Eating less and moving more no loss
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Yeap just as expected.0
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The only real reason anyone was criticizing your diet is 1) they were concerned about you getting nutrients and 2) it doesn't appear to be working for you if you aren't losing.
You cannot make a post about not losing and then get angry when people offer reasons why you may not be losing. And yes, people will suggest you are incorrectly estimating foods. That's not a personal attack. It's a suggestion for what is causing you to not lose weight.
You're not eating the same thing every day by your own account. Some days there's a chicken thigh. Some days there's two. Some days there's more eggs. Some days there's less. Some days there's a glass of milk. Some days there's two. Nothing is measured. No, you aren't required to measure. But when you can't figure out why you aren't losing, it's a very easy way to address the problem.
The fact is that you're not holding into weight because you're not eating enough. The issue is something else. Most common culprit would be you're eating more than you think. Nothing personal or rude about it.
Most people don't start off accurately logging. They either over or under eat (for those losing excessively fast). It's hard to accept at first but once you do, it's eye opening and you start losing weight.0 -
ceoverturf wrote: »KingoftheLilies wrote: »FarmingCozy wrote: »
Why would you eat such a massively unvaried & restrictive diet?
Not to mention complete lack of many nutrients, fiber, etc.
Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. But I know that belief is prevalent.
But the OP is most DEFINITELY under-eating. Been there, did that. Never effective or sustainable for the long term. MFP calorie defaults suck for anyone who doesn't lay motionless in a bed all day.
Even though I'm not a fan of the Eat More 2 Weigh Less specific site, I have to agree "you need to eat more to weigh less, eventually" .
Metabolism is far more complex that just calories in and calories out. I get so sick of seeing that over-simplified BS thrown at everyone. Ever notice how the people starving themselves have SLOWED weight loss and aren't just dropping dead, left, right, and centre? Cuz hormones/metabolism.
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Akimajuktuq wrote: »ceoverturf wrote: »KingoftheLilies wrote: »FarmingCozy wrote: »
Why would you eat such a massively unvaried & restrictive diet?
Not to mention complete lack of many nutrients, fiber, etc.
Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. But I know that belief is prevalent.
But the OP is most DEFINITELY under-eating. Been there, did that. Never effective or sustainable for the long term. MFP calorie defaults suck for anyone who doesn't lay motionless in a bed all day.
Even though I'm not a fan of the Eat More 2 Weigh Less specific site, I have to agree "you need to eat more to weigh less, eventually" .
Metabolism is far more complex that just calories in and calories out. I get so sick of seeing that over-simplified BS thrown at everyone. Ever notice how the people starving themselves have SLOWED weight loss and aren't just dropping dead, left, right, and centre? Cuz hormones/metabolism.
so people don't die from starvation anymore? That might be useful information for people in Sudan and Somalia….0 -
FarmingCozy wrote: »jenncornelsen wrote: »no fruit? no veg? just protein........ maybe u should speak with a dietician.
I tried fruit but it just made me crave sugar I actually feel better without it. Veggies to me are rabbit food. The only veggie I've cooked has been Broccoli (sp) but it always causes inflammation. Plus I'm a carnivore at heart.
This isn't the right place to be honest about your woe. I totally know where you are coming from and agree but you have to search out like-minded people and not post this in the general forums and expect any kind of support.
There is nothing wrong with an all animal diet (though I wouldn't recommend just chicken) but why ARE you under-eating so drastically? On an all animal woe you need to eat what your body needs, not starve yourself.
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Hello! I'm sorry to hear that you are not losing any weight. The number one reason people stop losing weight is because they are consuming more calories than they burn. The only way anyone could maintain or gain weight at 800-1200 calories a day is if they are extremely, extremely short or severely underweight. At 160-165 pounds, there is absolutely no way you would not be losing weight if you were actually eating 800-1200 a day.
I'm sorry to say, but you've been eating way more calories than you think! You will most likely have to cut back on your food. If you don't want to start measuring and weighing your food, you can try cutting out some things like a couple eggs everyday for one week, and then start using a little less butter the week after that. I know it might suck because that's what you like and are used to, but do that and see how that goes for a while and I assure you that you will see some weight dropping.
If you ARE only eating 800-1200 calories a day while not losing any weight (although I highly doubt that), you may have to go see a doctor because it could be a medical condition. But I definitely suggest to cut out some food to lower your intake if you do not want to have to deal with measuring and weighing food for now.
Good luck on your journey!
EDIT: Also adding in that if you do start to cut out some of your meat, you can try to add veggies and fruits in. You don't have to do it all at one time (your body would react to all the drastic changes too, but don't worry because it's normal and will adjust). Not only are veggies low in calories, but they will also help keep you full since you will be eating less protein. Less calories -> More veggies adds more volume -> Fuller longer. Remember though that dressing and oils can add heaps of extra calories, so add with caution.0 -
Akimajuktuq wrote: »ceoverturf wrote: »KingoftheLilies wrote: »FarmingCozy wrote: »
Why would you eat such a massively unvaried & restrictive diet?
Not to mention complete lack of many nutrients, fiber, etc.
Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. But I know that belief is prevalent.
But the OP is most DEFINITELY under-eating. Been there, did that. Never effective or sustainable for the long term. MFP calorie defaults suck for anyone who doesn't lay motionless in a bed all day.
Even though I'm not a fan of the Eat More 2 Weigh Less specific site, I have to agree "you need to eat more to weigh less, eventually" .
Metabolism is far more complex that just calories in and calories out. I get so sick of seeing that over-simplified BS thrown at everyone. Ever notice how the people starving themselves have SLOWED weight loss and aren't just dropping dead, left, right, and centre? Cuz hormones/metabolism.
How on earth can you say she is undereating when she does not measure amything? That is complete garbage. I don't even care what she is eating. It's how much that's the problem.
My guess is that her "standard glass" is more like 20 oz than 8, meaning 240 calories more every time she drinks it. And the chicken is bigger than she thinks as well.
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FarmingCozy wrote: »For those asking what I took away or learned from this. It's that not to ask questions here. Those that did try to help thank you I sincerely appreciate it.
I only eat two meals a day usually, then some days I'll eat 3 meals. Yesterday was a good example. No breakfast, 4 farm fresh boiled eggs for lunch, dinner was 2 eggs with 3 strips of bacon. No salt added except for what the bacon or butter may have. Drank water most of the day then had a glass of milk. Followed by my usual chores. I eat the foods I like whole, fresh, no package foods. While it might be boring to some I'm satisfied with it. Always been that way even when i was younger just a plaine jane. The point is I'm trying to better myself and be healthy before I really reach a critical point in my weight. I never want to see 170 on the scale again. Been 150 my whole life now over the past year I've been rocking 165-160. Still not something I want to see on the scale nor feel in my clothes. I'm trying to be patient 2 months I feel is enough. ...I'll stop I don't even know why I'm writing this. I'm pretty sure it will get picked apart too.
Well to be honest i gave you the benefit of the doubt first.
But now i think your bull-*kitten*
When you eat that amount you said here you lose weight....everybody no exceptions.
the thing is you can *kitten* us....most of the people here will know anyway.
BUT YOUR OWN BODY IS THE PERFECT CALCULATOR FOR EVERY CALORIE YOU EAT AND WONT LIE!
you eat too much to lose weight point!
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FarmingCozy wrote: »FarmingCozy wrote: »FarmingCozy wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »
Yeap love my raw milk. I'll have a glass in the morning and sometimes in the evening. But mostly water, I HATE soda's.
How big is your glass?
If you don't measure your food, there is no way of knowing how much you are really eating.
Its just a standard glass cup.
The chicken thighs come in a package I just take one skin it, cook it and eat it. The eggs I just take however many I'm going to use. I don't understand how I can measure that?
A cup as in 8 ounces or a cup as in a drinking vessel, commonly called a glass? Glasses come in a variety of sizes, from shot glass up to omgthismargaritaisasbigasmyhead. Size matters.
Same with the chicken thigh, the bigger it is the more calories it will be.
How long have you been eating more and moving less with no loss? The one week since you downloaded the app and then didn't actually measure or log accurately?
As someone mentioned its a standard glass now I know 8oz.
Its the size of my hand. I leave bone in but skin the meat feed it to the dogs.
I'm not exactly sure of when I've always been a light eater, but I really wanted to focus when I uploaded the app in March I believe.
Please be careful giving chicken skin to the dogs, too much fat is very bad for them. I knew someone that gave their dog too much meat from the table and she got pancreatitis and died.
http://dogcare.dailypuppy.com/can-dog-eat-skin-chicken-2631.html0 -
OP, are you open to weighing and measuring your foods and giving it a try? I think that's what people are encouraging you to do as tense as this thread has gotten. If you do not want to weigh or measure, what kind of advice are you looking for? Different foods to try? More exercise ideas? Just want some more info from you about what you are willing to do or try.0
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btw you use butter too that has calories one tbs is about 100
So lets say 5 egss a day is 350
Two glasses of milk is around 280
4 pieces of bacon 200 ( and that is being very kind)
2 tbs of butter is 200
1120 calories ( i am not worried about under eating)
And that is all you eat every day for weeks? Dont believe it.
no coffee no tea only water?
no bread nothing????
you must be the special snow flock we never saw before.0 -
TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »FarmingCozy wrote: »For those asking what I took away or learned from this. It's that not to ask questions here. Those that did try to help thank you I sincerely appreciate it.
I only eat two meals a day usually, then some days I'll eat 3 meals. Yesterday was a good example. No breakfast, 4 farm fresh boiled eggs for lunch, dinner was 2 eggs with 3 strips of bacon. No salt added except for what the bacon or butter may have. Drank water most of the day then had a glass of milk. Followed by my usual chores. I eat the foods I like whole, fresh, no package foods. While it might be boring to some I'm satisfied with it. Always been that way even when i was younger just a plaine jane. The point is I'm trying to better myself and be healthy before I really reach a critical point in my weight. I never want to see 170 on the scale again. Been 150 my whole life now over the past year I've been rocking 165-160. Still not something I want to see on the scale nor feel in my clothes. I'm trying to be patient 2 months I feel is enough. ...I'll stop I don't even know why I'm writing this. I'm pretty sure it will get picked apart too.
Well to be honest i gave you the benefit of the doubt first.
But now i think your bull-*kitten*
When you eat that amount you said here you lose weight....everybody no exceptions.
the thing is you can *kitten* us....most of the people here will know anyway.
BUT YOUR OWN BODY IS THE PERFECT CALCULATOR FOR EVERY CALORIE YOU EAT AND WONT LIE!
you eat too much to lose weight point!
Yep, call *kitten*...0 -
Akimajuktuq wrote: »ceoverturf wrote: »KingoftheLilies wrote: »FarmingCozy wrote: »
Why would you eat such a massively unvaried & restrictive diet?
Not to mention complete lack of many nutrients, fiber, etc.
Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. But I know that belief is prevalent.
But the OP is most DEFINITELY under-eating. Been there, did that. Never effective or sustainable for the long term. MFP calorie defaults suck for anyone who doesn't lay motionless in a bed all day.
Even though I'm not a fan of the Eat More 2 Weigh Less specific site, I have to agree "you need to eat more to weigh less, eventually" .
Metabolism is far more complex that just calories in and calories out. I get so sick of seeing that over-simplified BS thrown at everyone. Ever notice how the people starving themselves have SLOWED weight loss and aren't just dropping dead, left, right, and centre? Cuz hormones/metabolism.
Not sure I understand what any of that nonsense has to do with eating a varied diet for good health, which is what you were quoting.
Far from "wrong, wrong, wrong". Unless of course you have evidence to suggest living on literally nothing but meat & raw milk is the secret elixir of life, and the bunged up experience the OP is having is not due to having literally nought fibre in her diet.
It may come across as terse, but seriously how can you not know the benefits of a varied diet?0 -
FarmingCozy wrote: »For those asking what I took away or learned from this. It's that not to ask questions here. Those that did try to help thank you I sincerely appreciate it.
I only eat two meals a day usually, then some days I'll eat 3 meals. Yesterday was a good example. No breakfast, 4 farm fresh boiled eggs for lunch, dinner was 2 eggs with 3 strips of bacon. No salt added except for what the bacon or butter may have. Drank water most of the day then had a glass of milk. Followed by my usual chores. I eat the foods I like whole, fresh, no package foods. While it might be boring to some I'm satisfied with it. Always been that way even when i was younger just a plaine jane. The point is I'm trying to better myself and be healthy before I really reach a critical point in my weight. I never want to see 170 on the scale again. Been 150 my whole life now over the past year I've been rocking 165-160. Still not something I want to see on the scale nor feel in my clothes. I'm trying to be patient 2 months I feel is enough. ...I'll stop I don't even know why I'm writing this. I'm pretty sure it will get picked apart too.
You are trying to better your health by eating basically milks, eggs and bacon and nothing else? Makes perfect sense. In the unlikely even you are for real, what you should be looking for is a dr. The kind of help you need, it is beyond anything an internet forum can provide.0 -
Akimajuktuq wrote: »
But the OP is most DEFINITELY under-eating.
"Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. But I know that belief is prevalent." If the OP is not losing weight, and has actually had weight creep up, they are overeating. You don't gain weight from under-eating.
And while there are many complex factors that effect a person's metabolism, it really is as easy as calories in and calories out in terms of weight loss. Whatever hormones, diseases, etc... play with your metabolism still don't break the simple formula that you have one TDEE number each day, and you either lose, gain, or maintain weight depending on how much energy you consume for each of those days compounded over time.
Now if you said health and nutrition are more complex than calories in and calories out, I could definitely agree with that.
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