Gym owner won't let me sign up?
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I have a friend who has an eating disorder (not your story, but follow me). Many gym members complain that she should be banned because she is in danger of harming herself. In reality, these uneducated buffoons are uncomfortable looking at her and taking out their own insecurities on her without knowing her full situation. Anyway, even IF the gym denied her a membership she'd go somewhere else. It's her right, so they take her money and allow her membership. This owner is a fool. It sounds like discrimination even though it is under the guise of "your best interest". i'd give someone else my $. Screw him.
I know right. I love it when my customers pass out with hundreds of lbs of weight over their head because they have an eating disorder and because they don't have enough strength to pull something like this. Screw my business and the liability your ED brings, I just wanna make sure that you know that I'm jealous of your awesome ED!!!!!!!
I would, like, totally wanna BFF and personally train you if you had a huge thigh gap.
LMAO
Hey, taunto...
you clearly misunderstood my post. I worry about my friend. She knows she has an issue. She works out "for her head". She doesn't have or want a personal trainer and you are about as bright as the other members who prejudge without all the info. I bet you'd deny an obese person a seat next to you on aspin bike because they might sweat all over you. My point is that in AMERICA we have freedom. If my friend wants to die on a cardio machine itis her right and the gym can stil make her membership dues. Ethical or not. Everyone is so perfect and critical. Sorry I even bothered. I guess you are on MFP because you are just PERFECT. perfectly closed minded.
Freedom doesn't give you the right to membership of any private business. A bank can deny you an account. A credit card can deny you credit. A country club can deny you access even if you have the money for it. If a gym only wants healthy people working out on their property, they have every right to do so. She isn't being discriminated against because people are jealous of her mental issues. People are uncomfortable because she has mental issues.0 -
Right, I'd say to open the diary, and re-check the calories your taking in. I'm the same height as you, and was 84lbs at my worst (14 years old) my Doc at that point told me to gain weight.
98lbs does seem a bit on the light side, the gym owner is right in terms of his business liability, don't take it as offence, but he has to protect his business...
As said, open up the diary, and check you are actually hitting those calories, I thought I was for a while, turned out I was under eating.0 -
If you are trying to gain weight, try drinking ensure. It has helped my hubby, who is in the same boat, gain 20 pounds. It was recommended by his nutritionist and he says its really good. He also drinks protein shakes as well, which was also recommended.0
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Seconded. Try the beginner body weight workout.Try Googling "NERD FITNESS" for some good strength routines you can follow at home, if you are not already aware of that site, it's pretty good.
And it wouldn't hurt to talk to your doctor. Maybe they'll have some suggestions.0 -
My point is that in AMERICA we have freedom.
Did you fail government class? You have the FREEDOM to speak your mind, to practice or not practice religion, etc., without the threat of punishment by the government. You do NOT have the freedom to work out in someone else's gym, any more than you have the freedom to walk into someone else's home and eat their food.0 -
There is a LOT of information on the internet for you. Take this for example --> http://www.mensfitness.com/nutrition/what-to-eat/nutrition-rules-for-every-ectomorph
I never even heard of an ectomorph but it is hella interesting to read about it. Use the information and post up your results. Thanks for enlightening some of us on this condition. I never would of thought it was possible.0 -
If this is real...please get professional help
If this is not real... please get professional help.0 -
I have a friend who has an eating disorder (not your story, but follow me). Many gym members complain that she should be banned because she is in danger of harming herself. In reality, these uneducated buffoons are uncomfortable looking at her and taking out their own insecurities on her without knowing her full situation. Anyway, even IF the gym denied her a membership she'd go somewhere else. It's her right, so they take her money and allow her membership. This owner is a fool. It sounds like discrimination even though it is under the guise of "your best interest". i'd give someone else my $. Screw him.
I know right. I love it when my customers pass out with hundreds of lbs of weight over their head because they have an eating disorder and because they don't have enough strength to pull something like this. Screw my business and the liability your ED brings, I just wanna make sure that you know that I'm jealous of your awesome ED!!!!!!!
I would, like, totally wanna BFF and personally train you if you had a huge thigh gap.
LMAO
Hey, taunto...
you clearly misunderstood my post. I worry about my friend. She knows she has an issue. She works out "for her head". She doesn't have or want a personal trainer and you are about as bright as the other members who prejudge without all the info. I bet you'd deny an obese person a seat next to you on aspin bike because they might sweat all over you. My point is that in AMERICA we have freedom. If my friend wants to die on a cardio machine itis her right and the gym can stil make her membership dues. Ethical or not. Everyone is so perfect and critical. Sorry I even bothered. I guess you are on MFP because you are just PERFECT. perfectly closed minded.
If your friend wants to die on a cardio machines, that may be her right, but not in a gym that is fully aware of what the repercussions will be if she does die.
Secondly, people are always so quick to spout off that we have freedom in America, you have as much freedom as the Government allows you to have. I have never assumed that I have all this freedom, because in reality we do not. Sorry to burst your bubble and I am not perfect. I am sure that people who have commented are not also, they just have common sense.0 -
You're not an ectomorph. You simply do not eat enough to exceed your current total daily energy expenditure.
Eat more. Much more. I would recommend 6 meals a day, plenty of carbs.
Cut down all planned cardio to as close to zero as possible.
You don't need a gym for the time being - get a basic set of adjustable weights, barbell, bench and chin up bar and get cracking yourself.0 -
Ditto on the see a Doctor suggestion.
Perhaps even a nutritionist.
If your eating is under control and a Doctor gives you the healthy thumbs up? Go back to the gym and speak privately with the owner/manager.0 -
It's all about liability issues. The gym is partially correct. They do have the right to refuse membership if its dangerous. Having said that, the person at the gym is not a M.D. So they should have said that if you see a doctor and get medical clearance they will allow you to join.0
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I honestly feel a little uncomfortable with people who have obvious eating disorders going crazy on the elliptical, and I wonder why the gyms allow it. So I'm pretty sympathetic to the gym owner that said no way. However, I think this would be a different conversation altogether if we were talking about an obese person who wasn't allowed to join a gym because of a health risk.0
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I have not read all the other responses but have you tried maybe getting some weight equipment for the home as a starting point?0
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Ectomorph or not, anyone who is 5'7" and weighs 97 lbs is emaciated. How much weight should you gain before the gym owner will let you join? Ask him.0
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My point is that in AMERICA we have freedom.
Did you fail government class? You have the FREEDOM to speak your mind, to practice or not practice religion, etc., without the threat of punishment by the government. You do NOT have the freedom to work out in someone else's gym, any more than you have the freedom to walk into someone else's home and eat their food.
Actually access to private businesses comes under the commerce clause of the constitution. Hence, black people can't be kicked out of restaurants anymore.0 -
I have a friend who has an eating disorder (not your story, but follow me). Many gym members complain that she should be banned because she is in danger of harming herself. In reality, these uneducated buffoons are uncomfortable looking at her and taking out their own insecurities on her without knowing her full situation. Anyway, even IF the gym denied her a membership she'd go somewhere else. It's her right, so they take her money and allow her membership. This owner is a fool. It sounds like discrimination even though it is under the guise of "your best interest". i'd give someone else my $. Screw him.
I know right. I love it when my customers pass out with hundreds of lbs of weight over their head because they have an eating disorder and because they don't have enough strength to pull something like this. Screw my business and the liability your ED brings, I just wanna make sure that you know that I'm jealous of your awesome ED!!!!!!!
I would, like, totally wanna BFF and personally train you if you had a huge thigh gap.
LMAO
Hey, taunto...
you clearly misunderstood my post. I worry about my friend. She knows she has an issue. She works out "for her head". She doesn't have or want a personal trainer and you are about as bright as the other members who prejudge without all the info. I bet you'd deny an obese person a seat next to you on aspin bike because they might sweat all over you. My point is that in AMERICA we have freedom. If my friend wants to die on a cardio machine itis her right and the gym can stil make her membership dues. Ethical or not. Everyone is so perfect and critical. Sorry I even bothered. I guess you are on MFP because you are just PERFECT. perfectly closed minded.
Oh yay there goes the freedom aspect - of which also a business owner also has the RIGHT to refuse service (yes that includes gyms). But I do not recall the freedom to work out as part of our freedoms.
ETA: The commerce portion - it would be on the part of the person filing the claim that they were discriminated against. Good luck with that, because you can say, "They wouldn't serve me because I am purple" , but you have to prove that was the reason they did. They could easily say "XYZ" . The burden of proof would be on you, and that is not as easy as one would think. Besides, businesses still have the RIGHT to refuse service to anyone.
OP- I totally agree with Taunto and the others who say seek a Drs help.0 -
http://foxhoundstudio.com/blog/fitness-lifestyle/bony-to-beastly-is-officially-in-beta/
Ignoring the hair, this may be a good place to look. (Ok, I can't ignore that hair. WTF?!)0 -
Haven't read all the posts, so this may have been mentioned already, but see a doctor and get a health checkup. Doctor might be able to help you gain weight. At the very least, if doctor finds you healthy - he/she may give you a note clearing you to be healthy to work out in a gym, which might be sufficient for the gym owner? Dunno but worth a try!
Good luck!0 -
My point is that in AMERICA we have freedom.
Did you fail government class? You have the FREEDOM to speak your mind, to practice or not practice religion, etc., without the threat of punishment by the government. You do NOT have the freedom to work out in someone else's gym, any more than you have the freedom to walk into someone else's home and eat their food.
Actually access to private businesses comes under the commerce clause of the constitution. Hence, black people can't be kicked out of restaurants anymore.
But any business can refuse you service...0 -
I think the gym owner is right to refuse you membership at this point. Like others have said, go see your doctor and get his or her opinion on your health and low bodyweight. I think if you had a doctor's recommendation/clearance to lift weights, the gym owner might feel a bit differently. Can't blame the guy for being concerned with health and safety at his gym....0
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I have a friend who has an eating disorder (not your story, but follow me). Many gym members complain that she should be banned because she is in danger of harming herself. In reality, these uneducated buffoons are uncomfortable looking at her and taking out their own insecurities on her without knowing her full situation. Anyway, even IF the gym denied her a membership she'd go somewhere else. It's her right, so they take her money and allow her membership. This owner is a fool. It sounds like discrimination even though it is under the guise of "your best interest". i'd give someone else my $. Screw him.
I know right. I love it when my customers pass out with hundreds of lbs of weight over their head because they have an eating disorder and because they don't have enough strength to pull something like this. Screw my business and the liability your ED brings, I just wanna make sure that you know that I'm jealous of your awesome ED!!!!!!!
I would, like, totally wanna BFF and personally train you if you had a huge thigh gap.
LMAO
Hey, taunto...
you clearly misunderstood my post. I worry about my friend. She knows she has an issue. She works out "for her head". She doesn't have or want a personal trainer and you are about as bright as the other members who prejudge without all the info. I bet you'd deny an obese person a seat next to you on aspin bike because they might sweat all over you. My point is that in AMERICA we have freedom. If my friend wants to die on a cardio machine itis her right and the gym can stil make her membership dues. Ethical or not. Everyone is so perfect and critical. Sorry I even bothered. I guess you are on MFP because you are just PERFECT. perfectly closed minded.
Oh yay there goes the freedom aspect - of which also a business owner also has the RIGHT to refuse service (yes that includes gyms). But I do not recall the freedom to work out as part of our freedoms.
ETA: The commerce portion - it would be on the part of the person filing the claim that they were discriminated against. Good luck with that, because you can say, "They wouldn't serve me because I am purple" , but you have to prove that was the reason they did. They could easily say "XYZ" . The burden of proof would be on you, and that is not as easy as one would think. Besides, businesses still have the RIGHT to refuse service to anyone.
OP- I totally agree with Taunto and the others who say seek a Drs help.
I didn't say the commerce clause would ACTUALLY apply in this circumstance. It was just that somebody got all uppity about the constitution who obviously hasn't read it beyond the bill of rights. Note also, there are constitutional protections beyond the bill of rights... hello 14th Amendment. None of which apply to this set of facts. I just thought that person was annoying.0 -
My point is that in AMERICA we have freedom.
Did you fail government class? You have the FREEDOM to speak your mind, to practice or not practice religion, etc., without the threat of punishment by the government. You do NOT have the freedom to work out in someone else's gym, any more than you have the freedom to walk into someone else's home and eat their food.
Actually access to private businesses comes under the commerce clause of the constitution. Hence, black people can't be kicked out of restaurants anymore.
But any business can refuse you service...
Any business can't refuse you service for any reason. Again: think civil rights, lunch counter strikes, "no blacks" signs. Ehhhh... this is so besides the point of this post. Never mind.0 -
No, we don't. We have liberty, not freedom. There is a huge difference.My point is that in AMERICA we have freedom. If my friend wants to die on a cardio machine itis her right and the gym can stil make her membership dues. Ethical or not. Everyone is so perfect and critical. Sorry I even bothered. I guess you are on MFP because you are just PERFECT. perfectly closed minded.
And beyond that, the right to force a gym to let me work out there despite obvious physical risk or against the gym's policy isn't one of the rights guaranteed to me under Constitution or by Amendment.0 -
My point is that in AMERICA we have freedom.
Did you fail government class? You have the FREEDOM to speak your mind, to practice or not practice religion, etc., without the threat of punishment by the government. You do NOT have the freedom to work out in someone else's gym, any more than you have the freedom to walk into someone else's home and eat their food.
Actually access to private businesses comes under the commerce clause of the constitution. Hence, black people can't be kicked out of restaurants anymore.
But any business can refuse you service...
Any business can't refuse you service for any reason. Again: think civil rights, lunch counter strikes, "no blacks" signs. Ehhhh... this is so besides the point of this post. Never mind.
They aren't refusing him for any of those reasons they're refusing him because he's a liability which they CAN do.0 -
what should i do?
Eat more.0 -
My point is that in AMERICA we have freedom.
Did you fail government class? You have the FREEDOM to speak your mind, to practice or not practice religion, etc., without the threat of punishment by the government. You do NOT have the freedom to work out in someone else's gym, any more than you have the freedom to walk into someone else's home and eat their food.
Actually access to private businesses comes under the commerce clause of the constitution. Hence, black people can't be kicked out of restaurants anymore.
But any business can refuse you service...
Any business can't refuse you service for any reason. Again: think civil rights, lunch counter strikes, "no blacks" signs. Ehhhh... this is so besides the point of this post. Never mind.
They aren't refusing him for any of those reasons they're refusing him because he's a liability which they CAN do.
I know. That's why I said it was BESIDES THE POINT. ****ing read before you comment. Thanks.0 -
My point is that in AMERICA we have freedom.
Did you fail government class? You have the FREEDOM to speak your mind, to practice or not practice religion, etc., without the threat of punishment by the government. You do NOT have the freedom to work out in someone else's gym, any more than you have the freedom to walk into someone else's home and eat their food.
Actually access to private businesses comes under the commerce clause of the constitution. Hence, black people can't be kicked out of restaurants anymore.
a black person isn't going to die on a treadmill because they're black. a dangerously unhealthy person doing unhealthy practices in a gym is a serious insurance liability, and thus the gym owner has a right to deny access.0 -
In addition you might want to watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeeFrcvt3KA
I think you will find the experiences of the participants will shed light on your issues.
As before, you need to eat more, consistently as said.0 -
i like this gym owner! he's doing the responsible thing.I've recently tried joining this gym that's the only gym local to me, I wanted to begin a lifting programme and put on some size and gain some muscle mass. Take into account I find it very very hard to put weight on, anyway when I went into the gym and told the manager what my goals was he took some measurements and did a little exam on me and weighed me and stuff and told me that my weight was dangerously low to be messing with weight's and basically said i wasn't healthy.. yet he knowns nothing about my struggles in that part of my life. anyway he told me i weighed 97-98 pounds and i'm 5ft 7 (18 years old) and i myself couldn't believe that i was that low? before you say I'm anoreix or crap like that I'm not, I'm an ectomorph and I eat anywhere from 3000-3500 calories a day and that used to consist of milk shakes/cookies/harbio's/jaffa cakes/cakes/chocolate/energy drinks all sorts of crap, but I've cleaned up my diet now to fresh fruits/veg/lean meats/ complex carbs (brown rice) and calorie dense foods like almond butter/nuts/olive oil/porridge. what should i do? should i just stay at home and try and put weight on if i can and see if he let's me join? how much weight should i gain before he let's me use his gym?
my advice? if your doctor will write a note stating that s/he believes it is good & safe for you to excersise, go back and offer to sign a disclaimer that if you suffer ill health you do not hold his gym responsible.
gotta respect the gym for doing this. he's giving up your gym fees.0 -
My point is that in AMERICA we have freedom.
Did you fail government class? You have the FREEDOM to speak your mind, to practice or not practice religion, etc., without the threat of punishment by the government. You do NOT have the freedom to work out in someone else's gym, any more than you have the freedom to walk into someone else's home and eat their food.
Actually access to private businesses comes under the commerce clause of the constitution. Hence, black people can't be kicked out of restaurants anymore.
a black person isn't going to die on a treadmill because they're black. a dangerously unhealthy person doing unhealthy practices in a gym is a serious insurance liability, and thus the gym owner has a right to deny access.
For the third time. My point wasn't that the constitution allows this person to work out in this gym. It was simply that the person making comments about the constitution was making incorrect comments.0
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