Not losing weight (with running)?

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  • 3bambi3
    3bambi3 Posts: 1,650 Member
    Hi..
    I am a runner. I might be able to help address why running and weight loss don't always make sense together.

    The first thing to beware of is that you are calculating that you burn 430 calories in 30 minutes running. I am here to tell you that unless you are Kara Goucher you are not running fast enough to burn that many calories. Figure 100 calories per mile for a 130 pound female runner or walker. Most national class women athletes run fast enough to burn 430 calories in 30 minutes only when they are racing at their hardest.

    The next thing about running is that to run well you need carbs and if you run depleted - hungry...your body trains itself to avoid being depleted and you are training yourself to store more glycogen in your muscles. This stored glycogen binds with water and is very heavy. It isn't fat...but it sure can mess with the scale. Lots of elite women runners are surprisingly heavy for as tiny as they are. Your body is also getting better at burning fat so you are getting leaner...less fat.

    There are other changes that are going on that can lead to weight gain for a runner. For example it is getting warmer out. Your body cools itself during running through circulating more blood around. The volume of blood increases for warm weather running.

    There is also a tendency for exercisers to over- eat their calories back.

    Wait, what? Are you saying your body has more blood during warmer temperatures? Or am I misunderstanding. Do you have a source for that?

    No snark, I'm legit curious as I've always thought blood volume in the body was mostly constant.
  • zoeysasha37
    zoeysasha37 Posts: 7,088 Member
    giki18 wrote: »
    Mr_Knight wrote: »
    giki18 wrote: »
    {No more replies needed}

    That's not really how forums work.

    :wink:

    Well as the OP who has publicly announced they no longer need any more advice any polite person can continue a private conversation elsewhere
    :wink:

    You asked for help op, and people tried to help you. You are eating more then you think. People don't gain weight eating 4000 calories per week. That's just ridiculous. Secondly, you are in a public forum so it's not up to you as to when people should stop replying. Don't get upset that you didn't get the answers that you expected, but you got the truth!! Get some professional help if you really think your stomach is so small that you can't eat normally. (Start weighing your foods and you'll be shocked. Guaranteed your eating more then you think.your not a special snowflake)
  • kami3006
    kami3006 Posts: 4,979 Member
    Apparently exercising consistently in warm weather does increase blood volume as a method of cooling. . This is just one of many articles I found in a quick glance. Many of them are peer reviewed. http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/experts-body-wieght-ambient-temperature/
  • 3bambi3
    3bambi3 Posts: 1,650 Member
    kami3006 wrote: »
    Apparently exercising consistently in warm weather does increase blood volume as a method of cooling. . This is just one of many articles I found in a quick glance. Many of them are peer reviewed. http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/experts-body-wieght-ambient-temperature/

    Thank you! :) This airplane wifi made googling impossible.
  • SherryTeach
    SherryTeach Posts: 2,836 Member
    If blood volume increases when you are hot, why don't I weigh more in the summer since it's 120˚ where I live?
  • SergeantSausage
    SergeantSausage Posts: 1,673 Member
    edited May 2015
    giki18 wrote: »
    I eat 4020 calories a week (eat the same thing everyday so this never truly changes) And when I run (30min) I burn usually 430cal


    BWAAAAAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHA <breathe> ahhhahhahhhhhhhhhaaa.....

    Yer funny, right.


    HINT: You'd be dead in about 3 months if this were true.
  • kami3006
    kami3006 Posts: 4,979 Member
    edited May 2015
    It has to do with consistent training in the heat not just being in the heat or sporadic workouts in the heat.
  • yirara
    yirara Posts: 9,984 Member
    kami3006 wrote: »
    It has to do with consistent training in the heat not just being in the heat or sporadic workouts in the heat.

    Seriously? I've been living in the heat (up to 120F in summer) and exercising outside for over a year now, and my blood count doesn't show anything abnormal in that respect. Well.. it showed I had a serious case of macrocytic anemia, but no increase in blood for sure. The doc (when I finally found one who actually noticed it!) said that many people are anemic here. But that's probably related to poor diet than anything else. Very little B12 anyway, though in my case it's an absorption problem.
  • kami3006
    kami3006 Posts: 4,979 Member
    yirara wrote: »
    kami3006 wrote: »
    It has to do with consistent training in the heat not just being in the heat or sporadic workouts in the heat.

    Seriously? I've been living in the heat (up to 120F in summer) and exercising outside for over a year now, and my blood count doesn't show anything abnormal in that respect. Well.. it showed I had a serious case of macrocytic anemia, but no increase in blood for sure. The doc (when I finally found one who actually noticed it!) said that many people are anemic here. But that's probably related to poor diet than anything else. Very little B12 anyway, though in my case it's an absorption problem.
    I was just answering the question for another poster since the topic was brought up in this thread. I am no expert on it and was just doing my own reading on it. There are a good number of peer reviewed articles on this and it seems to be an accepted function of the body. There are however many conditions that apply. I found it interesting.
  • charlieandcarol
    charlieandcarol Posts: 302 Member
    yirara wrote: »
    kami3006 wrote: »
    It has to do with consistent training in the heat not just being in the heat or sporadic workouts in the heat.

    Seriously? I've been living in the heat (up to 120F in summer) and exercising outside for over a year now, and my blood count doesn't show anything abnormal in that respect. Well.. it showed I had a serious case of macrocytic anemia, but no increase in blood for sure. The doc (when I finally found one who actually noticed it!) said that many people are anemic here. But that's probably related to poor diet than anything else. Very little B12 anyway, though in my case it's an absorption problem.

    Pathology blood tests don't tell you anything about the volume of your blood, only how much of a particular component per a a particular volume unit (decl, ml ect depending on the test) or as a percentage. Blood volume is usually kept withing a range by your body depending upon hydration, hormonal fluctuations, trauma, inflammation and infection plus a heap of other stuff.
  • coreyreichle
    coreyreichle Posts: 1,031 Member
    giki18 wrote: »
    3bambi3 wrote: »
    giki18 wrote: »
    3bambi3 wrote: »
    giki18 wrote: »
    Are you counting calories? How many calories are you eating? How many are you burning? Is your logging accurate (are you creating your own recipes and weighing everything you eat)?

    If you're not losing weight you are not eating a calorie deficit. Eat less calories than your body uses and you will lose weight. It's nearly impossible to exercise off a bad diet.

    I eat 4020 calories a week (eat the same thing everyday so this never truly changes) And when I run (30min) I burn usually 430cal

    You eat less than 600 calories a day?!!

    It truly depends on the day, and whether or not I eat dinner but 600 is the base for those same foods I always eat. For some reason I get full really fast and I can't eat a lot. Sometimes I try to force myself to eat more (usually if it's something REALLY good XD) but I feel really sick and immediately regret it

    If you were really eating that little, you'd be losing weight. And if your goal is to eat that little, you need to educate yourself and knock it off. It's dangerous and you will harm your body.

    I try to eat more (I'm not stupid I'm pretty sure everyone here has passed a middle school health class) I just feel sick to my stomach and nauseous whenever I try to eat a lot of food. My little yogurt and box of raisins is enough to hold me from 3pm to 5 the next morning I'm just never hungry. Not everyone has the same body and can shove 2k + calories down their throat in one day. And like I said, it really depends on if I eat some type of dinner or not because some days I'm more hungry than other days. *kitten*, at that time of the month I could eat non-stop. I'm not a health expert, if I were I'd be solving my own problems not coming here, I just need answers of why nothing is working for me, not getting belittled because my stomach can't hold as much as the next guy's.


    If this is truly the case, you need to see a doctor. There is something likely wrong, and possibly a blockage of some sort. Everybody can consume 2000 kcals in a day, minimally, if not more.

    For serious: See a physician.
  • NoIdea101NoIdea
    NoIdea101NoIdea Posts: 659 Member
    giki18 wrote: »
    3bambi3 wrote: »
    giki18 wrote: »
    3bambi3 wrote: »
    giki18 wrote: »
    Are you counting calories? How many calories are you eating? How many are you burning? Is your logging accurate (are you creating your own recipes and weighing everything you eat)?

    If you're not losing weight you are not eating a calorie deficit. Eat less calories than your body uses and you will lose weight. It's nearly impossible to exercise off a bad diet.

    I eat 4020 calories a week (eat the same thing everyday so this never truly changes) And when I run (30min) I burn usually 430cal

    You eat less than 600 calories a day?!!

    It truly depends on the day, and whether or not I eat dinner but 600 is the base for those same foods I always eat. For some reason I get full really fast and I can't eat a lot. Sometimes I try to force myself to eat more (usually if it's something REALLY good XD) but I feel really sick and immediately regret it

    If you were really eating that little, you'd be losing weight. And if your goal is to eat that little, you need to educate yourself and knock it off. It's dangerous and you will harm your body.

    I try to eat more (I'm not stupid I'm pretty sure everyone here has passed a middle school health class) I just feel sick to my stomach and nauseous whenever I try to eat a lot of food. My little yogurt and box of raisins is enough to hold me from 3pm to 5 the next morning I'm just never hungry. Not everyone has the same body and can shove 2k + calories down their throat in one day. And like I said, it really depends on if I eat some type of dinner or not because some days I'm more hungry than other days. *kitten*, at that time of the month I could eat non-stop. I'm not a health expert, if I were I'd be solving my own problems not coming here, I just need answers of why nothing is working for me, not getting belittled because my stomach can't hold as much as the next guy's.


    If this is truly the case, you need to see a doctor. There is something likely wrong, and possibly a blockage of some sort. Everybody can consume 2000 kcals in a day, minimally, if not more.

    For serious: See a physician.

    I second this. You're either exaggerating terribly, or need to see a doctor.
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