Diet coke.
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I'm convinced, going to the office fridge for another cherry coke zero right now.0
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ElizabethKalmbach wrote: »http://news.wustl.edu/news/Pages/25491.aspx
http://www.medicaldaily.com/splenda-raises-insulin-20-routine-increases-insulin-could-mean-type-2-diabetes-risk-246409
http://www.webmd.com/diet/20140917/artificial-sweeteners-blood-sugar
I drink diet with no ill effect, so I don't really care one way or the other, but I'm pointing out where these ideas may have come from. Carry on with your discussion.
My dietician and my doctor cautiously believe this may be true (not that artifical sweeteners cause diabetes, but that they can cause variations in the BG level that makes it more difficult to track/control). Reason being is that there isn't enough research out there to prove it one way or another, but that there are trends that are being discovered that may be evidence that this is happening.
Diabetes.org is obviously an authority, but I don't think they're going to update their information with "trends" and "theories" until enough studies have been done to prove a correlation, which may take a few more years.
When I asked about diabetes TII and its possible relationship to artifical sweeteners, my dietician and doctor have basically given me the same response: "I don't think it's a thing, but research says it might be, so enjoy in moderation. Don't treat artifical sweeteners like they're a free pass to eating bad. Watch your BG level regardless."
tl;dr version: it may not be a point worth arguing for the moment because I don't think they know for sure yet.0 -
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ManiaCallaugh: Blood sugar level =/= insulin response. In theory, those with diabetes do not HAVE an appropriate insulin response anyway, so a drink that doesn't change actual blood sugar level (and their insulin adjustment is manual and involves actual measurement for appropriate dosing) would be fine. Someone who is insulin resistant and still producing their own insulin may want to be more cautious. Though, caution is also not the same as religious fervor. I am cautious. I drink diet and pay attention to how I feel after doing so - having gone through a couple periods of insulin resistance at my higher weights. Testing on human subjects is somewhat unethical, but I'm the only test subject I have. I'm just following the relatively new research and the relatively new sweeteners.0
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anything is ok in moderation, but for me, personally, diet coke/pepsi is addictive, and I get headaches from the sweetener (only when I drink too much...so see the addictive comment)...anyway, it is best if I only have it when I REALLY want it....like with an occasional slice of pizza, etc. Many people can have one once in a whle and that is all it leads to...For me, I don't keep it in my house...I usually only have it when I eat out. It is completely a personal thing.0
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I drink one daily. I'm just fine.0
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maniacallaugh wrote: »ElizabethKalmbach wrote: »http://news.wustl.edu/news/Pages/25491.aspx
http://www.medicaldaily.com/splenda-raises-insulin-20-routine-increases-insulin-could-mean-type-2-diabetes-risk-246409
http://www.webmd.com/diet/20140917/artificial-sweeteners-blood-sugar
I drink diet with no ill effect, so I don't really care one way or the other, but I'm pointing out where these ideas may have come from. Carry on with your discussion.
My dietician and my doctor cautiously believe this may be true (not that artifical sweeteners cause diabetes, but that they can cause variations in the BG level that makes it more difficult to track/control). Reason being is that there isn't enough research out there to prove it one way or another, but that there are trends that are being discovered that may be evidence that this is happening.
Diabetes.org is obviously an authority, but I don't think they're going to update their information with "trends" and "theories" until enough studies have been done to prove a correlation, which may take a few more years.
When I asked about diabetes TII and its possible relationship to artifical sweeteners, my dietician and doctor have basically given me the same response: "I don't think it's a thing, but research says it might be, so enjoy in moderation. Don't treat artifical sweeteners like they're a free pass to eating bad. Watch your BG level regardless."
tl;dr version: it may not be a point worth arguing for the moment because I don't think they know for sure yet.
The study Medical Daily commented on was using sucrolose as huge doses, the kind you wouldn't see in a diet drink.
At smaller doses, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21245879 , noted no increase in insulin response.0 -
I drink water all day long, at least 90-100oz or more a day. So with supper, I allow myself to have some diet coke. It is my treat for doing so well . And i've lost almost 20 lbs now.0
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I would marry Diet Coke if I could.0
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dirtyflirty30 wrote: »I would marry Diet Coke if I could.
Too late!
Diet coke is already married to Bacardi.0 -
Diet Pepsi is better.... and so is Dr. Pepper Ten.0
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dirtyflirty30 wrote: »I would marry Diet Coke if I could.
Too late!
Diet coke is already married to Bacardi.
It's married to Jack Daniels in my house0 -
NobodyPutsAmyInTheCorner wrote: »dirtyflirty30 wrote: »I would marry Diet Coke if I could.
Too late!
Diet coke is already married to Bacardi.
It's married to Jack Daniels in my house
Jack and Bacardi?
My frugality knows no bounds---it's bottom shelf Kentucky Gentleman for me! Somehow that cheap crap and Diet Pepsi go together spectacularly.
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Thalie5000 wrote: »I have been trying to give up Diet Pepsi for awhile now and find it extremely difficult. There is no nutritional yield in it, so why include it in your lifestyle? Also, it tastes very sweet and makes healthy snacks/beverages pale in comparison. Without it, you enjoy the healthy options more.
There's no nutritional yield to black pepper, but I still enjoy the taste of it.
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janejellyroll wrote: »Thalie5000 wrote: »I have been trying to give up Diet Pepsi for awhile now and find it extremely difficult. There is no nutritional yield in it, so why include it in your lifestyle? Also, it tastes very sweet and makes healthy snacks/beverages pale in comparison. Without it, you enjoy the healthy options more.
There's no nutritional yield to black pepper, but I still enjoy the taste of it.
But but but... sneezing uncontrollably is so much fun!
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