Cabbage soup diet
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Victoria5639 wrote: »Just got in some bad eating habits and wanted to get bowels cleansed and get refine sugar out of my system so I could get back on track.
Going to try to make it very easy for you
IT DOESNT DO ANY OF THAT. IT IS A CRAZY UNSUSTAINABLE VERY LOW CAL DIET. BAD BAD IDEA0 -
I make the soup now and again. I ignore the diet part.0
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I make the soup now and again. I ignore the diet part.
Makes sense. I've never tried the soup, but if people like it and want to eat it as PART of their diet, that's fine. I remember Weight Watchers had a "zero point" veggie soup that was pretty good. But they don't advocate eating nothing but the soup.
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Victoria5639 wrote: »
Sugar out of my system and a good bowel cleansingTavistockToad wrote: »Victoria5639 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Victoria5639 wrote: »is anyone doing this I started yesterday.
Hw long are you planning on doing it for?
Just for one week doing it for cleansing more than anythin(
What exactly are you trying to cleanse?
UM...0 -
YAY! Another sugar-is-the-debbil thread!
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snickerscharlie wrote: »YAY! Another sugar-is-the-debbil thread!
Well it has been at least 10 minutes since the last one...
OP, what happens after soup week?0 -
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booksandchocolate12 wrote: »I make the soup now and again. I ignore the diet part.
Makes sense. I've never tried the soup, but if people like it and want to eat it as PART of their diet, that's fine. I remember Weight Watchers had a "zero point" veggie soup that was pretty good. But they don't advocate eating nothing but the soup.
Yes. I have the recipe. It is called "Unlimited Soup" and is basically tomato juice, beef stock and non-starchy veggies like mushrooms, bean sprouts, and celery. You could add cabbage, diced tomatoes, etc. without bumping the calories too much. It actually is nice to have something you can eat a big bowl of with very little calorie expenditure if you feel like pigging out. You also cannot eat hot soup too fast either so the cravings can subside before you do too much damage.
RE: "Sugar out of my system and a good bowel cleansing". If you feel you need to eat less sugar, eat less sugar. You don't need to "cleanse it" because it is already converted to glycogen within a short time of eating it so there is already no longer sugar in your system. As for the bowels, go with my 3 "F" cleanse: eat more fat and fiber and drink more fluids and let the bowels do their job. Granted, cabbage soup will help with the fiber and fluids but eating that exclusively will not because you are not getting the fat you need.
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RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »I LOVE cabbage, but I prefer mine fried with bacon lardons and garlic.
Me too!0 -
Victoria5639 wrote: »
Sugar out of my system and a good bowel cleansingTavistockToad wrote: »Victoria5639 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Victoria5639 wrote: »is anyone doing this I started yesterday.
Hw long are you planning on doing it for?
Just for one week doing it for cleansing more than anythin(
What exactly are you trying to cleanse?
Victoria,
But, you system needs sugar to survive. Even diabetics need sugar in their system, they just can't eat as much sugar/carbs as those without diabetes. So, there is no reason to clean sugar out of your system.
A good bowel cleansing comes from eating enough fiber in general.0 -
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Will I eat at a calorie DEFICIT forever? No. Will I generally eat at or below maintenance because I've learned that VLCDs as well as high Calorie are unhealthy? Yes.
And I didn't need to live off my great grandmothers cabbage soup for 5 meals a day.0 -
Are YOU going to eat at a deficit for the rest of your life?
I hope not, because that would mean that I haven't gotten to my goal.
The plan is to eat at a deficit until I get to my ideal weight, and then eat at maintenance. By that time I will have learned good eating habits, and will be aware of what foods have the most bang for their caloric buck, what foods keep me satisfied, etc.
What does one learn after eating nothing but cabbage soup for days/weeks on end?
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booksandchocolate12 wrote: »Are YOU going to eat at a deficit for the rest of your life?
I hope not, because that would mean that I haven't gotten to my goal.
The plan is to eat at a deficit until I get to my ideal weight, and then eat at maintenance. By that time I will have learned good eating habits, and will be aware of what foods have the most bang for their caloric buck, what foods keep me satisfied, etc.
What does one learn after eating nothing but cabbage soup for days/weeks on end?
Or it means you're going to die.
As will we all.
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booksandchocolate12 wrote: »booksandchocolate12 wrote: »Are YOU going to eat at a deficit for the rest of your life?
I hope not, because that would mean that I haven't gotten to my goal.
The plan is to eat at a deficit until I get to my ideal weight, and then eat at maintenance. By that time I will have learned good eating habits, and will be aware of what foods have the most bang for their caloric buck, what foods keep me satisfied, etc.
What does one learn after eating nothing but cabbage soup for days/weeks on end?
Or it means you're going to die.
As will we all.
I will live forever.0 -
Have had a positive beginning with cabbage soup diet. For me helped me get into a better mind frame since I'm a major carbs person. It help me because you actually eat a lot so don't feel hungry and see loss even if it's mostly water weight it helped get me into a better mind set that after a week just went to eating balance meals more often just less carbs and fewer calories.0
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turtlesoup1957 wrote: »Have had a positive beginning with cabbage soup diet. For me helped me get into a better mind frame since I'm a major carbs person. It help me because you actually eat a lot so don't feel hungry and see loss even if it's mostly water weight it helped get me into a better mind set that after a week just went to eating balance meals more often just less carbs and fewer calories.
You know what helped me cut down on my carbs? Making sure I meet my protein macro. You will naturally eat fewer carbs.
But carbs are not bad for you. I am a runner and I make sure I get adequate carbs as well.0 -
flyingtanuki wrote: »Brings back childhood memories. In our house, we had this giant white pot and mom would put a couple of quarts of sauerkraut, the bone and leftovers from a ham, and any old vegetables in the refrigerator and cook it up. Fed a family of four for a week on about a buck. They used to call it "kapusta soup". Only available when we had a ham bone - which was usually after Christmas or Easter.
It was a highly sustainable dietary pattern, since if we refused to eat it, my dad would beat us.
LMAO! In our house, it was my mom and a huge wooden spoon. Good times!0 -
Yup, I did the cabbage soup diet in the 80s when I needed to lose 10 pounds to get into the military. The recruiter gave me that one plus one that revolved around bananas. Set me up for a lifetime of yoyoing. Ironically, the weight standard was changed while I was in the military and I would not have had to lose that first 10 pounds after all if had been changed a few years earlier.0
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Ok, I must admit I have always wondered this....
What if, someone goes on a VLCD for a couple of weeks and loses 5 or 10 lbs (water, fat whatever). After that 2 weeks is up they swap over to the same deficit, but with real food. If they meticulously count their calories, like most of us do, who's to say they'll put the weight the weight back on?
Or what if they stay on the diet for 6mths and lost all their weight, then swapped over to maintenance calories, again meticulously counting their calories.
People have said "but you haven't learnt how to eat properly, or how to eat real food" etc etc
Seriously? Aren't the people on the site grown adults who if using some common sense know precisely what they should or should not eat??0 -
christinev297 wrote: »Ok, I must admit I have always wondered this....
What if, someone goes on a VLCD for a couple of weeks and loses 5 or 10 lbs (water, fat whatever). After that 2 weeks is up they swap over to the same deficit, but with real food. If they meticulously count their calories, like most of us do, who's to say they'll put the weight the weight back on?
Or what if they stay on the diet for 6mths and lost all their weight, then swapped over to maintenance calories, again meticulously counting their calories.
People have said "but you haven't learnt how to eat properly, or how to eat real food" etc etc
Seriously? Aren't the people on the site grown adults who if using some common sense know precisely what they should or should not eat??
That's precisely the problem with fad diets like the cabbage soup diet. They sell the gimmick, but not how to change behavior long term. So, assuming someone sticks with the plan until they hit their target weight, there's very little good advice for getting to a sustainable maintenance pattern. People go back to their old habits and start packing on weight again.
If someone went on a VLCD, then swapped to a "real food" diet at the same deficit, they'd probably be shocked at how small the portions have to be to sustain that level. I doubt the cabbage soup diet even introduced the concept of TDEE or maintenance for people who actually succeeded in sticking to that plan.
So, yes, grown adults should be able to use common sense to know what they should eat and how much of it, but there is a lot of mis-information out there which is what people who peddle fad diets use to make their money.0 -
Yeah, I should have also written "how much to eat".
With the cabbage soup, you can eat a lot of it for very few calories and feel very satisfied. I suppose if you compared the calories and amount of soup to say a steak and chips, one would be very disappointed lol
In the end, I know I'm not going to lose weight eating a bag of chips, nuts and pudding every night after dinner , or having monstrous servings of pasta like i used tor. I guess it comes down to common sense, honesty and a fair bit of willpower0 -
Victoria5639 wrote: »
Sugar out of my system and a good bowel cleansingTavistockToad wrote: »Victoria5639 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Victoria5639 wrote: »is anyone doing this I started yesterday.
Hw long are you planning on doing it for?
Just for one week doing it for cleansing more than anythin(
What exactly are you trying to cleanse?
You know you can't get rid of the sugar in your blood - and it's supposed to be there - and that your "bowels" will fill up again, and again - every time you eat?
Don't you even start to wonder why everybody doesn't "cleanse", always?0 -
Russian Sweet & Sour Cabbage Soup is supper yummy... Diet though? You realize this site is about lifestyle changes, not get thin quick schemes.0
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I make a very nice bacon egg and cheese taco that comes in under 200 cal. I could write a book that tells people how they can have up to 6 tacos a day and lose weight, maybe throw in a "hibiscus tea cleanse" for good measure. Delicious miracle egg tacos that melt fat away! Come up with some hocus pocus about protein and fat combining to with the tea to grab toxins from the body and flush them away....make a mint!
Of course, I personally would get extremely tired of the monotony of eating only tacos and hibiscus tea, myself. I'd start dreading the smell of bacon crisping and green onions sizzling, knowing I've got another taco on the plate coming my way. I'd hit my target goal and immediately reach for a big juicy burger and a big hunk of sweet cherry pie!
No, too much of any one thing is a surefire recipe for hating every minute between now and my goal.0
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