Should I eliminate aspartame from my life? My Doctor says yes!
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christinev297 wrote: »I'm definitely not anti vaccinations! More harm than good (if any) comes from not vaccinating our kids.
In fact, our government is bringing in a law that if welfare recipients don't vaccinate their children, then their benefits will be slashed to a pittance!
When did vaccinations enter the discussion?
Edit: found the comment... Please proceed.0 -
MercuryBlue wrote: »That's thechristinev297 wrote: »Call me a conspiracy theorist, but don't coca cola et al use bucket loads of aspartame in their products? ?
Are research facilities going to go up against these Billion dollar companies and tell the public that their products are dangerous or harmful...
That's the exact same logic anti-vaxxers use, and it's the reason why kids are dying in first-world countries of preventable diseases. If the science isn't there to support it, I don't believe it. In this case, it's not even a matter of "we don't know because there haven't been enough studies done"; to the contrary, people have actively been studying the effects of aspartame for over three decades now and STILL haven't found it to be harmful. If that's not convincing enough, I don't know what is.
Besides, people have been talking about how Coca Cola and the like is bad for you for decades; it's hardly being sold as a health product (unless you count all the Vitamin Water BS) . There's no hush-hush secret agenda there. These companies sell diet products as a calorie-free alternative to their sugar-filled products, so they can appeal to a wider customer base. It's as simple as that. When the conspiracy theorists say "aspartame is bad!" and they get bad press, they just start making their diet products with Splenda instead. If production cost goes up as a result, they just raise their prices.
Galgenstrick it was mentioned in the above post
Edited after seeing your Edit
I just do NOT want to come across as some health food, anti chemicals nazi. I don't have problems with any foods or drinks, other than aspartame. it just sticks in my throat for some reason...
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christinev297 wrote: »MercuryBlue wrote: »That's thechristinev297 wrote: »Call me a conspiracy theorist, but don't coca cola et al use bucket loads of aspartame in their products? ?
Are research facilities going to go up against these Billion dollar companies and tell the public that their products are dangerous or harmful...
That's the exact same logic anti-vaxxers use, and it's the reason why kids are dying in first-world countries of preventable diseases. If the science isn't there to support it, I don't believe it. In this case, it's not even a matter of "we don't know because there haven't been enough studies done"; to the contrary, people have actively been studying the effects of aspartame for over three decades now and STILL haven't found it to be harmful. If that's not convincing enough, I don't know what is.
Besides, people have been talking about how Coca Cola and the like is bad for you for decades; it's hardly being sold as a health product (unless you count all the Vitamin Water BS) . There's no hush-hush secret agenda there. These companies sell diet products as a calorie-free alternative to their sugar-filled products, so they can appeal to a wider customer base. It's as simple as that. When the conspiracy theorists say "aspartame is bad!" and they get bad press, they just start making their diet products with Splenda instead. If production cost goes up as a result, they just raise their prices.
Galgenstrick it was mentioned in the above post
Thanks, I missed that post earlier. I edited my post above!0 -
I don't think you come across that way. It makes me feel like crap, like I mentioned above + I don't even like the flavor. There's not much evidence (if any) that shows it's harmful, however I avoid it nonetheless.christinev297 wrote: »MercuryBlue wrote: »That's thechristinev297 wrote: »Call me a conspiracy theorist, but don't coca cola et al use bucket loads of aspartame in their products? ?
Are research facilities going to go up against these Billion dollar companies and tell the public that their products are dangerous or harmful...
That's the exact same logic anti-vaxxers use, and it's the reason why kids are dying in first-world countries of preventable diseases. If the science isn't there to support it, I don't believe it. In this case, it's not even a matter of "we don't know because there haven't been enough studies done"; to the contrary, people have actively been studying the effects of aspartame for over three decades now and STILL haven't found it to be harmful. If that's not convincing enough, I don't know what is.
Besides, people have been talking about how Coca Cola and the like is bad for you for decades; it's hardly being sold as a health product (unless you count all the Vitamin Water BS) . There's no hush-hush secret agenda there. These companies sell diet products as a calorie-free alternative to their sugar-filled products, so they can appeal to a wider customer base. It's as simple as that. When the conspiracy theorists say "aspartame is bad!" and they get bad press, they just start making their diet products with Splenda instead. If production cost goes up as a result, they just raise their prices.
Galgenstrick it was mentioned in the above post
Edited after seeing your Edit I just do NOT want to come across as some health food, anti chemicals nazi. I don't have problems with any foods or drinks, other than aspartame. it just sticks in my throat for some reason...0 -
christinev297 wrote: »I'm definitely not anti vaccinations! More harm than good (if any) comes from not vaccinating our kids.
In fact, our government is bringing in a law that if welfare recipients don't vaccinate their children, then their benefits will be slashed to a pittance!
I'm sorry, I wasn't implying that you were an anti-vaxxer. What I said, verbatim, was "that's the exact same logic anti-vaxxers use, and it's the reason why kids are dying in first-world countries of preventable diseases." Because, really, it is the same. You suggested that research facilities weren't going to go against million-dollar companies and tell people that their product wasn't safe as a reason why aspartame was harmful, and anti-vaxxers use the same logic to promote their agenda. They say, "scientists aren't going to go against Big Pharma and tell the public their vaccinations are causing [whatever bogus thing they've attached to vaccinations that week]" and use that to support their belief that vaccinations are harmful. My point is that that logic is flawed, and that it doesn't make sense to make decisions based on something that maybe, theoretically could be possible if all the ducks were lined up just right. It makes more sense to make decisions based on evidence and facts.
Of course, if you choose not to consume aspartame for your own reasons, that's totally fine. I don't either, because I don't like the taste. I know some people have sensitivity to aspartame and it makes them feel sick (just like some people have sensitivities to MSG, or to peanuts, or to dairy, etc.) I'm just pointing out that that kind of reasoning can be- and has been, in the case of vaccinations (which is why I used that as an example)- harmful overall. In recent years, people have become increasingly vocal about 'chemicals', without realizing that everything that we consume, natural or otherwise, is made of chemicals. I think that it's dangerous to be vocal about chemicals in foods unless we have an academic understanding of chemistry, because otherwise you wind up with a culture of people who make dietary decisions based on the paranoid delusions of some random housewife with a blog.
To clarify: Please do not feel like I'm criticizing you personally. Rather, I'm objecting to an overall way of thinking about the world and serious issues that has become increasingly common online. I feel it's important for people to educate themselves based on facts instead of hearsay. I'm especially concerned about the fact that healthcare professionals are giving medical advice based on superstition and paranoia, as opposed to scientific facts. That's really unnerving to me. What's next, is my doctor going to tell me that I can keep myself healthy by keeping an onion in the corner of my bedroom?0 -
I keyed in on your statement that "all diet foods" have it. Just eat regular food. I buy yogurt with splenda in it, but I can't think of any other diet-marketed product I buy. Just log carefully and use moderation with things like sugar.0
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All good @MercuryBlue
i appreciate you taking the time to reply I was not at all familiar with the anti vaxxers stance. 0 -
I found that when I used various artificial sweeteners that it increased my cravings expecially at night. I only used them for about a year. I quit all those over a year ago and lost the 10-15 pounds I had gained from it, and have maintained well ever since. I stick to mostly foods with 1-5 ingredients or less and foods I mostly prepare at home, which I mostly did before. The doctor said I had probably messed up my gut bacteria with the artifical chemicals, so I started eating fermented foods, just a little each day. I'm feeling great now and the cravings are gone.
Maybe the chemicals causing cravings thus eating more is what they mean by "slowing down weight loss".0 -
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christinev297 wrote: »Call me a conspiracy theorist, but don't coca cola et al use bucket loads of aspartame in their products? ?
Are research facilities going to go up against these Billion dollar companies and tell the public that their products are dangerous or harmful...
You should look up how huge the Sugar lobby is. They HATE any artificial sweetener, obviously. I would put money on them fiddling with the research more than someone like Coke who has products on both sides and doesn't care which one you buy as long as it's not Pepsi.
Edit: And for the record I have no issues at ALL about Aspartame or fake sugars. Diet Coke, sugar free gum, splenda/equal in the coffee, even bake with splenda.
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flamingblades wrote: »I believe Diet Pepsi uses Splenda. It is best to ditch soda pop all together, but my mom used to drink Diet Pepsi to avoid Aspartame. She had cancer and didn't want to make it worse with Aspartame.
Incorrect...I'm drinking a Diet Pepsi right now, and aspartame is #3 in the list of ingredients.
Pepsi One uses Splenda and a couple of other sweeteners. Could that be what you're thinking of? Diet Rite also uses Splenda.0 -
campjackson wrote: »Hello Everyone!
I just got back from seeing my cardiologist with a glowing report that I am praising the Lord for giving me my health back. During our conversation, my Doctor noted that I had lost weight. I told her that I had been on Nutri System...and that I really LOVE the frozen food plan! She said that Nutri System was a good way to lose weight...but that I needed to watch the labels to make sure that there were no Aspartame in the ingredients. She went on to say that Aspartame usage will result in very slow weight loss...or NONE at all...and that I should stop the Diet Coke as it was full of Aspartame. Right then and there...I swore off "pop" for ever!
But when I got home...I noticed that almost all the diet foods and drinks have Aspartame in them. Now I am wondering what I am going to eat. And I need a second opinion. Any help would be so appreciated! Roland
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Stay away from diet foods. Just eat normal food0
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Your body does not recognise aspartame/man made chemicals...so just guesses what to do with it. Hence all the health problems today from the rubbish supplied in food stores. Natural foods are the way forward. Sugar/Fat etc are not the enemy. Eating too much of the above is. Diet/exercise is the answer. All in moderation!0
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campjackson wrote: »Hello Everyone!
I just got back from seeing my cardiologist with a glowing report that I am praising the Lord for giving me my health back. During our conversation, my Doctor noted that I had lost weight. I told her that I had been on Nutri System...and that I really LOVE the frozen food plan! She said that Nutri System was a good way to lose weight...but that I needed to watch the labels to make sure that there were no Aspartame in the ingredients. She went on to say that Aspartame usage will result in very slow weight loss...or NONE at all...and that I should stop the Diet Coke as it was full of Aspartame. Right then and there...I swore off "pop" for ever!
But when I got home...I noticed that almost all the diet foods and drinks have Aspartame in them. Now I am wondering what I am going to eat. And I need a second opinion. Any help would be so appreciated! Roland
Don't take nutrition advice from a cardiologist just like you shouldn't take heart advice from a nutritionist.0 -
They don't use bucket loads, no. A few milligrams per serving.christinev297 wrote: »Call me a conspiracy theorist, but don't coca cola et al use bucket loads of aspartame in their products? ?
Are research facilities going to go up against these Billion dollar companies and tell the public that their products are dangerous or harmful...
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JohnTabbakh wrote: »Your body does not recognise aspartame/man made chemicals...so just guesses what to do with it. Hence all the health problems today from the rubbish supplied in food stores. Natural foods are the way forward. Sugar/Fat etc are not the enemy. Eating too much of the above is. Diet/exercise is the answer. All in moderation!
Your body can work with aspartame just fine. It's made out of aspartic acid and phenylalanine, two amino acids you're consuming every time you eat any kind of meat, and in higher quantities than you'd ingest by drinking a whole bunch of diet soda.0 -
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Yes...lets stop with the sharing of misinformation. lol0
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stevencloser wrote: »campjackson wrote: »Hello Everyone!
I just got back from seeing my cardiologist with a glowing report that I am praising the Lord for giving me my health back. During our conversation, my Doctor noted that I had lost weight. I told her that I had been on Nutri System...and that I really LOVE the frozen food plan! She said that Nutri System was a good way to lose weight...but that I needed to watch the labels to make sure that there were no Aspartame in the ingredients. She went on to say that Aspartame usage will result in very slow weight loss...or NONE at all...and that I should stop the Diet Coke as it was full of Aspartame. Right then and there...I swore off "pop" for ever!
But when I got home...I noticed that almost all the diet foods and drinks have Aspartame in them. Now I am wondering what I am going to eat. And I need a second opinion. Any help would be so appreciated! Roland
Don't take nutrition advice from a cardiologist just like you shouldn't take heart advice from a nutritionist.
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As far as aspartame (and other sugar substitutes) goes, if it bothers you or you are sensitive to it, you should limit or avoid it. Otherwise, go ahead (but I do believe in moderation in all things, including sugar substitutes). There is no credible evidence that it is harmful to the general public or inhibits weight loss.
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What does aspertame have to do with weight loss? It doesn't have any calories!0
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dont go to your cardiologist for nutrition advice.
ive lost 50 pounds in 6 months and drink diet coke fairly heavily (go in stages though but it has never slowed it down or prevented it).
i also eat whatever else i want, as long as it fits within my calories for the day.0 -
I can tell you this from my own experience (not very scientific I know) but I have lost over 190lb and have drunk at least 2 litres of diet soda most days. I live in the UK and am a firm believer in our health system. Here is a post from the NHS website regarding aspartame. http://www.nhs.uk/livewell/goodfood/pages/the-truth-about-aspartame.aspx.0
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jennifer_417 wrote: »What does aspertame have to do with weight loss? It doesn't have any calories!
But, but, it haz chemikillz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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jennifer_417 wrote: »What does aspertame have to do with weight loss? It doesn't have any calories!
But, but, it haz chemikillz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh noes! *puts on tinfoil hat and runs around in circles*0 -
I can tell you this from my own experience (not very scientific I know) but I have lost over 190lb and have drunk at least 2 litres of diet soda most days. I live in the UK and am a firm believer in our health system. Here is a post from the NHS website regarding aspartame. http://www.nhs.uk/livewell/goodfood/pages/the-truth-about-aspartame.aspx.
Amazing loss! Congratulations!
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I try to avoid aspartame as much as I can simply because it seriously aggravates my fibromyalgia. I try to stick to flavored waters that don't have any.0
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