Should I eliminate aspartame from my life? My Doctor says yes!
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It's posts like this that remind me that doctors can be just as riddled with misinformation as the rest of us.
Aspartame will not slow or stop your weight loss. Or at least if it will, I am a special snowflake who has lost weight consistently and always while using aspartame or splenda or stevia or a bunch of other artificial sweeteners.
I thought Stevia is a natural sweetener.0 -
^Don't believe everything "they" tell you.0
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YayFoodYayFood wrote: »YayFoodYayFood wrote: »
Sorry to make an example of your post, and sorry if I'm wrong.... but you just dropped "because science".
In a previous thread that you started, you said that you were a chef.
Instead of assuming, I'm going to ask... are you a chef with a PhD or MD, or even a BSc. Not that that is required in life, but.... I'm hoping that it is required for dropping "because science".
What is with everyone's obsession with credentials on this forum?
You don't need a PhD to know the fundamentals of nutrition.
Of course, I don't disagree. Not only was I not criticizing your credentials, I also was not criticizing your knowledge. But this "because science" statement I keep hearing is a little bit too authoritative. Experts wouldn't even use that slang... and they probably got to be experts by keeping an open mind and not dismissing people with statements that convey a false sense of authority.
People have to stop concerning themselves with sensitivities and start looking at the facts.
If someone is too direct with you, try not to take it to heart. Rather, research what they "claim" and see for yourself. This is a very large world. You cannot believe what everyone tells you... even so-called professionals like Doctor Oz or Mercola.0 -
^Sounds like you have a chip on your shoulder.
Do more research for yourself instead of relying on (or criticizing) what other's say... Problem solved.
(By the way)... There are a lot of doctors, dieticians, nutritionists, etc. who have little to no clue what they are talking about in certain nutrition-related contexts. They are human beings, just like everyone else.
All in all, "general comments and opinions" don't help anyone here...0 -
And doing your own research instead of blindly following others would correct all of that hesitation and skepticism.0
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YayFoodYayFood wrote: »YayFoodYayFood wrote: »
Sorry to make an example of your post, and sorry if I'm wrong.... but you just dropped "because science".
In a previous thread that you started, you said that you were a chef.
Instead of assuming, I'm going to ask... are you a chef with a PhD or MD, or even a BSc. Not that that is required in life, but.... I'm hoping that it is required for dropping "because science".
lol I'm guessing you have credentials yourself?
That's actually not the point. I think general comments and opinions are welcomed by everyone. I certainly welcome them. And some of the most insightful comments I've heard often come from those without formal credentials.
But to convey the point, I have more letters after my name than within my name, and I don't have an overly short name. That's not used as a bragging tool and it's not even relevant whether you even believe me, but I say this to highlight the fact that despite my credentials, I don't drop this "because science" and I try to avoid these blanket statements that I see everywhere authoritatively stating that one side of the argument is clearly better than the other "because science", or that I'm right "because science". What people really do in that regard is red flag themselves as closed minded to those whose jobs in life revolve around actual science or health care applications. Especially when they quote high school physics and chemistry principles and apply them to topics of clinical relevance with highly erroneous assumptions of the variables at hand. It's just so.... exposing.
This includes people WITH credentials btw. I've met plenty in my line of work who say the equivalent of "because science" with great consistency, and time always reveals them to limit their own ceiling of knowledge and performance to a significant degree. Just because of their attitude.
I just don't get why people can't keep their minds open and digest info from both sides, and applaud whenever someone shares information regardless if it is for or against their point. Eventually, you end up picking a side for practical reasons, but you always keep the doors open and always keep learning.
I'd argue that you're merely building a straw man of MFP users who cry "science" without provided citations to relevant sources, when many citations of many sources have been posted time and time again. a large number of posts you may see are repeated answers to questions which themselves have been repeated countless times.
often a new poster will arrive making specious claims and quickly be shot down by forum vets who may or may not provide the relevant evidence in those particular replies. you may even be able to sense the weariness and sentiment that the issue has been addressed many times before.0 -
YayFoodYayFood wrote: »And doing your own research instead of blindly following others would correct all of that hesitation and skepticism.
Yes, people should do their own research. You do yours. I do mine. If we happen to have open minds that allow us to further ourselves in life, then we share. That was established long ago.
But here is my last blunt attempt at the overall point. Using the shortest way possible:
Please everyone stop saying "because science". It immediately tells the science world that your science knowledge is anything but. Except the unsuspecting.
So you want thorough, in depth, concrete research and multiple scientific links from everyone and anyone who ever posts a factual reply on an internet forum.
Got it.0 -
I am still not seeing the science based facts that stevia is in fact worse than other calorie free sweeteners. If I am missing it, then please feel free to point it out.
Nah, you can figure it out. You're a smart lady... no need to have others do the work for you
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YayFoodYayFood wrote: »YayFoodYayFood wrote: »And doing your own research instead of blindly following others would correct all of that hesitation and skepticism.
Yes, people should do their own research. You do yours. I do mine. If we happen to have open minds that allow us to further ourselves in life, then we share. That was established long ago.
But here is my last blunt attempt at the overall point. Using the shortest way possible:
Please everyone stop saying "because science". It immediately tells the science world that your science knowledge is anything but. Except the unsuspecting.
So you want thorough, in depth, concrete research and multiple scientific links from everyone and anyone who ever posts a factual reply on an internet forum.
Got it.
No. You don't got it. Inserting a statement that I (or anyone else) never said is not Got-ing it.
This was my statement, which I am only re-iterating because I just realized that there may be a small chance that there is a language barrier, which is the only excusable cause for misinterpretation at this point.
HERE. IS. MY. MAIN. POINT. Stop saying "Because science". Because stupid.
Stop asserting your opinion when its grounded in no scientific factual data...
It. Is. Stupid.
Learn for yourself. This isn't 2nd grade and there aren't training wheels to save you.0 -
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I am still not seeing the science based facts that stevia is in fact worse than other calorie free sweeteners. If I am missing it, then please feel free to point it out.
Nah, you can figure it out. You're a smart lady... no need to have others do the work for you
Oh, I did figure it out. You decided to throw out science when in reality...yeah, not so much. I am a smart lady and can sense someone talking BS out their *kitten* pretty gosh darn quick. Full of it.
Then your senses are very poor. As is your intelligence.stevencloser wrote: »
Again, do the research. It is a heavily processed food.
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biggsterjackster wrote: »It's posts like this that remind me that doctors can be just as riddled with misinformation as the rest of us.
Aspartame will not slow or stop your weight loss. Or at least if it will, I am a special snowflake who has lost weight consistently and always while using aspartame or splenda or stevia or a bunch of other artificial sweeteners.
I thought Stevia is a natural sweetener.
Stevia leaves are natural, but something being natural doesn't make it good (arsenic is natural). The sweetening agent you end up eating is chemically extracted from the plant. What you consume is most definitely a processed product and likely has a bulking agent added to it.
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