NoS diet
SkinnyMiss053
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I've decided that I'm going to do the NoS diet to appease my mom, because she thinks counting calories lead to eating disorders. (Past experience with my sister)
NoS goes like this: NoSnacks, NoSeconds, NoSweets, except "sometimes" on days that start with S. (The creator added the "sometimes" to remind you to not be an idiot on S days and eat a whole gallon of ice cream hehehe) So basically, you're eating 3 meals a day on this diet.
In addition to ensure I am indeed in a caloric deficit, and to ensure I get good nutrition from those three meals, I will also use the USDA MyPlate rule, which means 1/2 the plate is filled with vegetables, 1/4 with protein and 1/4 with starch.
I think this plan will fit effortlessly into my life and I'm hoping it will put my mom at ease as well. Opinions?
NoS goes like this: NoSnacks, NoSeconds, NoSweets, except "sometimes" on days that start with S. (The creator added the "sometimes" to remind you to not be an idiot on S days and eat a whole gallon of ice cream hehehe) So basically, you're eating 3 meals a day on this diet.
In addition to ensure I am indeed in a caloric deficit, and to ensure I get good nutrition from those three meals, I will also use the USDA MyPlate rule, which means 1/2 the plate is filled with vegetables, 1/4 with protein and 1/4 with starch.
I think this plan will fit effortlessly into my life and I'm hoping it will put my mom at ease as well. Opinions?
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Eh, I wanted to post this is general weight loss help...stupid mobile app. Oh well, an opinion is an opinion I guess.0
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SkinnyMiss053 wrote: »Eh, I wanted to post this is general weight loss help...stupid mobile app. Oh well, an opinion is an opinion I guess.
Figured out how to move it.0 -
I think if it works for you, then great. Give it a go for a few weeks, if you're not losing you know to reduce portion sizes a little.0
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It is hard to focus on what you are not going to eat.
What are you going to eat with this plan? The myplate probably mostly works for most people.0 -
It is hard to focus on what you are not going to eat.
What are you going to eat with this plan? The myplate probably mostly works for most people.
You can eat anything as long as it's just 3 physical plates of food a day. It's not restricting food, it's restricting quantity. You can have sweets snacks and seconds on s days (special, sick, Saturday and Sunday), as long as it's still reasonable portions.0 -
SkinnyMiss053 wrote: »It is hard to focus on what you are not going to eat.
What are you going to eat with this plan? The myplate probably mostly works for most people.
You can eat anything as long as it's just 3 physical plates of food a day. It's not restricting food, it's restricting quantity. You can have sweets snacks and seconds on s days (special, sick, Saturday and Sunday), as long as it's still reasonable portions.
The idea is that you will automatically eat healthier filling meals because you only get to eat 3 a day. That's what the creator intended.0 -
SkinnyMiss053 wrote: »It is hard to focus on what you are not going to eat.
What are you going to eat with this plan? The myplate probably mostly works for most people.
You can eat anything as long as it's just 3 physical plates of food a day. It's not restricting food, it's restricting quantity. You can have sweets snacks and seconds on s days (special, sick, Saturday and Sunday), as long as it's still reasonable portions.
You'd be utterly amazed at what I could fit on a plate if I was only getting 3 a day... I could knock back a 1300 calorie breakfast easy.
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SkinnyMiss053 wrote: »SkinnyMiss053 wrote: »It is hard to focus on what you are not going to eat.
What are you going to eat with this plan? The myplate probably mostly works for most people.
You can eat anything as long as it's just 3 physical plates of food a day. It's not restricting food, it's restricting quantity. You can have sweets snacks and seconds on s days (special, sick, Saturday and Sunday), as long as it's still reasonable portions.
The idea is that you will automatically eat healthier filling meals because you only get to eat 3 a day. That's what the creator intended.
It sounds to me like deciding to go on a big shopping trip and giving yourself a budget, but instead of just taking that amount of money you decide instead to only allow yourself to pay with £5 notes, but you can take as many as you're willing to take. The logic being that because you'll have to take more than if you were using larger notes or cards you won't want to carry as many, and you won't want to buy things that are so expensive because it'll take longer to count out the right amount of notes. It could work, but you could also go way, way over your budget.
If it works for you and you want to do it then go for it, I just know if I was on that diet and believed that as long as I stuck to its rules I would lose weight then I'd be like @Alatariel75 and eating 1000+ calories each meal.0 -
I'll give it a go. My mom said I can lose however I want as long as I don't count calories. And I added: or do stupid cleanses and detoxes.0
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DemoraFairy wrote: »SkinnyMiss053 wrote: »SkinnyMiss053 wrote: »It is hard to focus on what you are not going to eat.
What are you going to eat with this plan? The myplate probably mostly works for most people.
You can eat anything as long as it's just 3 physical plates of food a day. It's not restricting food, it's restricting quantity. You can have sweets snacks and seconds on s days (special, sick, Saturday and Sunday), as long as it's still reasonable portions.
The idea is that you will automatically eat healthier filling meals because you only get to eat 3 a day. That's what the creator intended.
It sounds to me like deciding to go on a big shopping trip and giving yourself a budget, but instead of just taking that amount of money you decide instead to only allow yourself to pay with £5 notes, but you can take as many as you're willing to take. The logic being that because you'll have to take more than if you were using larger notes or cards you won't want to carry as many, and you won't want to buy things that are so expensive because it'll take longer to count out the right amount of notes. It could work, but you could also go way, way over your budget.
If it works for you and you want to do it then go for it, I just know if I was on that diet and believed that as long as I stuck to its rules I would lose weight then I'd be like @Alatariel75 and eating 1000+ calories each meal.
That's why I added the usda myplate rule. If you fill half the plate with non starchy veggies then you can't screw it up too far, well, me at least.0 -
SkinnyMiss053 wrote: »I've decided that I'm going to do the NoS diet to appease my mom, because she thinks counting calories lead to eating disorders. (Past experience with my sister)
NoS goes like this: NoSnacks, NoSeconds, NoSweets, except "sometimes" on days that start with S. (The creator added the "sometimes" to remind you to not be an idiot on S days and eat a whole gallon of ice cream hehehe) So basically, you're eating 3 meals a day on this diet.
In addition to ensure I am indeed in a caloric deficit, and to ensure I get good nutrition from those three meals, I will also use the USDA MyPlate rule, which means 1/2 the plate is filled with vegetables, 1/4 with protein and 1/4 with starch.
I think this plan will fit effortlessly into my life and I'm hoping it will put my mom at ease as well. Opinions?
Your profile indicates you are 22. The bolded part is alarming.0 -
you're going on a fad diet to appease your mother?
wow
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SkinnyMiss053 wrote: »DemoraFairy wrote: »SkinnyMiss053 wrote: »SkinnyMiss053 wrote: »It is hard to focus on what you are not going to eat.
What are you going to eat with this plan? The myplate probably mostly works for most people.
You can eat anything as long as it's just 3 physical plates of food a day. It's not restricting food, it's restricting quantity. You can have sweets snacks and seconds on s days (special, sick, Saturday and Sunday), as long as it's still reasonable portions.
The idea is that you will automatically eat healthier filling meals because you only get to eat 3 a day. That's what the creator intended.
It sounds to me like deciding to go on a big shopping trip and giving yourself a budget, but instead of just taking that amount of money you decide instead to only allow yourself to pay with £5 notes, but you can take as many as you're willing to take. The logic being that because you'll have to take more than if you were using larger notes or cards you won't want to carry as many, and you won't want to buy things that are so expensive because it'll take longer to count out the right amount of notes. It could work, but you could also go way, way over your budget.
If it works for you and you want to do it then go for it, I just know if I was on that diet and believed that as long as I stuck to its rules I would lose weight then I'd be like @Alatariel75 and eating 1000+ calories each meal.
That's why I added the usda myplate rule. If you fill half the plate with non starchy veggies then you can't screw it up too far, well, me at least.
Yeah, that makes it better... but I still recon it would be easy to go over. Let's say you have 2 sausages as your protein for breakfast (220 calories), a pork chop for your protein at lunch (500 calories) and a pie for your protein and starch at dinner (550 calories), an avocado for your veg one meal (322 calories), you're already at 1592 (which is already above maintenance for me), and that's not taking into account the rest of the meal parts I haven't mentioned. I know some people might say you probably wouldn't be eating a big meal every meal, but I know if I could never snack I would be absolutely ravenous before each meal and would certainly want the biggest meal I could fit on my plate.
Also, what about fruit? How does that fit in? Are you allowed it?
I can totally understand not wanting to upset your mum, but if this diet doesn't work for you I feel like educating her might be a better approach. Also how would your mum know what you're eating anyway? Do you live with her?0 -
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SkinnyMiss053 wrote: »I've decided that I'm going to do the NoS diet to appease my mom, because she thinks counting calories lead to eating disorders. (Past experience with my sister)
NoS goes like this: NoSnacks, NoSeconds, NoSweets, except "sometimes" on days that start with S. (The creator added the "sometimes" to remind you to not be an idiot on S days and eat a whole gallon of ice cream hehehe) So basically, you're eating 3 meals a day on this diet.
In addition to ensure I am indeed in a caloric deficit, and to ensure I get good nutrition from those three meals, I will also use the USDA MyPlate rule, which means 1/2 the plate is filled with vegetables, 1/4 with protein and 1/4 with starch.
I think this plan will fit effortlessly into my life and I'm hoping it will put my mom at ease as well. Opinions?
Your profile indicates you are 22. The bolded part is alarming.
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SkinnyMiss053 wrote: »
on days beginning with an S
no mention of portion control, healthy choices
just no seconds, sweets or snacks
and it comes in a book
fad !0 -
SkinnyMiss053 wrote: »
on days beginning with an S
no mention of portion control, healthy choices
just no seconds, sweets or snacks
and it comes in a book
fad !
Looks pretty portion controlled to me excuse my half eaten lunch.0 -
SkinnyMiss053 wrote: »SkinnyMiss053 wrote: »
on days beginning with an S
no mention of portion control, healthy choices
just no seconds, sweets or snacks
and it comes in a book
fad !
Looks pretty portion controlled to me excuse my half eaten lunch.
Fact is, though - you're applying your own logic and knowledge to the fad diet. It doesn't make the base diet itself any less of a fad. You're just smart enough to eat non-starchy veg and lean meats.0 -
SkinnyMiss053 wrote: »SkinnyMiss053 wrote: »
on days beginning with an S
no mention of portion control, healthy choices
just no seconds, sweets or snacks
and it comes in a book
fad !
Looks pretty portion controlled to me excuse my half eaten lunch.
That's very .. beige :bigsmile:
Where are the vegetables and carbs? Hoping they are in your stomach0 -
SkinnyMiss053 wrote: »SkinnyMiss053 wrote: »
on days beginning with an S
no mention of portion control, healthy choices
just no seconds, sweets or snacks
and it comes in a book
fad !
Looks pretty portion controlled to me excuse my half eaten lunch.
That's very .. beige :bigsmile:
Where are the vegetables and carbs? Hoping they are in your stomach
Indeed, I had a potato, and the big half was filled up with carrots and green beans.0 -
I have actually tried to do this diet not to lose weight but to stop my habit of snacking and grazing. It don't think it's a fad diet at all, it is actually how people in a lot of other cultures eat.
For me it didn't work though for weight loss. I have heard of a lot of people who have had success with it though.
The No S Diet has their own support forum, I would check it out. This is a calorie counting forum so you aren't really going to a lot of support for a completely different way of eating.0 -
You can lose weight without counting calories. I think people like to count calories because it gives them more control and an ability to estimate how much they will lose. I see no reason to think it leads to eating disorders. I expect that a person with disordered thinking could have disordered thinking no matter what method they use to reduce intake or increase activity. I saw a show on OCD that had a woman on there that spent most of her day on a treadmill, because she was afraid she would gain weight.0
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SkinnyMiss053 wrote: »I'll give it a go. My mom said I can lose however I want as long as I don't count calories. And I added: or do stupid cleanses and detoxes.
Why? I've lost over 150 pounds by eating smaller portions & counting calories. Sure there was a time where I was binging & restricting for a few months which could've led to an eating disorder, but I stopped it in its tracks.
All you need to do to lose weight technically is eat in a deficit, but if you're not accurately tracking your calories or weighing your food then you could maintain or gain.
Really you need to find what works for you. Just remember that you could fill your three plates up with healthier foods like veggies, fruits, lean meats, grains, etc. but just know that you can just as easily gain weight by overeating healthier foods as you can junk foods. To be successful in weight loss you have to want to do it for yourself & not because someone is basically holding a gun at your head forcing you to.0 -
TimothyFish wrote: »You can lose weight without counting calories. I think people like to count calories because it gives them more control and an ability to estimate how much they will lose. I see no reason to think it leads to eating disorders. I expect that a person with disordered thinking could have disordered thinking no matter what method they use to reduce intake or increase activity. I saw a show on OCD that had a woman on there that spent most of her day on a treadmill, because she was afraid she would gain weight.
I think that people who have eating disorders from counting calories already have thoughts of disordered eating or had problems with eating disorders in the past.0 -
Frankly - it sounds ridiculous.
I really don't understand why people try to complicate something is so beautiful in its simplicity with so many random and unnecessary rules.
I mean if it works for you, great...I've got no issues with it. But I'm a big proponent of K I S S0 -
SkinnyMiss053 wrote: »I've decided that I'm going to do the NoS diet to appease my mom, because she thinks counting calories lead to eating disorders. (Past experience with my sister)
NoS goes like this: NoSnacks, NoSeconds, NoSweets, except "sometimes" on days that start with S. (The creator added the "sometimes" to remind you to not be an idiot on S days and eat a whole gallon of ice cream hehehe) So basically, you're eating 3 meals a day on this diet.
In addition to ensure I am indeed in a caloric deficit, and to ensure I get good nutrition from those three meals, I will also use the USDA MyPlate rule, which means 1/2 the plate is filled with vegetables, 1/4 with protein and 1/4 with starch.
I think this plan will fit effortlessly into my life and I'm hoping it will put my mom at ease as well. Opinions?
So, your mother's opinion based on her experience with one person outweighs information based on millions of successful people? You are asking for opinions, so I will give you mine. 1/4 of plate for a portion of protein can give you a lot of calories, depending on what kind of meat you choose. Same with starch (pasta, etc). No mention of what you are topping said starch with. Since you are going into this with absolutely no idea what your caloric needs for a day are, you are set up for two possible scenarios: overeating and undereating. Quite unlikely that you'll be able to accurately guess what you need for a deficit to lose weight safely or maintain.
You will find this not sustainable. you need to do what's right for you (not what your mother wants - you're an adult).0 -
Oh right... you were the OP from http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10153004/counting-calories-eating-disorder/p1
I don't think you should be doing anything to appease your mom. There doesn't seem to be a very healthy relationship with food going on in your household.
It's your body, eat what and when you want. Not sure why at 22 you're letting your mom dictate your diet... but that's just me.0 -
This is the plate you'll be using, right?
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To succeed at this, you need to be willing to make your own decision about what is best for you. How you manage your weight is not up to your mom.
The truth is, the No S diet sounds OK. It's not magic and equally as likely to create problems as calorie counting is. You are more likely and more easily going to lose weight through calorie counting because calories are what count for weight loss. You can lose weight eating according to myplate and limiting sweets (I lost 40 pounds previously that way), but honestly, I am so glad I decided to count calories this time because it gives me more awareness, focus, clarity, and flexibility.0
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