Logging everything and still gaining ! GRRRR...
BambiKing2
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I lost one pound the first week... now that I started logging breastfeeding I'm gaining ;(( I stay at around 1200 calories and nurse my daughter many times a day. My Dr suggested 1800-2000 calories and that I would still lose however that is not the case. Idk what to do!! I log everything! !! I'm so frustrated HELP
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Could you open your food diary? It might help troubleshooting.0
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Can't see your diary; are you measuring/weighing everything accurately?0
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Simply logging alone doesn't equate to losing weight. How accurately are you logging? Are you eyeballing portions and using measuring cups, but not a food scale? Are you eating back your calories from breastfeeding? If you're truly at 1,200 calories, you'll lose. Heck, I'd argue that you can eat more than 1,200 calories and still lose, provided that you're accurate. Good luck!0
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Either you are not accurately logging your food (underestimating what you're eating, or your exercise (overestimating your calorie burns).0
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No one can really help troubleshoot if your diary is closed.0
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Did you start a new exercise program? Doing so can result in a temporary weight gain because of water retention needed to help your muscles recover. Also, don't use just the scale to measure your progress. Take measurements of your body and pictures as it is quite possible to lose inches and not have the pounds come off for even fairly long periods of time, but if the inches are coming off you are losing fat.0
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MakePeasNotWar wrote: »No one can really help troubleshoot if your diary is closed.
It is doubtful that anyone can troubleshoot if it is open, either. Looking at what someone has logged isn't going to tell you if they logged it correctly, or if they left something out.0 -
TimothyFish wrote: »MakePeasNotWar wrote: »No one can really help troubleshoot if your diary is closed.
It is doubtful that anyone can troubleshoot if it is open, either. Looking at what someone has logged isn't going to tell you if they logged it correctly, or if they left something out.
So true. Only the person doing the logging knows how accurate they are being with it. It's very easy to forget to log, to not realize that even that 70 calorie Oreo snitched from the pantry before dinner counts, or to purposefully not log things because one is ashamed to put it into writing.
OP, if you aren't losing weight then you aren't eating fewer calories than you are burning. It is almost always as simple as that. If you aren't using a kitchen scale to weigh your food, start. It can be really eye opening.0 -
TimothyFish wrote: »MakePeasNotWar wrote: »No one can really help troubleshoot if your diary is closed.
It is doubtful that anyone can troubleshoot if it is open, either. Looking at what someone has logged isn't going to tell you if they logged it correctly, or if they left something out.
if you see someone using generic entries and cups then yes it can help, as you know they are not logging accurately.
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When you increase your calories the scale will temporarily go up. That's your glycogen stores replenishing. It will even out and go away. Since you are breastfeeding, you need to eat enough to maintain your milk supply. Follow your doctor's advice. That's why he/she is a doctor. Even LLL recommends a MINIMUM of 1800 calories for breastfeeding mothers.
I'm going to go with glycogen replenishment and not giving it enough time for this one. But of course, having more information would be more helpful, to be honest. How long have you been eating more calories? What are your stats? Can you open your diary? Are you weighing your food? All of these things would be helpful to know.0 -
How many weeks are you talking about.
I get the impression you have been logging for 2-3 weeks which isn't really long enough to claim you aren't losing or gaining.
How much are you gaining? 1 pound? 10 pounds? Could be water weight?0 -
TimothyFish wrote: »MakePeasNotWar wrote: »No one can really help troubleshoot if your diary is closed.
It is doubtful that anyone can troubleshoot if it is open, either. Looking at what someone has logged isn't going to tell you if they logged it correctly, or if they left something out.
True, but occasionally there is an obvious error that more experienced users can recognize, like a food item with erroneous calories or exercise calories that are way off. I recall one poor soul who was routinely logging 1000 calories for an hour of walking (from an HRM or fitness watch or something) and eating most of them back.0 -
TimothyFish wrote: »MakePeasNotWar wrote: »No one can really help troubleshoot if your diary is closed.
It is doubtful that anyone can troubleshoot if it is open, either. Looking at what someone has logged isn't going to tell you if they logged it correctly, or if they left something out.
if you see someone using generic entries and cups then yes it can help, as you know they are not logging accurately.
^^ that
i see it all the time (we all do), and yes, i think to some extent we all take our own shortcuts, but those of us (yourself included TimothyFish) who are successful in losing weight, generally know what we are doing and if we have issues in our weight, where we need to focus and pay attention to.0 -
That happened to me before. Try measuring your food. Also, maybe have your thyroid checked. Some women develop issues during and after pregnancy with their thyroid.0
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What do you mean by logging your breastfeeding?0
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You're doing a great job on breastfeeding - hope you're enjoying it. 600 cals is what I was told you burn while feeding which I guess is where the 1800 minimum comes from (1200+600) but there's a lot of sitting around snacking too (or there is here!). Why not give it a few weeks of careful logging of what you eat and drink, and try to increase your activity level and see what happens. I only joined because I wanted to look at my macros and track my activity and I've been astonished at how many empty calories I was eating without really noticing, and how little I did on some days despite 'running around' after little ones. Good luck!0
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Liftng4Lis wrote: »What do you mean by logging your breastfeeding?
I was curious about that too. Figured it was misworded or secret women's business.
Sounds like she logs food in and breast feeding out but that would be silly.0 -
Some women don't lose weight while breastfeeding. Your body will hold on to the weight to be able to feed your child. I did not lose any weight at all the whole 16 months I breastfed. Plus I was starving the entire time, I don't even know how you're doing it only eating 1200 calories, lol. I suggest not worrying about it too much, up your cal's to 1800, make sure you're drinking plenty of water, and continue nursing your babe! Your milk supply is more important at this point.0
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Are you weighing your foods with a food scale? If not, get one asap.weighing food and Logging accurately takes work, but it's the only way to get the best estimates of what your really consuming.
Are you counting your breastfeeding as exercise? I may have read your post incorrectly so please clarify .0 -
Liftng4Lis wrote: »What do you mean by logging your breastfeeding?
I was curious about that too. Figured it was misworded or secret women's business.
Sounds like she logs food in and breast feeding out but that would be silly.
I have actually seen it written that breastfeeding adds about 600 calories per day to a woman's calorie burn. It takes energy to produce milk.
I agree that at this point, having an adequate milk supply is much more important than losing a few pounds. Focus on your baby's health for awhile. Besides, stress can cause problems with weight loss and so can a lack of sleep. As a new mother, I'm sure both of those things are an issue for you. Take away one stressor by letting go of the weight loss attempts for now.0 -
Liftng4Lis wrote: »What do you mean by logging your breastfeeding?
I was curious about that too. Figured it was misworded or secret women's business.
Sounds like she logs food in and breast feeding out but that would be silly.
excuse me...
Logging breast feeding is a negative calorie adjustment as it takes appx 300-500 calories a day to produce good quality milk. You have to add that to your intake to adjust for it...0 -
TimothyFish wrote: »MakePeasNotWar wrote: »No one can really help troubleshoot if your diary is closed.
It is doubtful that anyone can troubleshoot if it is open, either. Looking at what someone has logged isn't going to tell you if they logged it correctly, or if they left something out.
if you see someone using generic entries and cups then yes it can help, as you know they are not logging accurately.
exactly this...or if you see an entry for 4 oz of chicken for 100 calories...
Just because you can't @TimothyFish doesn't mean others are in the same boat.0 -
BambiKing2 wrote: »I lost one pound the first week... now that I started logging breastfeeding I'm gaining ;(( I stay at around 1200 calories and nurse my daughter many times a day. My Dr suggested 1800-2000 calories and that I would still lose however that is not the case. Idk what to do!! I log everything! !! I'm so frustrated HELP
Your ticker says you've lost 9 pounds. That's losing weight.
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TimothyFish wrote: »MakePeasNotWar wrote: »No one can really help troubleshoot if your diary is closed.
It is doubtful that anyone can troubleshoot if it is open, either. Looking at what someone has logged isn't going to tell you if they logged it correctly, or if they left something out.
You can tell when someone is using generic entries as opposed to weights.
At least that is a starting place when someone asks for help. 0 -
TimothyFish wrote: »MakePeasNotWar wrote: »No one can really help troubleshoot if your diary is closed.
It is doubtful that anyone can troubleshoot if it is open, either. Looking at what someone has logged isn't going to tell you if they logged it correctly, or if they left something out.
if you see someone using generic entries and cups then yes it can help, as you know they are not logging accurately.
exactly this...or if you see an entry for 4 oz of chicken for 100 calories...
Just because you can't @TimothyFish doesn't mean others are in the same boat.
The assumption there is that the generic entries are somehow less accurate than those with a brand name attached. The farmer who is shipping beans to Bush's may well be shipping to Del Monte, or at the very least, two farmers may be buying from the same seed company and it is unlikely that the label on the can is going to change based on which field the beans come from.0 -
TimothyFish wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »MakePeasNotWar wrote: »No one can really help troubleshoot if your diary is closed.
It is doubtful that anyone can troubleshoot if it is open, either. Looking at what someone has logged isn't going to tell you if they logged it correctly, or if they left something out.
if you see someone using generic entries and cups then yes it can help, as you know they are not logging accurately.
exactly this...or if you see an entry for 4 oz of chicken for 100 calories...
Just because you can't @TimothyFish doesn't mean others are in the same boat.
The assumption there is that the generic entries are somehow less accurate than those with a brand name attached. The farmer who is shipping beans to Bush's may well be shipping to Del Monte, or at the very least, two farmers may be buying from the same seed company and it is unlikely that the label on the can is going to change based on which field the beans come from.
That's not what we mean by "generic" entries, actually. At least it's not what I mean when I use the term for food entries. It's logging the "medium banana" instead of 4 ounces of banana. Or to follow your example "Beans - Baked, home, prepared, 1 cup."
How do you prepare your baked beans? Some people use a lot more sugar than others. How many beans are in a cup? What's the bean to sauce ratio? The calorie amounts can vary and since most people have a tendency to underestimate, using entries like that can easily add up to a couple hundred calories each day if it's being done with calorie dense foods. Take someone with a very small calorie deficit (because they don't have much weight to lose) and that type of logging can easily result in eating at maintenance rather than a deficit.0 -
TimothyFish wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »MakePeasNotWar wrote: »No one can really help troubleshoot if your diary is closed.
It is doubtful that anyone can troubleshoot if it is open, either. Looking at what someone has logged isn't going to tell you if they logged it correctly, or if they left something out.
if you see someone using generic entries and cups then yes it can help, as you know they are not logging accurately.
exactly this...or if you see an entry for 4 oz of chicken for 100 calories...
Just because you can't @TimothyFish doesn't mean others are in the same boat.
The assumption there is that the generic entries are somehow less accurate than those with a brand name attached. The farmer who is shipping beans to Bush's may well be shipping to Del Monte, or at the very least, two farmers may be buying from the same seed company and it is unlikely that the label on the can is going to change based on which field the beans come from.
what?
I am not talking about the word generic...I am talking about user entered entries that are wrong. Did you not read what I responded or did you just jump without really paying attention?
There are USDA entries and user entries and I've seen some pretty bad user entries...the 4oz of chicken is just an example I have seen in a diary and had to correct them on it...0 -
Where in the heck did you come up with that bean theory?TimothyFish wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »MakePeasNotWar wrote: »No one can really help troubleshoot if your diary is closed.
It is doubtful that anyone can troubleshoot if it is open, either. Looking at what someone has logged isn't going to tell you if they logged it correctly, or if they left something out.
if you see someone using generic entries and cups then yes it can help, as you know they are not logging accurately.
exactly this...or if you see an entry for 4 oz of chicken for 100 calories...
Just because you can't @TimothyFish doesn't mean others are in the same boat.
The assumption there is that the generic entries are somehow less accurate than those with a brand name attached. The farmer who is shipping beans to Bush's may well be shipping to Del Monte, or at the very least, two farmers may be buying from the same seed company and it is unlikely that the label on the can is going to change based on which field the beans come from.
Generic entries are those that are not entered into a diary via weight. An incorrect entry is one such as Stephanie mentioned--the wrong calorie count for a certain amount of food. Both of these types of entries are disaster , and prevalent in the database.
Always research food at the USDA website, read packages, and if there is not entry according to weight, enter it in.0 -
Liftng4Lis wrote: »What do you mean by logging your breastfeeding?
I was curious about that too. Figured it was misworded or secret women's business.
Sounds like she logs food in and breast feeding out but that would be silly.
excuse me...
Logging breast feeding is a negative calorie adjustment as it takes appx 300-500 calories a day to produce good quality milk. You have to add that to your intake to adjust for it...
Fair enough. I didn't think it would be so high. I would have thought that it would be small enough to ignore.
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TimothyFish wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »MakePeasNotWar wrote: »No one can really help troubleshoot if your diary is closed.
It is doubtful that anyone can troubleshoot if it is open, either. Looking at what someone has logged isn't going to tell you if they logged it correctly, or if they left something out.
if you see someone using generic entries and cups then yes it can help, as you know they are not logging accurately.
exactly this...or if you see an entry for 4 oz of chicken for 100 calories...
Just because you can't @TimothyFish doesn't mean others are in the same boat.
The assumption there is that the generic entries are somehow less accurate than those with a brand name attached. The farmer who is shipping beans to Bush's may well be shipping to Del Monte, or at the very least, two farmers may be buying from the same seed company and it is unlikely that the label on the can is going to change based on which field the beans come from.
I can't tell if you are doing this on purpose or if you really lack this much knowledge ...0
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