Stronglifts 5x5
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PeachyPlum wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »Has anyone been doing this? If so, what have your results been?
I just started today. I really like it! My days will be set up for Thursday/Saturday/Monday with Tuesday and Wednesday as my non-lift days. As a beginner today was 45lb / 45lb / 65lb. I'm looking forward to going up in weight for the next one
It's okay if you're looking to maintain muscular conditioning e.g. stay in "shape" muscular wise. But if you're specifically looking to build muscle, or build strength there are better programs out there.
I also believe that barbells have a greater risk for injury. I don't see the point of putting yourself at this potential risk unless you're a competitive athlete in power lifting.
OP - Just disregard his comment...there is a reason he has "jail bars" on his profile picture.
Oh sweet baby cheesus. I'm having flashbacks to the squat thread I had the misfortune of starting...
Dear lord no!!
After 4 months of 5x5 my body has reshaped in ways I both did not expect and absolutely love. Great program. I did get some micro plates so I could go up 2.5 lbs on the OHP as 5lbs was too much as I got further into the program.0 -
mamasmaltz3 wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »Has anyone been doing this? If so, what have your results been?
I just started today. I really like it! My days will be set up for Thursday/Saturday/Monday with Tuesday and Wednesday as my non-lift days. As a beginner today was 45lb / 45lb / 65lb. I'm looking forward to going up in weight for the next one
It's okay if you're looking to maintain muscular conditioning e.g. stay in "shape" muscular wise. But if you're specifically looking to build muscle, or build strength there are better programs out there.
I also believe that barbells have a greater risk for injury. I don't see the point of putting yourself at this potential risk unless you're a competitive athlete in power lifting.
Barbells used with incorrect form have an increased risk of injury. But, then again, ANY movement done incorrectly has an increased risk of injury.
THe world recorder holder for squats, herniated his disk, they said he would never lift again. You think he doesn't have "good form"? I know some competitive powerlifters here who have suffered from injuries as well. I am sure their form is better than most, it's their sport, and it's what they do.
All physical exertion has some element of risk........
Here you go again using dramatic examples that don't apply to the general population......
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PeachyPlum wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »Has anyone been doing this? If so, what have your results been?
I just started today. I really like it! My days will be set up for Thursday/Saturday/Monday with Tuesday and Wednesday as my non-lift days. As a beginner today was 45lb / 45lb / 65lb. I'm looking forward to going up in weight for the next one
It's okay if you're looking to maintain muscular conditioning e.g. stay in "shape" muscular wise. But if you're specifically looking to build muscle, or build strength there are better programs out there.
I also believe that barbells have a greater risk for injury. I don't see the point of putting yourself at this potential risk unless you're a competitive athlete in power lifting.
OP - Just disregard his comment...there is a reason he has "jail bars" on his profile picture.
Oh sweet baby cheesus. I'm having flashbacks to the squat thread I had the misfortune of starting...
I remember reading through that thread. I felt bad
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PeachyPlum wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »Has anyone been doing this? If so, what have your results been?
I just started today. I really like it! My days will be set up for Thursday/Saturday/Monday with Tuesday and Wednesday as my non-lift days. As a beginner today was 45lb / 45lb / 65lb. I'm looking forward to going up in weight for the next one
It's okay if you're looking to maintain muscular conditioning e.g. stay in "shape" muscular wise. But if you're specifically looking to build muscle, or build strength there are better programs out there.
I also believe that barbells have a greater risk for injury. I don't see the point of putting yourself at this potential risk unless you're a competitive athlete in power lifting.
OP - Just disregard his comment...there is a reason he has "jail bars" on his profile picture.
Oh sweet baby cheesus. I'm having flashbacks to the squat thread I had the misfortune of starting...
I remember reading through that thread. I felt bad
It entertained me so much I sat down to watch some Netflix and forgot to turn the TV on!!0 -
PeachyPlum wrote: »PeachyPlum wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »Has anyone been doing this? If so, what have your results been?
I just started today. I really like it! My days will be set up for Thursday/Saturday/Monday with Tuesday and Wednesday as my non-lift days. As a beginner today was 45lb / 45lb / 65lb. I'm looking forward to going up in weight for the next one
It's okay if you're looking to maintain muscular conditioning e.g. stay in "shape" muscular wise. But if you're specifically looking to build muscle, or build strength there are better programs out there.
I also believe that barbells have a greater risk for injury. I don't see the point of putting yourself at this potential risk unless you're a competitive athlete in power lifting.
OP - Just disregard his comment...there is a reason he has "jail bars" on his profile picture.
Oh sweet baby cheesus. I'm having flashbacks to the squat thread I had the misfortune of starting...
I remember reading through that thread. I felt bad
It entertained me so much I sat down to watch some Netflix and forgot to turn the TV on!!
Been there haha. Totally off topic- but have your squats improved? We started SL around the same time I think - was just curious.0 -
SL is my favorite I started with 20 pounds for most of my lifts and 2 weeks ago, I squatted 7 lbs oVER my body weight!
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PeachyPlum wrote: »PeachyPlum wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »Has anyone been doing this? If so, what have your results been?
I just started today. I really like it! My days will be set up for Thursday/Saturday/Monday with Tuesday and Wednesday as my non-lift days. As a beginner today was 45lb / 45lb / 65lb. I'm looking forward to going up in weight for the next one
It's okay if you're looking to maintain muscular conditioning e.g. stay in "shape" muscular wise. But if you're specifically looking to build muscle, or build strength there are better programs out there.
I also believe that barbells have a greater risk for injury. I don't see the point of putting yourself at this potential risk unless you're a competitive athlete in power lifting.
OP - Just disregard his comment...there is a reason he has "jail bars" on his profile picture.
Oh sweet baby cheesus. I'm having flashbacks to the squat thread I had the misfortune of starting...
I remember reading through that thread. I felt bad
It entertained me so much I sat down to watch some Netflix and forgot to turn the TV on!!
I just hated to see good info hijacked by all the bs. I'd hate for the OP to be discouraged by that happening again in this thread.0 -
CarlydogsMom wrote: »If I can remember my numbers right I was squatting 235lbs 5x5, benching 135lbs 5x5, OHP 90lbs 5x5, rows 100lbs 5x5, and deadlifting 255lbs 1x5.
@mamasmaltz3 I bow to thee. Wow.
Lol. Please don't. I've had a lot of setbacks in my training and have yet to hit my goals. I know some women who warm up with my puny weights. I've had a knee injury to rehab (did not happen lifting), and an adductor pull that have set me way back. But, I LOVE lifting. It has become my passion.
I started back in March 2012 with the goal of losing weight. I began by doing circuit training videos at home with 5lb Dumbbells. That was all I could manage at nearly 260lbs and sedentary. Over time I changed up programs, bought heavier and heavier Dumbbells and then made the big plunge and invested in a rack, bar, bench and nearly 400lbs of plates. That's when I started SL. I had lost 70lbs and gained a ton of strength and I just got stronger from there.
My current PR's are: squat 265lbs, deadlift 275lbs, bench 160lbs, row 140lbs and OHP 105lbs (how I hate this lift, lol). I'm turning 40 this July and was hoping to have hit 300lbs on my squat and deads by now, but it just hasn't worked out. Strength isn't just found in the body. I've grown so much from the mental hurdles.
Sorry, didn't mean to write a book, I just get excited about women starting to strength train. Stick with it ladies.
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cushman5279 wrote: »Has anyone been doing this? If so, what have your results been?
I just started today. I really like it! My days will be set up for Thursday/Saturday/Monday with Tuesday and Wednesday as my non-lift days. As a beginner today was 45lb / 45lb / 65lb. I'm looking forward to going up in weight for the next one
It's okay if you're looking to maintain muscular conditioning e.g. stay in "shape" muscular wise. But if you're specifically looking to build muscle, or build strength there are better programs out there.
I also believe that barbells have a greater risk for injury. I don't see the point of putting yourself at this potential risk unless you're a competitive athlete in power lifting.
OP - Just disregard his comment...there is a reason he has "jail bars" on his profile picture.
Hey! Not always...
There is a huge list of rules which can be grounds for a time-out on this forum: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/welcome/guidelines ...And they can slap the cuffs on anyone, at anytime for something that isn't even that severe.
But yeah, I agree to ignore that silly barbell avoidance advice referenced above^.0 -
mamasmaltz3 wrote: »CarlydogsMom wrote: »If I can remember my numbers right I was squatting 235lbs 5x5, benching 135lbs 5x5, OHP 90lbs 5x5, rows 100lbs 5x5, and deadlifting 255lbs 1x5.
@mamasmaltz3 I bow to thee. Wow.
Lol. Please don't. I've had a lot of setbacks in my training and have yet to hit my goals. I know some women who warm up with my puny weights. I've had a knee injury to rehab (did not happen lifting), and an adductor pull that have set me way back. But, I LOVE lifting. It has become my passion.
I started back in March 2012 with the goal of losing weight. I began by doing circuit training videos at home with 5lb Dumbbells. That was all I could manage at nearly 260lbs and sedentary. Over time I changed up programs, bought heavier and heavier Dumbbells and then made the big plunge and invested in a rack, bar, bench and nearly 400lbs of plates. That's when I started SL. I had lost 70lbs and gained a ton of strength and I just got stronger from there.
My current PR's are: squat 265lbs, deadlift 275lbs, bench 160lbs, row 140lbs and OHP 105lbs (how I hate this lift, lol). I'm turning 40 this July and was hoping to have hit 300lbs on my squat and deads by now, but it just hasn't worked out. Strength isn't just found in the body. I've grown so much from the mental hurdles.
Sorry, didn't mean to write a book, I just get excited about women starting to strength train. Stick with it ladies.
You're awesome.
I love hearing of ladies lifting.
I love hearing of ladies (and gents) who continue to return to lifting after setbacks
my lifting stats suck suck suck.
due to quite a few various injuries (also not lifting related)
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mamasmaltz3 wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »Has anyone been doing this? If so, what have your results been?
I just started today. I really like it! My days will be set up for Thursday/Saturday/Monday with Tuesday and Wednesday as my non-lift days. As a beginner today was 45lb / 45lb / 65lb. I'm looking forward to going up in weight for the next one
It's okay if you're looking to maintain muscular conditioning e.g. stay in "shape" muscular wise. But if you're specifically looking to build muscle, or build strength there are better programs out there.
I also believe that barbells have a greater risk for injury. I don't see the point of putting yourself at this potential risk unless you're a competitive athlete in power lifting.
Barbells used with incorrect form have an increased risk of injury. But, then again, ANY movement done incorrectly has an increased risk of injury.
THe world recorder holder for squats, herniated his disk, they said he would never lift again. You think he doesn't have "good form"? I know some competitive powerlifters here who have suffered from injuries as well. I am sure their form is better than most, it's their sport, and it's what they do.
You're really comparing a world record holder to someone just starting out a strength program? In order to become a world record holder I guarantee his form did not stay correct for all his big lifts. It's impossible to go for world records and not have form break down. That is the risk you run going for world records. That does not translate to the average gym goer starting a new strength program.
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mamasmaltz3 wrote: »mamasmaltz3 wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »Has anyone been doing this? If so, what have your results been?
I just started today. I really like it! My days will be set up for Thursday/Saturday/Monday with Tuesday and Wednesday as my non-lift days. As a beginner today was 45lb / 45lb / 65lb. I'm looking forward to going up in weight for the next one
It's okay if you're looking to maintain muscular conditioning e.g. stay in "shape" muscular wise. But if you're specifically looking to build muscle, or build strength there are better programs out there.
I also believe that barbells have a greater risk for injury. I don't see the point of putting yourself at this potential risk unless you're a competitive athlete in power lifting.
Barbells used with incorrect form have an increased risk of injury. But, then again, ANY movement done incorrectly has an increased risk of injury.
THe world recorder holder for squats, herniated his disk, they said he would never lift again. You think he doesn't have "good form"? I know some competitive powerlifters here who have suffered from injuries as well. I am sure their form is better than most, it's their sport, and it's what they do.
You're really comparing a world record holder to someone just starting out a strength program? In order to become a world record holder I guarantee his form did not stay correct for all his big lifts. It's impossible to go for world records and not have form break down. That is the risk you run going for world records. That does not translate to the average gym goer starting a new strength program.
@mamasmaltz3 your best bet is to ignore him and just hope he goes away.
it isn't worth your time or frustration engaging him, he pulls this crap all of the time about anything.0 -
mamasmaltz3 wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »Has anyone been doing this? If so, what have your results been?
I just started today. I really like it! My days will be set up for Thursday/Saturday/Monday with Tuesday and Wednesday as my non-lift days. As a beginner today was 45lb / 45lb / 65lb. I'm looking forward to going up in weight for the next one
It's okay if you're looking to maintain muscular conditioning e.g. stay in "shape" muscular wise. But if you're specifically looking to build muscle, or build strength there are better programs out there.
I also believe that barbells have a greater risk for injury. I don't see the point of putting yourself at this potential risk unless you're a competitive athlete in power lifting.
Barbells used with incorrect form have an increased risk of injury. But, then again, ANY movement done incorrectly has an increased risk of injury.
THe world recorder holder for squats, herniated his disk, they said he would never lift again. You think he doesn't have "good form"? I know some competitive powerlifters here who have suffered from injuries as well. I am sure their form is better than most, it's their sport, and it's what they do.
All physical exertion has some element of risk........
Here you go again using dramatic examples that don't apply to the general population......
Yes all physical exertion has some risk. That's apparent. But it would be wise to minimize the risks especially if you can get better results. Yes it applies to the general population. 100% of his one rep max, is the same intensity for you or for me or whoever's 1 rep max. Same thing. It's relative to the person.
I am saying that if you want to build strength, do a strength training program, if you want to build muscle do a muscle building program. 5x5 is advertised kind of a hybrid. It's kind of in between both. It's okay for general fitness.
Can you give some examples of what you consider to be “muscle-building” vs “strength-building” programs? How is Stronglifts inferior? Aren’t most of these based on the big compound lifts?0 -
mamasmaltz3 wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »Has anyone been doing this? If so, what have your results been?
I just started today. I really like it! My days will be set up for Thursday/Saturday/Monday with Tuesday and Wednesday as my non-lift days. As a beginner today was 45lb / 45lb / 65lb. I'm looking forward to going up in weight for the next one
It's okay if you're looking to maintain muscular conditioning e.g. stay in "shape" muscular wise. But if you're specifically looking to build muscle, or build strength there are better programs out there.
I also believe that barbells have a greater risk for injury. I don't see the point of putting yourself at this potential risk unless you're a competitive athlete in power lifting.
Barbells used with incorrect form have an increased risk of injury. But, then again, ANY movement done incorrectly has an increased risk of injury.
THe world recorder holder for squats, herniated his disk, they said he would never lift again. You think he doesn't have "good form"? I know some competitive powerlifters here who have suffered from injuries as well. I am sure their form is better than most, it's their sport, and it's what they do.
All physical exertion has some element of risk........
Here you go again using dramatic examples that don't apply to the general population......
Yes all physical exertion has some risk. That's apparent. But it would be wise to minimize the risks especially if you can get better results. Yes it applies to the general population. 100% of his one rep max, is the same intensity for you or for me or whoever's 1 rep max. Same thing. It's relative to the person.
I am saying that if you want to build strength, do a strength training program, if you want to build muscle do a muscle building program. 5x5 is advertised kind of a hybrid. It's kind of in between both. It's okay for general fitness.
Stronglifts 5x5 is a beginner strength training program. When you have a strength program designed for newbies they will experience some muscle growth as a side effect. I've read the entire program, ran the program and never felt it was advertised as a "hybrid".0 -
I addressed relative intensity in a previous post...mamasmaltz3 wrote: »mamasmaltz3 wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »Has anyone been doing this? If so, what have your results been?
I just started today. I really like it! My days will be set up for Thursday/Saturday/Monday with Tuesday and Wednesday as my non-lift days. As a beginner today was 45lb / 45lb / 65lb. I'm looking forward to going up in weight for the next one
It's okay if you're looking to maintain muscular conditioning e.g. stay in "shape" muscular wise. But if you're specifically looking to build muscle, or build strength there are better programs out there.
I also believe that barbells have a greater risk for injury. I don't see the point of putting yourself at this potential risk unless you're a competitive athlete in power lifting.
Barbells used with incorrect form have an increased risk of injury. But, then again, ANY movement done incorrectly has an increased risk of injury.
THe world recorder holder for squats, herniated his disk, they said he would never lift again. You think he doesn't have "good form"? I know some competitive powerlifters here who have suffered from injuries as well. I am sure their form is better than most, it's their sport, and it's what they do.
You're really comparing a world record holder to someone just starting out a strength program? In order to become a world record holder I guarantee his form did not stay correct for all his big lifts. It's impossible to go for world records and not have form break down. That is the risk you run going for world records. That does not translate to the average gym goer starting a new strength program.
@Pu_239 just stay on topic please. The OP wanted advice from people who have done SL 5x5. If you have experience with it, great, please share it. If not, please move along.0 -
PeachyPlum wrote: »PeachyPlum wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »Has anyone been doing this? If so, what have your results been?
I just started today. I really like it! My days will be set up for Thursday/Saturday/Monday with Tuesday and Wednesday as my non-lift days. As a beginner today was 45lb / 45lb / 65lb. I'm looking forward to going up in weight for the next one
It's okay if you're looking to maintain muscular conditioning e.g. stay in "shape" muscular wise. But if you're specifically looking to build muscle, or build strength there are better programs out there.
I also believe that barbells have a greater risk for injury. I don't see the point of putting yourself at this potential risk unless you're a competitive athlete in power lifting.
OP - Just disregard his comment...there is a reason he has "jail bars" on his profile picture.
Oh sweet baby cheesus. I'm having flashbacks to the squat thread I had the misfortune of starting...
I remember reading through that thread. I felt bad
It entertained me so much I sat down to watch some Netflix and forgot to turn the TV on!!
Been there haha. Totally off topic- but have your squats improved? We started SL around the same time I think - was just curious.
Yes, but slowly.
I think I was at 50lbs at the time of the post, squatted through it and have felt great ever since. I've had a couple of hiccups where I had to stay at the same weight for a few days to correct form before I could move up. I did 80lbs the last two times, and might go up to 85 tonight if I feel confident after my first set.
I think I'm at the point now where it's going to be 5lbs a week, not 5lbs a workout. But... I'm not far below my bodyweight now!0 -
I addressed relative intensity in a previous post...mamasmaltz3 wrote: »mamasmaltz3 wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »Has anyone been doing this? If so, what have your results been?
I just started today. I really like it! My days will be set up for Thursday/Saturday/Monday with Tuesday and Wednesday as my non-lift days. As a beginner today was 45lb / 45lb / 65lb. I'm looking forward to going up in weight for the next one
It's okay if you're looking to maintain muscular conditioning e.g. stay in "shape" muscular wise. But if you're specifically looking to build muscle, or build strength there are better programs out there.
I also believe that barbells have a greater risk for injury. I don't see the point of putting yourself at this potential risk unless you're a competitive athlete in power lifting.
Barbells used with incorrect form have an increased risk of injury. But, then again, ANY movement done incorrectly has an increased risk of injury.
THe world recorder holder for squats, herniated his disk, they said he would never lift again. You think he doesn't have "good form"? I know some competitive powerlifters here who have suffered from injuries as well. I am sure their form is better than most, it's their sport, and it's what they do.
You're really comparing a world record holder to someone just starting out a strength program? In order to become a world record holder I guarantee his form did not stay correct for all his big lifts. It's impossible to go for world records and not have form break down. That is the risk you run going for world records. That does not translate to the average gym goer starting a new strength program.
Yes, I saw that post. It revealed your ignorance of the SL program because you don't test 1RM.0 -
mamasmaltz3 wrote: »mamasmaltz3 wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »Has anyone been doing this? If so, what have your results been?
I just started today. I really like it! My days will be set up for Thursday/Saturday/Monday with Tuesday and Wednesday as my non-lift days. As a beginner today was 45lb / 45lb / 65lb. I'm looking forward to going up in weight for the next one
It's okay if you're looking to maintain muscular conditioning e.g. stay in "shape" muscular wise. But if you're specifically looking to build muscle, or build strength there are better programs out there.
I also believe that barbells have a greater risk for injury. I don't see the point of putting yourself at this potential risk unless you're a competitive athlete in power lifting.
Barbells used with incorrect form have an increased risk of injury. But, then again, ANY movement done incorrectly has an increased risk of injury.
THe world recorder holder for squats, herniated his disk, they said he would never lift again. You think he doesn't have "good form"? I know some competitive powerlifters here who have suffered from injuries as well. I am sure their form is better than most, it's their sport, and it's what they do.
All physical exertion has some element of risk........
Here you go again using dramatic examples that don't apply to the general population......
Yes all physical exertion has some risk. That's apparent. But it would be wise to minimize the risks especially if you can get better results. Yes it applies to the general population. 100% of his one rep max, is the same intensity for you or for me or whoever's 1 rep max. Same thing. It's relative to the person.
I am saying that if you want to build strength, do a strength training program, if you want to build muscle do a muscle building program. 5x5 is advertised kind of a hybrid. It's kind of in between both. It's okay for general fitness.
Stronglifts 5x5 is a beginner strength training program. When you have a strength program designed for newbies they will experience some muscle growth as a side effect. I've read the entire program, ran the program and never felt it was advertised as a "hybrid".
It technically is a "hybrid" program in that it will not only build strength, it will also provide hypertrophy to build new muscle. More muscle allows for more strength in theory. More strength does not neccessarily equate to more muscle.
I would love to discuss programming with anyone but I won't derail this thread.
5x5 is PROVEN to work for beginners AND non-beginner lifters.
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PeachyPlum wrote: »PeachyPlum wrote: »PeachyPlum wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »Has anyone been doing this? If so, what have your results been?
I just started today. I really like it! My days will be set up for Thursday/Saturday/Monday with Tuesday and Wednesday as my non-lift days. As a beginner today was 45lb / 45lb / 65lb. I'm looking forward to going up in weight for the next one
It's okay if you're looking to maintain muscular conditioning e.g. stay in "shape" muscular wise. But if you're specifically looking to build muscle, or build strength there are better programs out there.
I also believe that barbells have a greater risk for injury. I don't see the point of putting yourself at this potential risk unless you're a competitive athlete in power lifting.
OP - Just disregard his comment...there is a reason he has "jail bars" on his profile picture.
Oh sweet baby cheesus. I'm having flashbacks to the squat thread I had the misfortune of starting...
I remember reading through that thread. I felt bad
It entertained me so much I sat down to watch some Netflix and forgot to turn the TV on!!
Been there haha. Totally off topic- but have your squats improved? We started SL around the same time I think - was just curious.
Yes, but slowly.
I think I was at 50lbs at the time of the post, squatted through it and have felt great ever since. I've had a couple of hiccups where I had to stay at the same weight for a few days to correct form before I could move up. I did 80lbs the last two times, and might go up to 85 tonight if I feel confident after my first set.
I think I'm at the point now where it's going to be 5lbs a week, not 5lbs a workout. But... I'm not far below my bodyweight now!
Progress is progress! I'm supposed to go for 95lb tomorrow.
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PeachyPlum wrote: »PeachyPlum wrote: »PeachyPlum wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »Has anyone been doing this? If so, what have your results been?
I just started today. I really like it! My days will be set up for Thursday/Saturday/Monday with Tuesday and Wednesday as my non-lift days. As a beginner today was 45lb / 45lb / 65lb. I'm looking forward to going up in weight for the next one
It's okay if you're looking to maintain muscular conditioning e.g. stay in "shape" muscular wise. But if you're specifically looking to build muscle, or build strength there are better programs out there.
I also believe that barbells have a greater risk for injury. I don't see the point of putting yourself at this potential risk unless you're a competitive athlete in power lifting.
OP - Just disregard his comment...there is a reason he has "jail bars" on his profile picture.
Oh sweet baby cheesus. I'm having flashbacks to the squat thread I had the misfortune of starting...
I remember reading through that thread. I felt bad
It entertained me so much I sat down to watch some Netflix and forgot to turn the TV on!!
Been there haha. Totally off topic- but have your squats improved? We started SL around the same time I think - was just curious.
Yes, but slowly.
I think I was at 50lbs at the time of the post, squatted through it and have felt great ever since. I've had a couple of hiccups where I had to stay at the same weight for a few days to correct form before I could move up. I did 80lbs the last two times, and might go up to 85 tonight if I feel confident after my first set.
I think I'm at the point now where it's going to be 5lbs a week, not 5lbs a workout. But... I'm not far below my bodyweight now!
Progress is progress! I'm supposed to go for 95lb tomorrow.
I hate you both! =P
Due to injuries & a funk, I get to start over with squats.
Again.
I think I get 60# on Monday
Which makes me sad lol0 -
lishie_rebooted wrote: »PeachyPlum wrote: »PeachyPlum wrote: »PeachyPlum wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »Has anyone been doing this? If so, what have your results been?
I just started today. I really like it! My days will be set up for Thursday/Saturday/Monday with Tuesday and Wednesday as my non-lift days. As a beginner today was 45lb / 45lb / 65lb. I'm looking forward to going up in weight for the next one
It's okay if you're looking to maintain muscular conditioning e.g. stay in "shape" muscular wise. But if you're specifically looking to build muscle, or build strength there are better programs out there.
I also believe that barbells have a greater risk for injury. I don't see the point of putting yourself at this potential risk unless you're a competitive athlete in power lifting.
OP - Just disregard his comment...there is a reason he has "jail bars" on his profile picture.
Oh sweet baby cheesus. I'm having flashbacks to the squat thread I had the misfortune of starting...
I remember reading through that thread. I felt bad
It entertained me so much I sat down to watch some Netflix and forgot to turn the TV on!!
Been there haha. Totally off topic- but have your squats improved? We started SL around the same time I think - was just curious.
Yes, but slowly.
I think I was at 50lbs at the time of the post, squatted through it and have felt great ever since. I've had a couple of hiccups where I had to stay at the same weight for a few days to correct form before I could move up. I did 80lbs the last two times, and might go up to 85 tonight if I feel confident after my first set.
I think I'm at the point now where it's going to be 5lbs a week, not 5lbs a workout. But... I'm not far below my bodyweight now!
Progress is progress! I'm supposed to go for 95lb tomorrow.
I hate you both! =P
Due to injuries & a funk, I get to start over with squats.
Again.
I think I get 60# on Monday
Which makes me sad lol
You'll get there!! - I've been in a funk all week and have barely worked out.0 -
mamasmaltz3 wrote: »
I addressed relative intensity in a previous post...mamasmaltz3 wrote: »mamasmaltz3 wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »Has anyone been doing this? If so, what have your results been?
I just started today. I really like it! My days will be set up for Thursday/Saturday/Monday with Tuesday and Wednesday as my non-lift days. As a beginner today was 45lb / 45lb / 65lb. I'm looking forward to going up in weight for the next one
It's okay if you're looking to maintain muscular conditioning e.g. stay in "shape" muscular wise. But if you're specifically looking to build muscle, or build strength there are better programs out there.
I also believe that barbells have a greater risk for injury. I don't see the point of putting yourself at this potential risk unless you're a competitive athlete in power lifting.
Barbells used with incorrect form have an increased risk of injury. But, then again, ANY movement done incorrectly has an increased risk of injury.
THe world recorder holder for squats, herniated his disk, they said he would never lift again. You think he doesn't have "good form"? I know some competitive powerlifters here who have suffered from injuries as well. I am sure their form is better than most, it's their sport, and it's what they do.
You're really comparing a world record holder to someone just starting out a strength program? In order to become a world record holder I guarantee his form did not stay correct for all his big lifts. It's impossible to go for world records and not have form break down. That is the risk you run going for world records. That does not translate to the average gym goer starting a new strength program.
Yes, I saw that post. It revealed your ignorance of the SL program because you don't test 1RM.
DING DING DING DING DING!!!!! Winner Winner!!!!!
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lishie_rebooted wrote: »PeachyPlum wrote: »PeachyPlum wrote: »PeachyPlum wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »Has anyone been doing this? If so, what have your results been?
I just started today. I really like it! My days will be set up for Thursday/Saturday/Monday with Tuesday and Wednesday as my non-lift days. As a beginner today was 45lb / 45lb / 65lb. I'm looking forward to going up in weight for the next one
It's okay if you're looking to maintain muscular conditioning e.g. stay in "shape" muscular wise. But if you're specifically looking to build muscle, or build strength there are better programs out there.
I also believe that barbells have a greater risk for injury. I don't see the point of putting yourself at this potential risk unless you're a competitive athlete in power lifting.
OP - Just disregard his comment...there is a reason he has "jail bars" on his profile picture.
Oh sweet baby cheesus. I'm having flashbacks to the squat thread I had the misfortune of starting...
I remember reading through that thread. I felt bad
It entertained me so much I sat down to watch some Netflix and forgot to turn the TV on!!
Been there haha. Totally off topic- but have your squats improved? We started SL around the same time I think - was just curious.
Yes, but slowly.
I think I was at 50lbs at the time of the post, squatted through it and have felt great ever since. I've had a couple of hiccups where I had to stay at the same weight for a few days to correct form before I could move up. I did 80lbs the last two times, and might go up to 85 tonight if I feel confident after my first set.
I think I'm at the point now where it's going to be 5lbs a week, not 5lbs a workout. But... I'm not far below my bodyweight now!
Progress is progress! I'm supposed to go for 95lb tomorrow.
I hate you both! =P
Due to injuries & a funk, I get to start over with squats.
Again.
I think I get 60# on Monday
Which makes me sad lol
That is a bummer. But... it makes me feel better? Because I was really beating myself up that I'm not ripping of 110lb squats like I "should" be by now. 0 -
PeachyPlum wrote: »lishie_rebooted wrote: »PeachyPlum wrote: »PeachyPlum wrote: »PeachyPlum wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »Has anyone been doing this? If so, what have your results been?
I just started today. I really like it! My days will be set up for Thursday/Saturday/Monday with Tuesday and Wednesday as my non-lift days. As a beginner today was 45lb / 45lb / 65lb. I'm looking forward to going up in weight for the next one
It's okay if you're looking to maintain muscular conditioning e.g. stay in "shape" muscular wise. But if you're specifically looking to build muscle, or build strength there are better programs out there.
I also believe that barbells have a greater risk for injury. I don't see the point of putting yourself at this potential risk unless you're a competitive athlete in power lifting.
OP - Just disregard his comment...there is a reason he has "jail bars" on his profile picture.
Oh sweet baby cheesus. I'm having flashbacks to the squat thread I had the misfortune of starting...
I remember reading through that thread. I felt bad
It entertained me so much I sat down to watch some Netflix and forgot to turn the TV on!!
Been there haha. Totally off topic- but have your squats improved? We started SL around the same time I think - was just curious.
Yes, but slowly.
I think I was at 50lbs at the time of the post, squatted through it and have felt great ever since. I've had a couple of hiccups where I had to stay at the same weight for a few days to correct form before I could move up. I did 80lbs the last two times, and might go up to 85 tonight if I feel confident after my first set.
I think I'm at the point now where it's going to be 5lbs a week, not 5lbs a workout. But... I'm not far below my bodyweight now!
Progress is progress! I'm supposed to go for 95lb tomorrow.
I hate you both! =P
Due to injuries & a funk, I get to start over with squats.
Again.
I think I get 60# on Monday
Which makes me sad lol That is a bummer. But... it makes me feel better? Because I was really beating myself up that I'm not ripping of 110lb squats like I "should" be by now.
It sucks but at least I'm back to lifting.
That's the way I'm looking at it this time (2nd injury lol)lishie_rebooted wrote: »PeachyPlum wrote: »PeachyPlum wrote: »PeachyPlum wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »Has anyone been doing this? If so, what have your results been?
I just started today. I really like it! My days will be set up for Thursday/Saturday/Monday with Tuesday and Wednesday as my non-lift days. As a beginner today was 45lb / 45lb / 65lb. I'm looking forward to going up in weight for the next one
It's okay if you're looking to maintain muscular conditioning e.g. stay in "shape" muscular wise. But if you're specifically looking to build muscle, or build strength there are better programs out there.
I also believe that barbells have a greater risk for injury. I don't see the point of putting yourself at this potential risk unless you're a competitive athlete in power lifting.
OP - Just disregard his comment...there is a reason he has "jail bars" on his profile picture.
Oh sweet baby cheesus. I'm having flashbacks to the squat thread I had the misfortune of starting...
I remember reading through that thread. I felt bad
It entertained me so much I sat down to watch some Netflix and forgot to turn the TV on!!
Been there haha. Totally off topic- but have your squats improved? We started SL around the same time I think - was just curious.
Yes, but slowly.
I think I was at 50lbs at the time of the post, squatted through it and have felt great ever since. I've had a couple of hiccups where I had to stay at the same weight for a few days to correct form before I could move up. I did 80lbs the last two times, and might go up to 85 tonight if I feel confident after my first set.
I think I'm at the point now where it's going to be 5lbs a week, not 5lbs a workout. But... I'm not far below my bodyweight now!
Progress is progress! I'm supposed to go for 95lb tomorrow.
I hate you both! =P
Due to injuries & a funk, I get to start over with squats.
Again.
I think I get 60# on Monday
Which makes me sad lol
You'll get there!! - I've been in a funk all week and have barely worked out.
I hope your funk breaks soon!
ETA: can't spell lol0 -
mamasmaltz3 wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »Has anyone been doing this? If so, what have your results been?
I just started today. I really like it! My days will be set up for Thursday/Saturday/Monday with Tuesday and Wednesday as my non-lift days. As a beginner today was 45lb / 45lb / 65lb. I'm looking forward to going up in weight for the next one
It's okay if you're looking to maintain muscular conditioning e.g. stay in "shape" muscular wise. But if you're specifically looking to build muscle, or build strength there are better programs out there.
I also believe that barbells have a greater risk for injury. I don't see the point of putting yourself at this potential risk unless you're a competitive athlete in power lifting.
Barbells used with incorrect form have an increased risk of injury. But, then again, ANY movement done incorrectly has an increased risk of injury.
THe world recorder holder for squats, herniated his disk, they said he would never lift again. You think he doesn't have "good form"? I know some competitive powerlifters here who have suffered from injuries as well. I am sure their form is better than most, it's their sport, and it's what they do.
All physical exertion has some element of risk........
Here you go again using dramatic examples that don't apply to the general population......
Yes all physical exertion has some risk. That's apparent. But it would be wise to minimize the risks especially if you can get better results. Yes it applies to the general population. 100% of his one rep max, is the same intensity for you or for me or whoever's 1 rep max. Same thing. It's relative to the person.
I am saying that if you want to build strength, do a strength training program, if you want to build muscle do a muscle building program. 5x5 is advertised kind of a hybrid. It's kind of in between both. It's okay for general fitness.
Can you give some examples of what you consider to be “muscle-building” vs “strength-building” programs? How is Stronglifts inferior? Aren’t most of these based on the big compound lifts?
Strong lifts is inferior, because it's more generalized. It's similar to running. Do you want to be a sprinter, or a marathoner, or do you just want general fitness? Trying to be a marathoner or a sprinter doing general fitness based running (moderate intensity 30-60mins) isn't going to optimize your goals. General running is just that, it's general, not optimized in either direction. Same as 5x5
Examples of muscle and strength building would be more about the rep ranges. But general strength straining is seen as 1-4 reps, muscle building 8-12. If you want some solid examples, look up a power lifting routine(strength training), and body building routines(muscle building).
Why I feel it's completely unnecessary for a non competitive athlete to do "strength training" routines is because with a higher rep range, you will also build strength naturally. Strength gains will come slower with this type of routine, but who cares you don't even compare anyways...
You failed to answer her question......what PROGRAMS are you referring to?
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Hey, it's the "people shouldn't run because there are safer forms of cardio" guy!0
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I addressed relative intensity in a previous post...mamasmaltz3 wrote: »mamasmaltz3 wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »Has anyone been doing this? If so, what have your results been?
I just started today. I really like it! My days will be set up for Thursday/Saturday/Monday with Tuesday and Wednesday as my non-lift days. As a beginner today was 45lb / 45lb / 65lb. I'm looking forward to going up in weight for the next one
It's okay if you're looking to maintain muscular conditioning e.g. stay in "shape" muscular wise. But if you're specifically looking to build muscle, or build strength there are better programs out there.
I also believe that barbells have a greater risk for injury. I don't see the point of putting yourself at this potential risk unless you're a competitive athlete in power lifting.
Barbells used with incorrect form have an increased risk of injury. But, then again, ANY movement done incorrectly has an increased risk of injury.
THe world recorder holder for squats, herniated his disk, they said he would never lift again. You think he doesn't have "good form"? I know some competitive powerlifters here who have suffered from injuries as well. I am sure their form is better than most, it's their sport, and it's what they do.
You're really comparing a world record holder to someone just starting out a strength program? In order to become a world record holder I guarantee his form did not stay correct for all his big lifts. It's impossible to go for world records and not have form break down. That is the risk you run going for world records. That does not translate to the average gym goer starting a new strength program.
@Pu_239 just stay on topic please. The OP wanted advice from people who have done SL 5x5. If you have experience with it, great, please share it. If not, please move along.
SHe asked for feedback on it, I gave her my feed back, then you started to question me and asking me for specifics which lead in to another discussion. How many people posted before I did how they like the program? I disagree with all them. I just ignored them and gave my own opinion on the subject. If people don't agree with my post it can be ignored.
OP: I did strong lifts for a little while. It's an "ok" program. What i didn't like about this type of training is the warm up, dealing with barbelles, putting plates on, taking them off, putting everything back. It's a hassle. WHy did I do strong lifts originally? I wanted something simple with a clean outline that helped perserve muscle mass while I reduced body fat. STrong lifts is okay for that. I got back in to lifting a few months ago. I was about to do 5x5. But I opted not to, one time I injured my back really bad doing dead lifts, I was bed ridden for a month literally. I watched countless videos on form, and make sure i did things right. STill got injured. A few of my friends compete in powerlifting, also injured their backs with deadlifting, i am sure their form is better than mine. He actually has a video of his back injury.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnqggNm7g0Q
There are many other options out there. My strength is increasing like never before, every time i go to the gym i break PR's. Last week i broke 5 PR's, 2 days ago i broke 3 PR's, last night I also broke 2 PR's.
Strong lifts isn't optimized, it has a greater risk of injury than other forms of training that produce better results. I would recommend more o a bodybuilding routine. I was reading a study a few weeks ago, i think it was 80% of powerlifters(lifters who do lifts similar to 5x5) have 80% more injuries than body builders.
This might be beneficial to you, it also explains why 5x5 isn't recommended.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSe6rnHhl8k
LOL' again using extreme examples.....guy injures himself doing a 518lb deadlift.............
Steve Shaw states @ 2:35 this video is based on guys who have lifting experience who go to use SL 5x5......... he talks about beginners for about a minute and even says it's an OK program.0 -
OP - Stronglifts 5x5 is a good program for any beginner to start with! You're going to build strength and muscle over time and have a good foundation for future lifting programs. It's that simple. Keep it simple. Enjoy!0
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