Gym owner won't let me sign up?
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Personally I think if someone has a eating disorder and underweight and the gym allows the membership then they are enabling the person...an obese person (as the arguement mentioned)....by having the gym membership they arent enabling the lifestyle that got them obese ... quite the opposite.
Back to the OP i think you should go to the doctors...getting blood tests run to see where your health is at and then speak to a nutritionist.0 -
My point is that in AMERICA we have freedom.
Did you fail government class? You have the FREEDOM to speak your mind, to practice or not practice religion, etc., without the threat of punishment by the government. You do NOT have the freedom to work out in someone else's gym, any more than you have the freedom to walk into someone else's home and eat their food.
Actually access to private businesses comes under the commerce clause of the constitution. Hence, black people can't be kicked out of restaurants anymore.
But any business can refuse you service...
Any business can't refuse you service for any reason. Again: think civil rights, lunch counter strikes, "no blacks" signs. Ehhhh... this is so besides the point of this post. Never mind.
They aren't refusing him for any of those reasons they're refusing him because he's a liability which they CAN do.
I know. That's why I said it was BESIDES THE POINT. ****ing read before you comment. Thanks.
Perhaps you should think about getting off the internet and seeking some anger management. That was a really tiny thing to lash out over. Please, talk to somebody. This isn't the first time I'm seeing you snap like this and worry you have a problem0 -
I think tape-worms! Really.. you need to see a doctor. You could have any number of medical conditions.. or you might just be underestimating how much you eat.0
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I have little to add to this brilliant thread. Except perhaps these:
https://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1026813-explain-to-me-how-i-gained-weight
https://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1017665-been-thinking-about-a-cheat-day
https://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1027380-how-is-my-diet
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1026892-can-someone-explain-this-for-me
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1026973-how-many-calories-do-i-need0 -
I have little to add to this brilliant thread. Except perhaps these:
https://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1026813-explain-to-me-how-i-gained-weight
https://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1017665-been-thinking-about-a-cheat-day
https://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1027380-how-is-my-diet
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1026892-can-someone-explain-this-for-me
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1026973-how-many-calories-do-i-need
The word you are looking for is shenanigans!
or, troll.0 -
8 - 10 pints of Guinness a day for a couple of years and you will have gained all the weight you need to join the gym :bigsmile:0
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I have little to add to this brilliant thread. Except perhaps these:
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https://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1017665-been-thinking-about-a-cheat-day
https://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1027380-how-is-my-diet
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1026892-can-someone-explain-this-for-me
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1026973-how-many-calories-do-i-need
The word you are looking for is shenanigans!
or, troll.
Oh, looks like I missed a few. These are pretty awesome, too!
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1024534-problem-with-constipation
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Get a note from your doctor saying that you're healthy and on a training programme to gain weight, and that you don't have any medical condition that would make such a programme dangerous
be sure though that you follow a decent beginners programme of lifting, e.g. SL 5x5 or Starting Strength, one that starts with the empty bar (or even lighter than that) and emphasises learning proper form, then advises progressively loading the bar with slightly heavier weights, so that you build up your strength as you go, while always lifting with good form, and also while eating enough to make gains in both strength and size. Both those programmes mentioned are ideal for young men who are very thin and want to gain mass, and I think Mark Rippetoe (of the Starting Strength programme) advises drinking a gallon of milk a day in order to get enough protein and calories to get bigger (yes in addition to all of what you're eating already)
Also you may need to show the program to the gym owner so he can see that you're starting with light weights and focusing on getting form right before progressing through heavier weights. Plenty of young men go in there and try to lift weights that are way too heavy and injure themselves, and that's what he doesn't want to see. So you need to show him you're not going to do that.0 -
I have a friend who has an eating disorder (not your story, but follow me). Many gym members complain that she should be banned because she is in danger of harming herself. In reality, these uneducated buffoons are uncomfortable looking at her and taking out their own insecurities on her without knowing her full situation. Anyway, even IF the gym denied her a membership she'd go somewhere else. It's her right, so they take her money and allow her membership. This owner is a fool. It sounds like discrimination even though it is under the guise of "your best interest". i'd give someone else my $. Screw him.
I know right. I love it when my customers pass out with hundreds of lbs of weight over their head because they have an eating disorder and because they don't have enough strength to pull something like this. Screw my business and the liability your ED brings, I just wanna make sure that you know that I'm jealous of your awesome ED!!!!!!!
I would, like, totally wanna BFF and personally train you if you had a huge thigh gap.
LMAO
Hey, taunto...
you clearly misunderstood my post. I worry about my friend. She knows she has an issue. She works out "for her head". She doesn't have or want a personal trainer and you are about as bright as the other members who prejudge without all the info. I bet you'd deny an obese person a seat next to you on aspin bike because they might sweat all over you. My point is that in AMERICA we have freedom. If my friend wants to die on a cardio machine itis her right and the gym can stil make her membership dues. Ethical or not. Everyone is so perfect and critical. Sorry I even bothered. I guess you are on MFP because you are just PERFECT. perfectly closed minded.
You have freedom to refuse an unreasonable risk. That's what the gym owner is doing. Exercising his freedom.
In my gym in Germany, where we have never heard of this freedom, we never let you die on cardio machines, we force feed you sauerkraut. Go team, 'merica!
In reality, the freedom you think you have is certainly limited by a whole bunch of laws and behaviors around risk whether it is seat belts, the FDA, drug laws, speed limits (which we have less of - yay, autobahns) the right to sue the jimmies off of the gym owner, etc...
I understand this upsets you, reality can be difficult, there is no need to start insulting the people of MFP that disagree with you.
Btw, and now more seriously, by supporting your friend with an ED in the name of freedom with a behavior that might lead to further injury you are possibly tacitly enabling them. I don't know your situation and I'm not judging but would suggest you think about how you might support and help your friend. They might not want it or need it but have you even asked?
To the OP - if your intent is to gain mass at the gym, see you doc as suggested, get a letter from him or her that clears you to practice this and eat at surplus. Given your weight I'm sure gaining a few pounds of muscle will help in long term fitness. Exercise can be part of a weight gain program. Talk to the doc.0 -
I am not exactly sure that the gym owner should necessarily deny someone the right to join a gym.
Probably not, but his gym... his rules.
Just ask him straight how much mass you need to put on before he'll let you start strength training there.
In the mean time, speak to the doctor, read up (nerdfitness +1), buy some dumbbells and start eating!0 -
to those who say I'm not consuming 3000+ calories, I tracked everything i ate by every gram for a whole week on here and I added all my calories over the week and devided it by 7 and got 3471 calories in total for each day, when i weighed myself 2 days ago i had lost 0.3kg's...
Increase it to 4000 for four weeks and see where you are. I agree with others that you should see a dietitian who can help you with a plan to increase your weight. Someone mentioned Crohn's diseas. My husband has Crohn's, and he got down to 95 pounds (5' 7") before finally being diagnosed. It you are having any kind of discomfort in your stomach, it's worth looking into.0 -
I only skimmed the bickering but I didn't see anyone mention the fact that the OP is only 18. Still a baby! He probably hasn't finished growing and filling out. I'm sure he'll put on some mass in the next couple of years naturally.
To the OP, looking at your food diary, you only ate more than 2000 one day in the last seven. You must have made a mistake in adding up your calories for the week and dividing by 7. You should definitely eat more -- more protein, fats, and carbs. Also, as others have said, see a doc and/or a nutritionist and get on a weight gain program. Give it about a year, gain a few kgs, and then go back to the gym to start a weight lifting program.0 -
Hi There: May I suggest a fabulous book called "Body For Life" by Bill Phillips.
Everything you ever wanted to know about lifting weights, at home and in a gym also eating clean and improving your health and physique!
Good Luck!!0 -
IF the doctor says your are healthy, maybe you can get some relatively light weights and do some lifting at home so you can start building some muscle until you are large enough to join the gym.0
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IT is a tough call. While I do understand both sides of the story, I am not exactly sure that the gym owner should necessarily deny someone the right to join a gym. Perhaps a better way to have approached it would have been to take a consultative approach- Perhaps introducing you to a nutritionist or recommending you see your doctor before engaging in exercise. On the other hand, when you join a gym, the waivers you sign in essence indemnify the gym, you are instructed to consult a doctor and you also exercise at your own risk.
The facts being what they are- do consult a doctor, do consult a nutritionist, then approach the gym again, this time with documentation showing the steps you have taken.
Joining a gym is now a right???? I would expect any business owner would have the right, and the responsibility, to turn away anyone who he or she thinks may sustain an injury on the premises, or who might harm the business in some way. My God, these "right" have gone too far already! Some things are privileges!0 -
It seems you have calories set at 1200. Probably because MFP set cals based on weight, but this is incorrect for an 18 year old male. Set your cals to at least 2000 - and if you are losing, higher. This last week you haven't logged 2000 every day.0
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Aren't really obese people at risk of having a heart attack on the treadmill? Why not deny them too and allow only healthy weight people membership?
I'm sure if you were obese instead of underweight your story would have made the newspapers.
On the other hand I do understand the gym's approach, but they should have given you a chance before telling you NO. I would worry only if I saw a skinny person running on the treadmill for hours, not wanting to build some muscle.
I found this one funny. I'm about 100 pounds overweight, and I jogged a 5K in the Texas heat with no problem and with my doctor's approval. Educate yourself; not all obese people are unfit. Strap on an extra 100 pounds and see how far you get.0 -
I have little to add to this brilliant thread. Except perhaps these:
https://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1026813-explain-to-me-how-i-gained-weight
https://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1017665-been-thinking-about-a-cheat-day
https://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1027380-how-is-my-diet
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1026892-can-someone-explain-this-for-me
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1026973-how-many-calories-do-i-need
The word you are looking for is shenanigans!
or, troll.
Strange he lost one inch in his height lol.
Somebody taking the pee by the looks of it
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I have a friend who has an eating disorder (not your story, but follow me). Many gym members complain that she should be banned because she is in danger of harming herself. In reality, these uneducated buffoons are uncomfortable looking at her and taking out their own insecurities on her without knowing her full situation. Anyway, even IF the gym denied her a membership she'd go somewhere else. It's her right, so they take her money and allow her membership. This owner is a fool. It sounds like discrimination even though it is under the guise of "your best interest". i'd give someone else my $. Screw him.
I know right. I love it when my customers pass out with hundreds of lbs of weight over their head because they have an eating disorder and because they don't have enough strength to pull something like this. Screw my business and the liability your ED brings, I just wanna make sure that you know that I'm jealous of your awesome ED!!!!!!!
I would, like, totally wanna BFF and personally train you if you had a huge thigh gap.
LMAO
Hey, taunto...
you clearly misunderstood my post. I worry about my friend. She knows she has an issue. She works out "for her head". She doesn't have or want a personal trainer and you are about as bright as the other members who prejudge without all the info. I bet you'd deny an obese person a seat next to you on aspin bike because they might sweat all over you. My point is that in AMERICA we have freedom. If my friend wants to die on a cardio machine itis her right and the gym can stil make her membership dues. Ethical or not. Everyone is so perfect and critical. Sorry I even bothered. I guess you are on MFP because you are just PERFECT. perfectly closed minded.
Actually, you don't have any rights to work out at a private business unless you are being discriminated against as a protected class (race, religion, sex)... which doesn't include body type. The business owner had the legal power to turn her away - you may disagree with that decision, but there is.0 -
I have little to add to this brilliant thread. Except perhaps these:
https://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1026813-explain-to-me-how-i-gained-weight
https://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1017665-been-thinking-about-a-cheat-day
https://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1027380-how-is-my-diet
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1026892-can-someone-explain-this-for-me
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1026973-how-many-calories-do-i-need
The word you are looking for is shenanigans!
or, troll.
Strange he lost one inch in his height lol.
Somebody taking the pee by the looks of it
One inch? His height fluctuates between 5'3" and 5'7"! Not to mention his caloric intake and weight. The guy is in serious trouble, if you ask me. I am glad he is using the forums, but it might just be time for professional help.
[ETA: but at least his age is consistently 18.]0 -
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If your friend is in danger of dying on a treadmill, it is the gym's right to refuse membership. I think if anything happened to her, she would be suing or some relative would sue (if she died). The gym owner isn't uneducated. He or she is educated very well by his insurance on law suits. I am obese and when I joined a gym they wanted my doctor's approval for me to be able to workout. The owner has to look out for those that aren't looking out for themselves.I have a friend who has an eating disorder (not your story, but follow me). Many gym members complain that she should be banned because she is in danger of harming herself. In reality, these uneducated buffoons are uncomfortable looking at her and taking out their own insecurities on her without knowing her full situation. Anyway, even IF the gym denied her a membership she'd go somewhere else. It's her right, so they take her money and allow her membership. This owner is a fool. It sounds like discrimination even though it is under the guise of "your best interest". i'd give someone else my $. Screw him.
I know right. I love it when my customers pass out with hundreds of lbs of weight over their head because they have an eating disorder and because they don't have enough strength to pull something like this. Screw my business and the liability your ED brings, I just wanna make sure that you know that I'm jealous of your awesome ED!!!!!!!
I would, like, totally wanna BFF and personally train you if you had a huge thigh gap.
LMAO
Hey, taunto...
you clearly misunderstood my post. I worry about my friend. She knows she has an issue. She works out "for her head". She doesn't have or want a personal trainer and you are about as bright as the other members who prejudge without all the info. I bet you'd deny an obese person a seat next to you on aspin bike because they might sweat all over you. My point is that in AMERICA we have freedom. If my friend wants to die on a cardio machine itis her right and the gym can stil make her membership dues. Ethical or not. Everyone is so perfect and critical. Sorry I even bothered. I guess you are on MFP because you are just PERFECT. perfectly closed minded.0
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