94g of sugar

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  • JessicaOnKeto
    JessicaOnKeto Posts: 364 Member
    OMG, *puhlease* do not let people tell you that your body "knows" the difference between good sugar and bad sugar and "knows" what to do with it. It doesn't, and it won't. Sugar is sugar is sugar.

    QFT :drinker:
  • filthyfit12
    filthyfit12 Posts: 80
    I believe an interview from the master, Layne Norton, PhD in Nutritional Sciences, would be helpful here:

    3.) What do you think to the IIFYM craze?
    I think it’s funny that people find this to be a ‘new’ concept when I was saying “eat your macro targets” for probably a decade. However, kudos for the catchy acronym LOL. I don’t take it to the extreme that many IIFYMer’s do as I do like to point out that macros are important but so is fibre intake. Fibre is thermogenic and has advantages for digestive health and glycemic responses and thus you can’t just eat pure sugar all day to hit your macros and not get any fibre and still have the same results. So I tend to promote IIFYM as a reasonable way to get results but still enjoy on occasion your favourite foods. But there’s no reason to actively seek out eating sugary high fat foods constantly just as a means to prove a point.
  • filthyfit12
    filthyfit12 Posts: 80
    But that doesn't mean it's good for you.
    That doesn't mean it's bad for you either. As long as she's hitting her micronutrients, as well as her macronutrients, without going over her calorie goals, the amount of sugar is irrelevant in regards to weight loss/maintenance. Also, so long as she isn't pre-disposed to diabetes.
  • slkehl
    slkehl Posts: 3,801 Member
    When it comes to weight loss, the only important thing is the number of calories that you're consuming, not what they are made of.
  • nleighp
    nleighp Posts: 117 Member
    When it comes to weight loss, the only important thing is the number of calories that you're consuming, not what they are made of.

    While this is technically true (when it comes to _weight loss_ calories in vs. calories out is the key factor) it's a horrible way to think about nutrition. :(
  • peachfigs
    peachfigs Posts: 831 Member
    But that doesn't mean it's good for you.
    That doesn't mean it's bad for you either. As long as she's hitting her micronutrients, as well as her macronutrients, without going over her calorie goals, the amount of sugar is irrelevant in regards to weight loss/maintenance. Also, so long as she isn't pre-disposed to diabetes.

    Sigh. Weight loss & health aren't the same thing.
  • evileen99
    evileen99 Posts: 1,564 Member
    I don't know anyone who got fat from eating too much fruit.
  • bookyeti
    bookyeti Posts: 544 Member
    When it comes to weight loss, the only important thing is the number of calories that you're consuming, not what they are made of.

    This is technically true (when it comes to _weight loss_ calories in vs. calories out is the key factor) but it's a horrible way to think about nutrition. :(
    Right!
    Except that it isn't the key factor when you have metabolic issues (ie. insulin resistance, PCOS, type 2 diabetes, etc.). In that case, it is not as simple as calories in vs. calories out.
  • nleighp
    nleighp Posts: 117 Member
    When it comes to weight loss, the only important thing is the number of calories that you're consuming, not what they are made of.

    This is technically true (when it comes to _weight loss_ calories in vs. calories out is the key factor) but it's a horrible way to think about nutrition. :(
    Right!
    Except that it isn't the key factor when you have metabolic issues (ie. insulin resistance, PCOS, type 2 diabetes, etc.). In that case, it is not as simple as calories in vs. calories out.

    Agreed. There are genetic and health condition factors that will influence the best ways for an individual to lose weight, but for the average human being cals in vs. cals out is the bottom line for weight loss. Now, for being healthy and have a solid nutritional intake? That's a much more complex idea.
  • filthyfit12
    filthyfit12 Posts: 80
    Sigh. Weight loss & health aren't the same thing.
    Hence why I said "as long as she's hitting her micro AND macro nutrients, as well as fiber."

    Honestly, I don't study nutrition for nothing.
  • nvpixie
    nvpixie Posts: 483 Member
    I actually took the sugar count out of my log and replaced it with calcium. I'd rather track that because I don't really eat many sugary things besides fruit.

    If most of your sugar is from fruit, I'd just ignore the number.

    I know berries are lower in sugar so you could always try to eat more of those if you like them.
  • LongIsland27itl
    LongIsland27itl Posts: 365 Member
    I disagree with others in that I believe fruit should be consumed in moderation. It's sugar/calorie dense, it's natures candy.
  • jkatiebuie
    jkatiebuie Posts: 10
    Adding my $.02

    Fructose is handled by the liver, while just about all other sugars are absorbed be the intestinal lumen into the bloodstream and transported to various cells within the body. The liver will actually stop whatever else it is doing to process the fructose, so if you have high liver enzymes you will want to limit your fructose consumption. Liver also stores excess glucose as glycogen, initially, whereas fructose in abundance is stored as fat, initially. So if you are in a calorie deficit and relatively healthy, you will be fine as far as weight loss/health goes, but if you are in a calorie deficit and struggle with detox, liver issues, hormonal disorders, etc. then you should definitely limit your fructose as it will just lower the metabolic rate of your liver which will slow your weight loss (and keep you unhealthy longer).
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    Hey, that's almost as much as I had yesterday.

    It's only about half of what I had last Wednesday though.
  • filthyfit12
    filthyfit12 Posts: 80
    Hey, that's almost as much as I had yesterday.

    It's only about half of what I had last Wednesday though.
    And you eat ice cream every night like I do. Carbs after 6pm? OMGz don't you know that's gonna make you fat? ;)
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    Hey, that's almost as much as I had yesterday.

    It's only about half of what I had last Wednesday though.
    And you eat ice cream every night like I do. Carbs after 6pm? OMGz don't you know that's gonna make you fat? ;)

    Someone forgot to tell my body. Shhhh. Don't say it too loud. I don't want it to hear that I'm doing everything wrong and should be super fat. I'm enjoying eating ice cream and tacos.

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  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
    OMG, *puhlease* do not let people tell you that your body "knows" the difference between good sugar and bad sugar and "knows" what to do with it. It doesn't, and it won't. Sugar is sugar is sugar.
    This.

    Unless you have a medical reason to avoid sugar, there's no point to track it. I consume about 100g of sugar a day and I haven't gained any weight. Calories in vs calories out.

    The problem with this rational is that it is chemically untrue. Science is very clear that our bodies break down, handle and use different sugars (with different chemical compositions) very, very differently. Your body is a powerful machine but it needs to be treated correctly and it _does_ know the difference between sugars and whether drastically or subtly, today or in five years you _will_ reap the consequences of the choices in your diet you make now.

    ^ Completely agree. Our bodies are way more intelligent than they are given credit for.

    Also, it isn't just about weight loss, it's about health. You can eat twinkies all day and still lose weight, but that doesn't mean you should.

    Not that there's anything wrong with sugar unless you have a medical reason to keep an eye on it, but weight loss and health are mutually exclussive items.

    A low day of sugar for me is ~130g. My weight loss AND health are just fine.
  • nleighp
    nleighp Posts: 117 Member
    Not that there's anything wrong with sugar unless you have a medical reason to keep an eye on it, but weight loss and health are mutually exclussive items.

    A low day of sugar for me is ~130g. My weight loss AND health are just fine.

    Sugar itself is necessary-- your body cannot survive without glucose, for instance. The issue is maintaining a healthy balance based on your body, your nutritional needs, your age, gender, activity level, etc. Keeping with a 45-65% intake of carbohydrates and making sure some are simple and most are complex is the key here. You may have ~130 for your body in your lifestyle and I might have ~60 for mine.

    OP needs to review her body, its needs and then make healthy, educated decisions. :)
  • zornig
    zornig Posts: 336 Member
    Apparently a tall latte contains 14 g of sugar. Never realized how much sugar is in non-fat milk alone!!!!! And I don't put any sugar in it.

    This is why I make my lattes with unsweetened vanilla soy milk! No sugar, and extra protein.
  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
    Not that there's anything wrong with sugar unless you have a medical reason to keep an eye on it, but weight loss and health are mutually exclussive items.

    A low day of sugar for me is ~130g. My weight loss AND health are just fine.

    Sugar itself is necessary-- your body cannot survive without glucose, for instance. The issue is maintaining a healthy balance based on your body, your nutritional needs, your age, gender, activity level, etc. Keeping with a 45-65% intake of carbohydrates and making sure some are simple and most are complex is the key here. You may have ~130 for your body in your lifestyle and I might have ~60 for mine.

    OP needs to review her body, its needs and then make healthy, educated decisions. :)

    Fair enough.
  • victoriousO
    victoriousO Posts: 63 Member
    The sugar category used to drive me crazy but now I try to make healthy choices like trying new fruits and 72% cacao chocolate. Seems to be working great!
  • Timshel_
    Timshel_ Posts: 22,834 Member
    Because of the fruits and other things I eat I am generally above 100g of sugar every day.

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