Not losing weight (with running)?

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  • kami3006
    kami3006 Posts: 4,979 Member
    edited May 2015
    giki18 wrote: »
    astrampe wrote: »
    Go see a doctor, if you are really eating that little and not losing any weight, something is wrong that only a medical professional can deal with.....And down with the aggression and snarkyness, that is just childish.....

    I do apologize for the behavior (rather rude of me, eh?) I just was expecting more people who had been running like I have, maybe some of those who had also done c25k and had possibly tried c210k who were going to give their input and had also found themselves in the same boat. Not one person has truly given something I *personally* (others may) see as truly helpful. All just stuff I already know and have been around the block with. I've asked my mother about it (personal trainer, nutritionist) and my father (pro bodybuilder, nutritionist, becoming certified as a personal trainer soon), and all 4 of the personal trainers I've been through about my appetite already and after checking through my diet they've all just come to the conclusion that it's just my body. I guess I was just expecting more answers related to the exercise not the diet. I do apologize for being rude though it was uncalled for.


    I run three times a week for 3 miles. I eat back 3/4 of the calories burned according to my heart rate monitor which gives me 300 cal for 30 minutes. It contributes to my calorie deficit slightly but my weight loss was from weighing my food and keeping my calorie intake in a specific deficit range. I lost weight doing this before I started running and my rate of losing has remained consistent after adding running. I have been heavy lifting for months now and it too has not increased the rate in which I lose as I still stay at a specific deficit.

    Regardless of exercise, if you don't know how much you're eating, you cannot know how to make the changes you need to hit the goal you want. You can run miles a day but if between that and food you are still over your maintenance, you'll gain.

    Even if you don't want to weigh for an extended period of time, you should at least do it for a couple weeks as it is usually a real eye opener. Watch the video posted earlier.
  • giki18
    giki18 Posts: 14 Member
    Me thinks you are eating more than you are admitting to yourself. Unless you are a very small person, you would be losing a lot of weight if all you're eating is 600 calories. Since you are also running, you need to be eating significantly more than that, or you could do yourself harm. Could it be that you are recording the calories for single servings when you are actually eating multiple servings?
    Yes when i was running, on a day of running for an hour which is about 7 miles I can take in 3,000 and i was a size 4!!! I wasn't losing weight just minting I could have if i cut back. I was very toned.
    If your smaller than this idk its weird some people never eat and they look it, some people eat lot and they DONT look like it. If you don't like to eat as much try incorporating some of the yummier foods you love or try eating light salads with a home made vinagretter (lots of ideas online on how to make them easy and delish) then having a salad won't fill you up but will get you the much needed nutrients, antioxidants. Have you tried intervals or suicides where you run as fast as you humanly possibly can for 10 seconds and walk and repeat 10 times…switching things up greatlyhelps-you get rally motivated is the best perk.

    Thank you so much for the advice, it's nice to hear from another runner! Will definitely have to try it. Have you ever tried those mason jar salads? I'm scared they'll break in my bag but they look so good I might take the risk >.< AND AN HOUR?! I'm about dying at the 15min mark! Hope I can get to that someday, it'd be nice to try and ACTUALLY do a 5k one day XD
  • RedArizona5
    RedArizona5 Posts: 465 Member
    edited May 2015
    Mr_Knight wrote: »
    3bambi3 wrote: »
    DMLC2014 wrote: »
    You should be eating around 1600 calories per day. When you eat less you put your body into starvation mode which you body wants to store fats. You need to feed your body everyday!
    3bambi3 wrote: »
    DMLC2014 wrote: »
    You should be eating around 1600 calories per day. When you eat less you put your body into starvation mode which you body wants to store fats. You need to feed your body everyday!

    Absolute nonsense. You don't gain weight eating too few calories. Examples: holocaust victims, anorexics, starving children in Africa.

    When I read both statements it meant the same thing just stated…differently-am I missing something?
    DML wrote [sic}…eating less puts you into starvation mode[sic}
    3bambi3 wrote Nonsense{sic} you don't gain weight eating too few calories and gave example yet thats what Dm said and yet…its nonsense-now I'm def. confused because it sounds the SAME lol


    No. It's not confusing. Someone stated that eating too few calories made you gain weight. I said it's nonsense. Because it is. You don't gain weight eating in a deficit.
    3bambi3 wrote: »
    DMLC2014 wrote: »
    You should be eating around 1600 calories per day. When you eat less you put your body into starvation mode which you body wants to store fats. You need to feed your body everyday!
    3bambi3 wrote: »
    DMLC2014 wrote: »
    You should be eating around 1600 calories per day. When you eat less you put your body into starvation mode which you body wants to store fats. You need to feed your body everyday!

    Absolute nonsense. You don't gain weight eating too few calories. Examples: holocaust victims, anorexics, starving children in Africa.

    When I read both statements it meant the same thing just stated…differently-am I missing something?
    DML wrote [sic}…eating less puts you into starvation mode[sic}
    3bambi3 wrote Nonsense{sic} you don't gain weight eating too few calories and gave example yet thats what Dm said and yet…its nonsense-now I'm def. confused because it sounds the SAME lol

    No. It's not confusing. Someone stated that eating too few calories made you gain weight. I said it's nonsense. Because it is. You don't gain weight eating in a deficit.

    Hm now I see it, but your body can go through starvation mode and store fats -no?

    No.
    Why do i here people saying that if your not losing weight and eating not enough your body is holding onto everything it can because the muscle is being eaten away so you think your losing weight but its muscle loss and if the person who is living this way ends up binging because they have underfed their body then they begin to binge and you gain more weight then before because there is no muscle to burn anything off-the fat keeps collecting…I'm not explaining myself correctly-i think. Or am i-someone please tell me they have heard of this. Its what we tell people who eat too little and aren't losing weight. so weird

    So maybe i am misunderstanding the concept of starvation mode? I am genuinely asking
  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
    edited May 2015
    giki18 wrote: »
    astrampe wrote: »
    Go see a doctor, if you are really eating that little and not losing any weight, something is wrong that only a medical professional can deal with.....And down with the aggression and snarkyness, that is just childish.....

    I do apologize for the behavior (rather rude of me, eh?) I just was expecting more people who had been running like I have...

    I run, a lot.

    Bottom line - you're eating more than you think.
  • brianpperkins
    brianpperkins Posts: 6,124 Member
    giki18 wrote: »
    astrampe wrote: »
    Go see a doctor, if you are really eating that little and not losing any weight, something is wrong that only a medical professional can deal with.....And down with the aggression and snarkyness, that is just childish.....

    I do apologize for the behavior (rather rude of me, eh?) I just was expecting more people who had been running like I have, maybe some of those who had also done c25k and had possibly tried c210k who were going to give their input and had also found themselves in the same boat. Not one person has truly given something I *personally* (others may) see as truly helpful. All just stuff I already know and have been around the block with. I've asked my mother about it (personal trainer, nutritionist) and my father (pro bodybuilder, nutritionist, becoming certified as a personal trainer soon), and all 4 of the personal trainers I've been through about my appetite already and after checking through my diet they've all just come to the conclusion that it's just my body. I guess I was just expecting more answers related to the exercise not the diet. I do apologize for being rude though it was uncalled for.

    The basics of science do not vary from person to person. The amount you claim to eat is in the disordered range and if you actually ate that little you would lose weight with or without running. You wouldn't maintain the energy to run on that little intake. Things just don't add up. It is impossible to gain weight on the type deficit you claim to have before exercise ... never mind with the exercise you claim to do.

    3bambi3 wrote: »
    DMLC2014 wrote: »
    You should be eating around 1600 calories per day. When you eat less you put your body into starvation mode which you body wants to store fats. You need to feed your body everyday!
    3bambi3 wrote: »
    DMLC2014 wrote: »
    You should be eating around 1600 calories per day. When you eat less you put your body into starvation mode which you body wants to store fats. You need to feed your body everyday!

    Absolute nonsense. You don't gain weight eating too few calories. Examples: holocaust victims, anorexics, starving children in Africa.

    When I read both statements it meant the same thing just stated…differently-am I missing something?
    DML wrote [sic}…eating less puts you into starvation mode[sic}
    3bambi3 wrote Nonsense{sic} you don't gain weight eating too few calories and gave example yet thats what Dm said and yet…its nonsense-now I'm def. confused because it sounds the SAME lol

    No. It's not confusing. Someone stated that eating too few calories made you gain weight. I said it's nonsense. Because it is. You don't gain weight eating in a deficit.
    3bambi3 wrote: »
    DMLC2014 wrote: »
    You should be eating around 1600 calories per day. When you eat less you put your body into starvation mode which you body wants to store fats. You need to feed your body everyday!
    3bambi3 wrote: »
    DMLC2014 wrote: »
    You should be eating around 1600 calories per day. When you eat less you put your body into starvation mode which you body wants to store fats. You need to feed your body everyday!

    Absolute nonsense. You don't gain weight eating too few calories. Examples: holocaust victims, anorexics, starving children in Africa.

    When I read both statements it meant the same thing just stated…differently-am I missing something?
    DML wrote [sic}…eating less puts you into starvation mode[sic}
    3bambi3 wrote Nonsense{sic} you don't gain weight eating too few calories and gave example yet thats what Dm said and yet…its nonsense-now I'm def. confused because it sounds the SAME lol

    No. It's not confusing. Someone stated that eating too few calories made you gain weight. I said it's nonsense. Because it is. You don't gain weight eating in a deficit.

    Hm now I see it, but your body can go through starvation mode and store fats -no?

    How do you propose a body store fats when they are needed for energy due to a lack of intake? Where do the newly stored calories come from in your paradigm?
  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
    edited May 2015
    Mr_Knight wrote: »
    3bambi3 wrote: »
    DMLC2014 wrote: »
    You should be eating around 1600 calories per day. When you eat less you put your body into starvation mode which you body wants to store fats. You need to feed your body everyday!
    3bambi3 wrote: »
    DMLC2014 wrote: »
    You should be eating around 1600 calories per day. When you eat less you put your body into starvation mode which you body wants to store fats. You need to feed your body everyday!

    Absolute nonsense. You don't gain weight eating too few calories. Examples: holocaust victims, anorexics, starving children in Africa.

    When I read both statements it meant the same thing just stated…differently-am I missing something?
    DML wrote [sic}…eating less puts you into starvation mode[sic}
    3bambi3 wrote Nonsense{sic} you don't gain weight eating too few calories and gave example yet thats what Dm said and yet…its nonsense-now I'm def. confused because it sounds the SAME lol


    No. It's not confusing. Someone stated that eating too few calories made you gain weight. I said it's nonsense. Because it is. You don't gain weight eating in a deficit.
    3bambi3 wrote: »
    DMLC2014 wrote: »
    You should be eating around 1600 calories per day. When you eat less you put your body into starvation mode which you body wants to store fats. You need to feed your body everyday!
    3bambi3 wrote: »
    DMLC2014 wrote: »
    You should be eating around 1600 calories per day. When you eat less you put your body into starvation mode which you body wants to store fats. You need to feed your body everyday!

    Absolute nonsense. You don't gain weight eating too few calories. Examples: holocaust victims, anorexics, starving children in Africa.

    When I read both statements it meant the same thing just stated…differently-am I missing something?
    DML wrote [sic}…eating less puts you into starvation mode[sic}
    3bambi3 wrote Nonsense{sic} you don't gain weight eating too few calories and gave example yet thats what Dm said and yet…its nonsense-now I'm def. confused because it sounds the SAME lol

    No. It's not confusing. Someone stated that eating too few calories made you gain weight. I said it's nonsense. Because it is. You don't gain weight eating in a deficit.

    Hm now I see it, but your body can go through starvation mode and store fats -no?

    No.
    Why do i here people saying that if your not losing weight and eating not enough your body is holding onto everything it can...

    Walk into the right room and you can here people saying the earth is 6000 years old and dinosaurs and humans shared caves. The world is full of well-intentioned people who have no idea what they're talking about.

    Eating too little results in weight loss - always, and guaranteed. Do it too long, and it'll even kill you.

  • fatcity66
    fatcity66 Posts: 1,544 Member
    kami3006 wrote: »

    Oh good, I'm glad someone else noticed.
  • shadow2soul
    shadow2soul Posts: 7,692 Member
    edited May 2015
    giki18 wrote: »
    astrampe wrote: »
    Go see a doctor, if you are really eating that little and not losing any weight, something is wrong that only a medical professional can deal with.....And down with the aggression and snarkyness, that is just childish.....

    I do apologize for the behavior (rather rude of me, eh?) I just was expecting more people who had been running like I have...

    Umm, why are you making the assumption that these posters don't run?

    I run and lift heavy weights. My average intake is close to 2000 normally and that's a day. I haven't finished the C25k program I was doing. Actually I started week 7 on Monday, but on Wed I ran 3.07 miles without stopping. So just short 0.03 miles or so short of a 5k. Anyway point is, I still lose weight. So yep, I agree with the others that there is a 98% chance that you are eating more than you think (2% for undiagnosed medical issues).
  • brendak76
    brendak76 Posts: 241 Member
    edited May 2015
    I've run 2 marathons and 5 half marathons and gained weight training for all of them. Because I didn't weigh my food. Running made me more hungry than any other exercise I've done. And I was eating WAY more than I thought I was when I weighed my food and saw the truth.

    I've switched to walking because it doesn't make me ravenously hungry and I am meticulously counting calories. I've lost 8 pounds in 2 months which is a lot for a 5'2 petite female with not much to lose.

    I'm more concerned about your parents telling you 600 calories a day is ok and you feeling nauseous all the time. That would warrant a trip to the dr and I don't think any nutritionist would advocate for 600 calories a day especially your own parents.

  • giki18
    giki18 Posts: 14 Member
    If anyone would like to give me some types of tips, alternatives, etc like @RedArizona5 I'd appreciate it. Stuff that I can do to work around the obvious elephant in the forum. I'm not going to binge myself till I throw up. I'm sorry but that's a pain that I'd rather just avoid. Eating slowky until I'm full is the way I'll go just like I have been. Thank you to everyone, truly, for their input, it's just not what I was originally looking for when I opened this thread. Practically being called a stupid liar was one of the main reasons that I had stepped away from MFP in the first place. I'm not sorry that I have a smaller stomach than some of you. I wasn't looking for dietary advice really and maybe I should have made it more clear when I first posted this. I know what I eat, this isn't my first rodeo so you all can say I'm full of *kitten* or I don't know my own body but I DO. I've had this body my
    whole life this appetite hasn't changed. I've had a normal (and sadly a little on the overweight) BMI my entire life. (Even those things are basically *kitten*) I'm pretty normal for my age and for my height and I'm actually pretty muscular! I'm just looking for more exercise related answers and thank you to the few of those who have given that. Should have made that more clear
  • brianpperkins
    brianpperkins Posts: 6,124 Member
    Nobody can give you recommendations on how to reach your goal weight as long as you tell us you somehow remain at an overweight BMI while eating 600ish calories a day ... then exercise away a significant portion of that. That might not be what you want to hear, but it is reality.
  • arditarose
    arditarose Posts: 15,573 Member
    giki18 wrote: »
    If anyone would like to give me some types of tips, alternatives, etc like @RedArizona5 I'd appreciate it. Stuff that I can do to work around the obvious elephant in the forum. I'm not going to binge myself till I throw up. I'm sorry but that's a pain that I'd rather just avoid. Eating slowky until I'm full is the way I'll go just like I have been. Thank you to everyone, truly, for their input, it's just not what I was originally looking for when I opened this thread. Practically being called a stupid liar was one of the main reasons that I had stepped away from MFP in the first place. I'm not sorry that I have a smaller stomach than some of you. I wasn't looking for dietary advice really and maybe I should have made it more clear when I first posted this. I know what I eat, this isn't my first rodeo so you all can say I'm full of *kitten* or I don't know my own body but I DO. I've had this body my
    whole life this appetite hasn't changed. I've had a normal (and sadly a little on the overweight) BMI my entire life. (Even those things are basically *kitten*) I'm pretty normal for my age and for my height and I'm actually pretty muscular! I'm just looking for more exercise related answers and thank you to the few of those who have given that. Should have made that more clear

    So then the answer is you are not running enough to create a calorie deficit large enough to lose weight.
  • giki18
    giki18 Posts: 14 Member

    So then the answer is you are not running enough to create a calorie deficit large enough to lose weight. [/quote]

    Thanks for an exercise related answer. Do you think running LONGER could help?
  • brianpperkins
    brianpperkins Posts: 6,124 Member
    The "advice" the OP liked was somebody saying they ate 3000 calories on seven mile run days ... which she counters by saying she can't/won't eat that much. That doesn't leave much room for advice.
  • 3bambi3
    3bambi3 Posts: 1,650 Member
    You want exercise related advice? Okay.

    Run more to create an actual calorie deficit. And also probably start lifting so you don't lose all that muscle you claim to have

    I'm not trying to be snarky, but what you are saying you are doing is literally impossible. Unless you are very wee. Like, smaller than a hobbit.
  • Emilia777
    Emilia777 Posts: 978 Member
    edited May 2015
    giki18 wrote: »

    Thanks for an exercise related answer. Do you think running LONGER could help?

    That depends on by how much you’re over-eating. But since we can’t find that out, it’s not a question anyone can answer.
  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
    giki18 wrote: »
    I'm about dying at the 15min mark!

    There is no way you're burning 400+ calories running if you are "dying at the 15 minute mark".

    Whether you want to believe it or not, the reality is your eating and burning numbers are completely screwed up.

  • giki18
    giki18 Posts: 14 Member
    The "advice" the OP liked was somebody saying they ate 3000 calories on seven mile run days ... which she counters by saying she can't/won't eat that much. That doesn't leave much room for advice.

    Sir if you are going to be unapologetically rude and create a negative environment please leave as there is no need for you to be here.
  • arditarose
    arditarose Posts: 15,573 Member
    Emilia777 wrote: »
    giki18 wrote: »

    Thanks for an exercise related answer. Do you think running LONGER could help?

    That depends on by how much you’re over-eating. But since we can’t find that out, it’s not a question anyone can answer.

    This.

    Personally, I didn't lose weight until I focused less on running and more on my diet. Not that there is anything wrong with running but yeah, steady state 3 mile runs weren't doing anything for my weight loss. Cardiovascular health, sure.