the dad bod guy is not capable of changing his physique because he isn't doing anything now. But hey, it sounds more intelligent so she makes the better point....smh
re-read what I said. I didn't say it was invalid. I said that valid points got lost in the presentation. As a professional in the field of communication, if you want to get your point across, it must be done in a way where people feel receptive. If you attack people out of the gate, they will not feel receptive. You will find more people don't watch the entire video because the presentation is flawed.
i can't continue a conversation here if you are going to misrepresent my position, and put words in my mouth. I haven't commented at all on the original article, because, as I stated, I haven't read it. I didn't say she makes any points, let alone "better" points.
I also didn't say anything about intelligence, or sounding intelligent.
These guys start off by insulting guys who don't look like them, and women. By doing this, they immediately put up a barrier to whatever message they are trying to convey. They have given neither group a reason to continue listening.
And I can't continue a conversation with a person who claims to made it to 3 minutes when up until 3 minutes talked about how they read the article, mentioned bodybuilders and trainers who were dads and then said "women who need validation look for guys less attractive to get validation." Now if you are insulted by that point, then I am sorry but if you are a woman who NEEDS validation or think your girlfriend chose you because she needs validation and treats him like a lesser person because she feels superior, then you have a whole boat load of different issues. That's what brought the term beta, someone who doesn't take charge, speak up, have a backbone, gets walked over and as they put it "soft all around" mentally and physically (yea that's about up to 3 minutes and 15 seconds)0 -
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LolBroScience wrote: »wolverine66 wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »I think that the original article, and this video response represent extreme ends of the spectrum. Both miss the boat.
The article and many of the commenters stereotype men who are in shape, who lift, etc. This video response seems like they took personal offense to it.
I never saw the original "Dad bod" article, and never hear the term until yesterday, so I can't comment on it (I'm not sure I even want to see it).
This video does seem like they took it personally. Which is odd seeing as they proclaim to be ALPHA... you'd think that would encompass not being thin skinned.
Not sure if this is the "original", but this is the one that I saw posted multiple times.
http://theodysseyonline.com/clemson/dad-bod/97484
It's written by a college girl who graduates in 17'
Saw a few others with ridiculous stereotypical Facebook comments as well.
This article is ridiculous.0 -
I might point out that the article was written by an 18 year old college student, that isn't even majoring in journalism or anything of the sort. Her intention wasn't for it to make it past normal reach of the publication. She just needed a topic and this was an inside joke between her and her other college aged friends.0
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MonkeyMel21 wrote: »I might point out that the article was written by an 18 year old college student, that isn't even majoring in journalism or anything of the sort. Her intention wasn't for it to make it past normal reach of the publication. She just needed a topic and this was an inside joke between her and her other college aged friends.
That's all fine and dandy, but the comments still point out the negative stereotypes associated with those individuals with above average physiques. There are people that really do think that way.0
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