Meal Replacement Shakes
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Charisma_Black wrote: »No I didn't come on for that crap I came on here to ask people if they were doing a similar plan and how it works for them and I understand everyone's opinion of doing the plan will be different. From what I've learnt from this forum is that people are very nasty.
Not nasty. Honest.
This is a public forum. Everyone on here is entitled to share what they think about what you are asking about. If you do not want to hear what anyone of these people have to say, go to a private forum, start a group, or join an existing group.
ETA: I'll be watching for the mean people thread.0 -
Thanks @Steph38878 much appreciated
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OP, as other posters have said, it's not a sustainable way to lose weight on it's own. However, if you like it and it's working for you, how about devoting some of the time you are saving on meal prep to learning about long term weight maintenance and trying out new recipes for your non-MR meals? That way, you will know what you need to do when you're ready to stop using the shakes.
There is nothing magical about the shakes, but as long as they are balanced, there is nothing inherently wrong with them either. They are convenient and can help to reduce overall calorie intake without much effort. It's all about what you do to maintain, and the downside to most of the programs is they don't teach you that, so you have to learn it yourself. You may even find that you are able to stop using the shakes well before you reach your goal weight, once you have a good grasp on how to reduce calories without them.
Meal replacement shakes wouldn't be my first choice for losing weight (though I use them for quick meals on the go and to balance out my macros), but they can work IF you commit yourself to transitioning to a sustainable calorie controlled diet in the long term.0 -
Charisma_Black wrote: »No I didn't come on for that crap I came on here to ask people if they were doing a similar plan and how it works for them and I understand everyone's opinion of doing the plan will be different. From what I've learnt from this forum is that people are very nasty.
So getting angry and defensive towards people who were asking genuine questions and actually trying to be helpful is the answer here?
You are on a calorie counting website. We are all trying to eat sensibly, learn proper portions, and live our lives while enjoying everything in moderation. Not a lot of people on here advocate meal replacement shakes because: 1) they do not teach you portion control, 2) many of them are sold through MLM-type schemes at extremely high prices, 3) a calorie deficit can be achieved simply by eating less food that what you ate before.
Also, we are all busy. If you were able to eat actual, solid food before you started losing weight, then you can just eat less of the actual, solid food and lose weight. It's not that hard, and you would actually save money by not forking over tons of money to the diet shake companies. Which, by the way, getting your money is their ultimate goal - not making you lose weight.
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Charisma_Black wrote: ». From what I've learnt from this forum is that people are very nasty.
Unfortunately very true. I don't understand it either. We come here either asking for or offering opinions and get shredded by people who attack you for it.0 -
Meal replacements teach you NOTHING on how to actually structure eating habits. They also have one of the highest weight regain. Makes sense because again, it shows you nothing on how to eat correctly once you stop. Unless you're planning to do it for the rest of your life, consider just learning how to portion and limit your calories through actually eating your meals.
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^This is exactly why I never saw progress while I was using the Slim Fast diet. What little weight I managed to get off would come right back on as soon as I quit the program. Plus, they tasted terrible, but I suppose that's a comment for another thread.
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Snack replacement? Smoothies are often snacks, especially during the spring and summer. Just say no to meal replacements and all fad diets. Moderation in all things. Period.0
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Charisma_Black wrote: ». From what I've learnt from this forum is that people are very nasty.
Unfortunately very true. I don't understand it either. We come here either asking for or offering opinions and get shredded by people who attack you for it.
Leave the persecution complex at the door. Did you read the thread? The only person on this thread who attacked others' opinions was the OP.0 -
Charisma_Black wrote: ». From what I've learnt from this forum is that people are very nasty.
Unfortunately very true. I don't understand it either. We come here either asking for or offering opinions and get shredded by people who attack you for it.
It's internet anonymity. Also, text leaves out the context of a person's tone. Sometimes, things seem harsher than they are meant to be. I think rhetoric plays a big part as well. Sometimes, the thought itself is genuine but the way it's written out can seem a little too blunt and... rough, if you will.0 -
I have done the shake replacement method before. it works. The key is to reintegrate food back properly and then wean off the shakes and maintain.
I did Optifast about 7 years ago ---- dropped 55 pounds. I was able to keep it all offf --- went from 4 shakes a day to 3 and 1 meal, to 2 and 2 meals, to 1 and 3 meals, and then weaned off. It stayed off until i started travelling for work and started ignoring my calories.
Some people need a drastic method to kick start things and show them that it really is possible to lose a ton of weight, and then keep it off. Those same people (myself included) need alot of encouragement, and NOT alot of being told "you are wrong"
People need to remember --- no persons weight loss journey is identical to absolutely everyone elses. We all have root issues on why we gained weight --- maybe emotional issues, stress, family, portion control, etc. We are all motivated different, and quit/give up differently.
If it works for you --- go for it. Just honestly don't solely do it to lose the weight. Incorporate it as part of a plan to get fit. Add in exercise, portion control for your non shake meals, proper logging and you should do just fine.
I went from barely being able to rollerblade to rollerblading 10 miles a day when I took the weight off ---- that was motivation enough to keep it off, and then start enjoying the cheat meals (chicken wings and beer are my poison!
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I just can't believe the nastiness more than anything to be honest. Very disheartening.0
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Charisma_Black wrote: »I just can't believe the nastiness more than anything to be honest. Very disheartening.
Not one person has been nasty toward you. Not ONE.0 -
Charisma_Black wrote: ». From what I've learnt from this forum is that people are very nasty.
Unfortunately very true. I don't understand it either. We come here either asking for or offering opinions and get shredded by people who attack you for it.
You know what I find to be nasty? The constant derogatory comments that those of us who post here regularly are nasty/mean/horrible/trolls/bullies/etc. In every single thread these days. The attempts to denigrate the regular posters here creates a far nastier atmosphere than the comments in this thread have so far.
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@rivertree69 People need to remember --- no persons weight loss journey is identical to absolutely everyone elses. We all have root issues on why we gained weight --- maybe emotional issues, stress, family, portion control, etc. We are all motivated different, and quit/give up differently.
If it works for you --- go for it. Just honestly don't solely do it to lose the weight. Incorporate it as part of a plan to get fit. Add in exercise, portion control for your non shake meals, proper logging and you should do just fine.
Thank you for this ^ It's so true.0 -
Meal replacements teach you NOTHING on how to actually structure eating habits. They also have one of the highest weight regain. Makes sense because again, it shows you nothing on how to eat correctly once you stop. Unless you're planning to do it for the rest of your life, consider just learning how to portion and limit your calories through actually eating your meals.
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No one has been nasty to you, OP. Disagreeing with something or trying to steer you to a more sustainable plan is not being nasty.
Apparently we should just all pat OP's buts no matter what they're doing.
"Congrats on your loss! Keep up the 800-calorie diet!"
"Totally keep doing that juice cleanse, OP! The hair loss and hemorrhoids are normal! Your body is purging toxins!"
"Shakeology is the GREATEST ever! You'll have your beach body in no time for sure! Bankruptcy isn't so bad!"0 -
FTR - I think that was meant sarcastically.0 -
Charisma_Black wrote: »I just can't believe the nastiness more than anything to be honest. Very disheartening.
It's only nasty because that's how you choose to interpret the responses.
"Bad things do happen; how I respond to them defines my character and the quality of my life." -Walter Anderson0 -
Lol, I give an opinion (which is statistically correct) and somehow it's being "nasty" to the OP. Not like I haven't had this same conversation with hundreds of other members of gyms asking the same question. It wasn't mean, but actual advice on how you might be able to save yourself some trouble due to the fact that weight regain from replacements are high. It's NOT like I don't have experience since I've been doing this for at least 17 years professionally.
As I mentioned in another thread, the issue with people who post and get a disagreement tend to take it as a personal attack against them, when intern it's not.
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because this has become nearly a daily occurrence.0 -
LOL. I love how everyone has completely ignored my post.
@ninerbuff you have been doing this 17 years. You know as well as everyone else that people fail for various reasons. I'm sure you've seen a variety of people succeed and a variety of people fail. What about the "secret eaters", the "emotional eaters", etc?
I believe some people need a kick in the *kitten* --- and thats often what meal replacements do. it doesn't *replace* the fact the person needs to learn portion control and proper nutrition, but if it helps kickstart someone who has had problems doing that their whole life, I say go for it.
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rivertree69 wrote: »LOL. I love how everyone has completely ignored my post.
You are back here losing weight again...so it didn't work to begin with. Not much else to discuss really.
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chivalryder wrote: »I'm dong a meal replacement program. However, I'm not wasting my money on something like that. I make my own shakes at home.
Costs me $5.80/day.
But I'm doing it because my budget doesn't allow for real foods. Food is too expensive. If I could afford to buy what you're buying, I'd be eating real food. Any purchased "plan" is a waste of money.
I don't mean to hijack this thread, but are you consuming only shakes? Do they have any fibre in them?
If they don't, dried beans and plain oats are pennies a serving and will help you get the fibre you need. Brown rice is cheap if you buy the large bags and it lasts for months. A bag of pinto beans for under $7 and change provides over 100 servings at 6.9cents per with 5g of fibre and 7g of protein per serving. Combine it with a cup of rice at $3.68 for 54 servings (6.8 cents), and mixed stir-fry vegetables for 8.81 per 5.5 lb bag (29 cents) and you have a decent, filling meal for just over 50 cents.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Great-Value-Pinto-Beans-8-Lb/10314949
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Iberia-Long-Grain-Brown-Rice-5-lb/20574654
http://www2.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11004580&search=frozen stir-fry vegetables
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OP only thanks the ones who are telling her what she wants to hear.
Everyone who thinks the shakes may not be the best idea is being nasty.
Never change, MFP.0 -
MakePeasNotWar wrote: »chivalryder wrote: »I'm dong a meal replacement program. However, I'm not wasting my money on something like that. I make my own shakes at home.
Costs me $5.80/day.
But I'm doing it because my budget doesn't allow for real foods. Food is too expensive. If I could afford to buy what you're buying, I'd be eating real food. Any purchased "plan" is a waste of money.
I don't mean to hijack this thread, but are you consuming only shakes? Do they have any fibre in them?
If they don't, dried beans and plain oats are pennies a serving and will help you get the fibre you need. Brown rice is cheap if you buy the large bags and it lasts for months. A bag of pinto beans for under $7 and change provides over 100 servings at 6.9cents per with 5g of fibre and 7g of protein per serving. Combine it with a cup of rice at $3.68 for 54 servings (6.8 cents), and mixed stir-fry vegetables for 8.81 per 5.5 lb bag (29 cents) and you have a decent, filling meal for just over 50 cents.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Great-Value-Pinto-Beans-8-Lb/10314949
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Iberia-Long-Grain-Brown-Rice-5-lb/20574654
http://www2.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11004580&search=frozen stir-fry vegetables
I'm getting 17+g of fibre per day.0 -
rivertree69 wrote: »LOL. I love how everyone has completely ignored my post.
You are back here losing weight again...so it didn't work to begin with. Not much else to discuss really.
LOL. It worked while I lead a healthy maintenance lifestyle. As soon as I was on a plane every week and drinking scotch in first class along with hotel food, I gained some back. No where near all, and I learned what was wrong and what was right. The point being, who are you to judge what some people need to motivate them? Had I *not* learned through the process that I could lose weight (ie, seeing it in a mirror), I highly doubt I would have had any motivation to try.
Some people need a good kick in the pants this way.
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MakePeasNotWar wrote: »chivalryder wrote: »I'm dong a meal replacement program. However, I'm not wasting my money on something like that. I make my own shakes at home.
Costs me $5.80/day.
But I'm doing it because my budget doesn't allow for real foods. Food is too expensive. If I could afford to buy what you're buying, I'd be eating real food. Any purchased "plan" is a waste of money.
I don't mean to hijack this thread, but are you consuming only shakes? Do they have any fibre in them?
If they don't, dried beans and plain oats are pennies a serving and will help you get the fibre you need. Brown rice is cheap if you buy the large bags and it lasts for months. A bag of pinto beans for under $7 and change provides over 100 servings at 6.9cents per with 5g of fibre and 7g of protein per serving. Combine it with a cup of rice at $3.68 for 54 servings (6.8 cents), and mixed stir-fry vegetables for 8.81 per 5.5 lb bag (29 cents) and you have a decent, filling meal for just over 50 cents.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Great-Value-Pinto-Beans-8-Lb/10314949
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Iberia-Long-Grain-Brown-Rice-5-lb/20574654
http://www2.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11004580&search=frozen stir-fry vegetables
Good suggestions.0
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