vegan diet vs high protein diet

zeroh13

runmama411 wrote: »

I was a vegan for a bit. You can get plenty of daily protein eating animal-free, but you're going to have to plan, cook, and prepare foods wayyyy more. You must not ever forget that without animal protein, you have to create the complete proteins with your food combinations. Just eating vegetables and carbs ain't gonna cut it. This was my downfall. Meat still grosses me out, but I'm ok with chicken and fish and eat it now. Just read up beforehand and add a B12 supplement to your life. Also, I would check out the cookbook "Isa Does It" for delicious vegan recipes or the Post-Punk Kitchen website.

Exactly. You can be vegan with a high protein diet. It doesn't have to be one or the other. If this is something you are interested in, there are resources out there to help you.

psuLemon

Considering the OP stating that they probably would stuggle with a meatless life, vegan os probably not an ideal lifestyle for them. And they really need an eating style that can be sustainable.

What i found out about myself is i cant follow a protocol that restricts foods or carbs. When i restrict foods i binge and when i restrict carbs i get light headed and dizzy. So what might be ideal for the OP is to start with tracking calories (with a food scale for accuracy) and then work on getting more protein (around 80g) and find a solid progressive weight training program (NROL4W, SL 5x5, Strong Curves).

Justygirl77

psulemon wrote: »

Justygirl77 wrote: »

Yes, CICO is the wrong focus. It has in mind the one-dimensional goal of the number on the scale. If that is all you are wanting is a lower number on the scale, then by all means EAT WHATEVER YOU WANT AS LONG AS IT FITS IN YOUR CALORIES.

CICO is an energy balance equation not a diet lifestyle. Also, what you are probably referring to, without a full understanding, is IIFYM. Either way, no one in this thread will tell the OP to just eat junk food. What we would say ia there is no reason for the OP to choose a lifestyle but she should focus on getting nutrient dense foods, adequate protein (can be from meats or other sources), and start a solid lifting routine. Since the OP is borderline underweight, she should probably work on a recomp or potentially bulk to work on adding muscle and filling in her skin.


Also, IRT blood sugar, the average person doesn't have an issue with regulating it so bringing that into the equation is just not helpful and way over complicating things.

Exactly. CICO is an equation, not a type of diet.

You don't know if you have a problem with sugar.....until you test it!!!!

How can you not choose a lifestyle, and yet...eat nutrient dense foods, adequate protein and engage in a solid lifting routine,......do these things just happen naturally?

Yes, OP needs to get her numbers straight.

Justygirl77

psulemon wrote: »

Considering the OP stating that they probably would stuggle with a meatless life, vegan os probably not an ideal lifestyle for them. And they really need an eating style that can be sustainable.

What i found out about myself is i cant follow a protocol that restricts foods or carbs. When i restrict foods i binge and when i restrict carbs i get light headed and dizzy. So what might be ideal for the OP is to start with tracking calories (with a food scale for accuracy) and then work on getting more protein (around 80g) and find a solid progressive weight training program (NROL4W, SL 5x5, Strong Curves).

What I would like to suggest is that the symptoms that result from lowering carbs/sugar, or from removing certain foods like dairy or grains or sugars....those symptoms can very well be the result of withdrawal.
I pulled dairy, grains, fruit and sugar from my diet all at once, and lowered my carbs to 50g or less Net Carbs/day. I had withdrawal symptoms for a week....fatigue, migraine, etc.
But after that time, I had energy, freedom from cravings, and total control over my food choices, and could choose the foods that really help me achieve my goals without bingeing and ruining my own progress.
I have been doing this diet without cheating even once since March 20th.
No hunger (except normal appetite, or late night hunger....i'm on a deficit so of course). It wouldn't be necessary to remove those foods all at once, it could happen more gradually (like remove one type of food at a time), but I just cut off the whole tail at once lol, and that worked out okay for me.