94g of sugar

babydiego87

:noway: you read that right, that's how much sugar i have consumed today. feel free to check my diary out -- is this going to be detrimental to my weight loss? i feel like 94g is TOO much even if it's mostly from fruit.

how do i eat more fruit without going way over sugar? i know the sugar goal is pretty minuscule on MFP and doesnt take into account the different sugars but really, I'm super shocked at my diary today...

Lalasharni

If I had a dollar for every time this comes up - etc.etc.
Fruit is GOOD! The sugars in fruit are fructose, which is different from glucose, sucrose etc. Your body processes it in a different way.
Eat the fruit and don't sweat it. It will not be detrimental to your weight loss as long as you keep within your macros,

babydiego87

yes i know that. my point is:

is 94g of sugar excessive and should i be trying to be significantly under this? everything in moderation after all.

yarwell

The sugars in fruit are fructose, which is different from glucose, sucrose etc.

Nope, they're the same molecules. Half the sugar in an orange is sucrose, the other half 50/50 split glucose and fructose. Sucrose is itself a glucose and a fructose molecule combined (minus a water molecule).

Your body processes it in a different way.

Yep, and not a good way. Google "Robert Lustig".

I would limit to 50g per day until the science becomes more clear. That's 200 calories on its own.

Having looked at your diary I would lose the juice completely, that's sugar without even the smokescreen of fibre.

babydiego87

The sugars in fruit are fructose, which is different from glucose, sucrose etc.

Nope, they're the same molecules. Half the sugar in an orange is sucrose, the other half 50/50 split glucose and fructose. Sucrose is itself a glucose and a fructose molecule combined (minus a water molecule).

Your body processes it in a different way.

Yep, and not a good way. Google "Robert Lustig".

I would limit to 50g per day until the science becomes more clear. That's 200 calories on its own.

Having looked at your diary I would lose the juice completely, that's sugar without even the smokescreen of fibre.

thanks, nice to hear someone's educated take on it, reading this right now

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-lustig-md/sugar-toxic_b_2759564.html

goodbye juice....

Alphastate

Don't worry about tracking sugars, especially if it's mainly from fruits. The allotted amount on MFP is for added sugars, refined sugars, etc.

crisbabe81

I personally increased my sugar to 50, I love fruit. But yes, skip juice and try to keep refined sugars low. Natural sugars aren't as bad for you.

yarwell

Natural sugars aren't as bad for you.

but only because they are accompanied by vitamins, minerals and fibre.

So they're better than the sugars in a mars bar but only because of the "other stuff". The sugars are the same :-

nee90

I have the same problem, even when I'm many calories lower from my goal, sugar is always too high.
I don't eat sweets or anything like that, it just go high from fruits and bread (even though it's whole-wheat)
11g of sugar only in one small apple? that's insane...

kellykw

11g of sugar only in one small apple? that's insane...

Heehee, this cracked me up!

:laugh:
Those silly apples. They need to start being more logical.
:laugh:

If you love fruit, don't have health reasons for avoiding sugar, and are otherwise meeting your goals, don't worry so much!

socajam

yes i know that. my point is:

is 94g of sugar excessive and should i be trying to be significantly under this? everything in moderation after all.

I would give up the fruity yogurt and have plain yogurt with fresh fruit instead.

babydiego87

yes i know that. my point is:

is 94g of sugar excessive and should i be trying to be significantly under this? everything in moderation after all.

I would give up the fruity yogurt and have plain yogurt with fresh fruit instead.

give up chobani?????



id rather give the juice up...we'll just put the juice back!!!

sullus

If I had a dollar for every time this comes up - etc.etc.
Fruit is GOOD! The sugars in fruit are fructose, which is different from glucose, sucrose etc. Your body processes it in a different way.
Eat the fruit and don't sweat it. It will not be detrimental to your weight loss as long as you keep within your macros,

So does this mean HFCS is better? Since fructose ...

yarwell

57% of the calories in the chobani are from carbs and most of that is 19g of sugar. Actual fruit and real yoghurt instead of 0% fat stuff would be better.

Pangea250

OMG, *puhlease* do not let people tell you that your body "knows" the difference between good sugar and bad sugar and "knows" what to do with it. It doesn't, and it won't. Sugar is sugar is sugar.

JenX15

Apparently a tall latte contains 14 g of sugar. Never realized how much sugar is in non-fat milk alone!!!!! And I don't put any sugar in it.

ScouseNerd

As long as you're under your calories, no reason to avoid fruit! Especially this time of year. Yes, sugar is sugar, but your body gets more of a benefit from REAL sugar, I think is what people are meaning to say. It's more balanced nutrition to eat 200 calories worth of sugar than to down a hot chocolate. Just stay under your calories if it's weight loss your concerned about.
And yes, juice is weight loss kryptonite.

sullus

As long as you're under your calories, no reason to avoid fruit! Especially this time of year. Yes, sugar is sugar, but your body gets more of a benefit from REAL sugar, I think is what people are meaning to say. It's more balanced nutrition to eat 200 calories worth of sugar than to down a hot chocolate. Just stay under your calories if it's weight loss your concerned about.
And yes, juice is weight loss kryptonite.

1. All sugar is real.
2. A hot chocolate is more nutritionally balanced than 200 cal worth of sugar.
3. I've lost about 80 lbs, and I drink 10 oz of Orange Juice right before bed every night.

shannashannabobana

OMG, *puhlease* do not let people tell you that your body "knows" the difference between good sugar and bad sugar and "knows" what to do with it. It doesn't, and it won't. Sugar is sugar is sugar.

Dr. Lustig disagree's with you and his credentials are likely better. Watch Sugar the Bitter Truth. The body treats glucose and fructose quite differently.

To the OP, I think I would work to minimize added sugars and juice, if they are impeding your goals. I would eat fruit in its whole form and limit those if your weight loss stalls. (can't make it through the summer without a little melon and strawberries, personally!)

nleighp

The sugars in fruit are mostly made up of fructose, which is a simple monosaccharide, one of the building blocks of the more complex sugars and carboyhdrates. Quoting from the 13 ed. of Understanding Nutrition:

"Fructose is the sweetest of the sugars. Curiously fructose has exactly the same chemical formula as glucose - C6H12O6 - but its structure is differs...Fructose occurs naturally in fruits and honey; other sources include products such as soft drinks, ready-to-eat cereals, and desserts that have been sweetened by high fructose corn syrup."

So, clearly the difference between fruit sugars and refined sugar foods is not the chemical makeup but instead the additional nutrients you get from the naturally occurring instances, like fruit (i.e. fiber, vitamins, etc.)

While it is good for you to have a 45-65% energy intake of carbohydrates to help with many of the chemical reactions of your body and to relieve the pressure from fats and proteins to supply energy, you do want to make sure you're consuming sugars in moderation and balancing them with high fiber, complex and starchy carbohydrates for a well rounded diet.

Again from Understanding Nutrition on "Recommended Intakes of Sugar":

"The DRI [Dietary Reference Intake] committee did not publish a Tolerable Upper Intake Level for sugar, but as mentioned, excessive intakes can interfere with sound nutrition and good health."

When the chemical makeup of added and natural sugar are the same, you need the balance the nutrients you're gaining from the fruits you're eating and determine if a 94g intake is a net negative, net positive or net neutral on your overall nutrition. If it's neutral or negative consider revising your diet to accommodate that knowledge.

ItsCasey

Depends on your goals and health concerns. My goal is to lose fat without wanting to off myself or anyone around me, so I eat sugar, as much as my macros allow.

filthyfit12

OMG, *puhlease* do not let people tell you that your body "knows" the difference between good sugar and bad sugar and "knows" what to do with it. It doesn't, and it won't. Sugar is sugar is sugar.

This.

Unless you have a medical reason to avoid sugar, there's no point to track it. I consume about 100g of sugar a day and I haven't gained any weight. Calories in vs calories out.

peachfigs

57% of the calories in the chobani are from carbs and most of that is 19g of sugar. Actual fruit and real yoghurt instead of 0% fat stuff would be better.

I think most of the sugar in the chobani comes from the fruit layer...

Maybe you could get the plain one and flavour it in a different way?

nleighp

OMG, *puhlease* do not let people tell you that your body "knows" the difference between good sugar and bad sugar and "knows" what to do with it. It doesn't, and it won't. Sugar is sugar is sugar.

This.

Unless you have a medical reason to avoid sugar, there's no point to track it. I consume about 100g of sugar a day and I haven't gained any weight. Calories in vs calories out.

The problem with this rational is that it is chemically untrue. Science is very clear that our bodies break down, handle and use different sugars (with different chemical compositions) very, very differently. Your body is a powerful machine but it needs to be treated correctly and it _does_ know the difference between sugars and whether drastically or subtly, today or in five years you _will_ reap the consequences of the choices in your diet you make now.

shutupandlift13

give up chobani?????



id rather give the juice up...we'll just put the juice back!!!

I applaud you for this gif. God, I love the trainwreck that is Dance Moms.

cressievargo

Apparently a tall latte contains 14 g of sugar. Never realized how much sugar is in non-fat milk alone!!!!! And I don't put any sugar in it.

Skim milk is basically sugar water.

peachfigs

OMG, *puhlease* do not let people tell you that your body "knows" the difference between good sugar and bad sugar and "knows" what to do with it. It doesn't, and it won't. Sugar is sugar is sugar.

This.

Unless you have a medical reason to avoid sugar, there's no point to track it. I consume about 100g of sugar a day and I haven't gained any weight. Calories in vs calories out.

The problem with this rational is that it is chemically untrue. Science is very clear that our bodies break down, handle and use different sugars (with different chemical compositions) very, very differently. Your body is a powerful machine but it needs to be treated correctly and it _does_ know the difference between sugars and whether drastically or subtly, today or in five years you _will_ reap the consequences of the choices in your diet you make now.

^ Completely agree. Our bodies are way more intelligent than they are given credit for.

Also, it isn't just about weight loss, it's about health. You can eat twinkies all day and still lose weight, but that doesn't mean you should.

filthyfit12

The problem with this rational is that it is chemically untrue. Science is very clear that our bodies break down, handle and use different sugars (with different chemical compositions) very, very differently. Your body is a powerful machine but it needs to be treated correctly and it _does_ know the difference between sugars and whether drastically or subtly, today or in five years you _will_ reap the consequences of the choices in your diet you make now.

I must have missed the point where I told her to go out and eat a bunch of refined sugar in the form of poptarts, ice cream, and candy bars. You can still have a high intake of sugar from healthy, nutrient dense sources.

Faye_Anderson

My diet has significantly improved over the last 5 years but my sugar intake is still a lot higher than the MFP recommended. It hasn't hindered my weight loss or affected my health.
OP Unless there is a medical reason I'd stop tracking sugar, honestly it's all about calories in vs calories out :flowerforyou:

nleighp

I must have missed the point where I told her to go out and eat a bunch of refined sugar in the form of poptarts, ice cream, and candy bars. You can still have a high intake of sugar from healthy, nutrient dense sources.

You missed my earlier post it seems. Refined fructose sugar has the same chemical properties and makeup of natural fructose. The only added benefit of fruit is that there is fiber, minerals and vitamins.

My original suggestion was to look at the OP's entire nutritional intake and decide if there is a net-positive benefit to eating 94g of sugar (and the minerals, fiber and vitamins therein) OR if she needs to cut back to allow for other, more complex carbohydrates.

peachfigs

I must have missed the point where I told her to go out and eat a bunch of refined sugar in the form of poptarts, ice cream, and candy bars. You can still have a high intake of sugar from healthy, nutrient dense sources.

But that doesn't mean it's good for you.