Keto diets, your opinion please!

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  • RAinWA
    RAinWA Posts: 1,980 Member
    PeachyCarol wrote: »
    Can I ask a silly question. I vaguely remember reading something about there being different types of ketone bodies produced and one of them not turning the usual test strips positive?

    Am I remembering what I thought I read correctly? The whole time I did Atkins, I never once tested positive on those things.

    I did keto for a year and never used the strips. But according to my doctor, the strips aren't a terribly good indicator since they can be inaccurate (age, storage conditions, etc.), plus the longer you are in ketosis the less ketones you actually excrete in urine. Not sure of the actual science behind that but my doctor didn't think they were necessary.

    And I did great with keto - lost 120 lbs in a year, my energy was fine, etc. I knew it wasn't going to be a sustainable way of eating forever so I spent a lot of time while losing learning about nutrition and figuring out how I was going to maintain. I lost another 7 lbs transitioning out of keto and have maintained my loss for more than a year.
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  • 111grace
    111grace Posts: 382 Member
    I tried it and it did not work for me, it caused too much painful constipation for me, but another person said they have no problems with it. I also was worried about the long term effects. I think a diet is individually tailored to a person, you have to find & listen to whats great for you.
  • jonnybhoy
    jonnybhoy Posts: 84 Member
    PeterJones123 wrote: »
    RAinWA wrote: »
    Can I ask a silly question. I vaguely remember reading something about there being different types of ketone bodies produced and one of them not turning the usual test strips positive?

    Am I remembering what I thought I read correctly? The whole time I did Atkins, I never once tested positive on those things.
    You probably where never in ketosis by consuming too much protein.
    How much protein is too much?
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  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,431 MFP Moderator
    Personally, i would never work fore me. I cant even get below 200g of carbs or i start to struggle athletically. But each body will respond differently. For some its a great tool for wellness, weight loss and more, while others it has the opposite affect. I am one of those who need carbs and a lot of them
  • RAinWA
    RAinWA Posts: 1,980 Member
    psulemon wrote: »
    Personally, i would never work fore me. I cant even get below 200g of carbs or i start to struggle athletically. But each body will respond differently. For some its a great tool for wellness, weight loss and more, while others it has the opposite affect. I am one of those who need carbs and a lot of them

    I started at 257 lbs at 5'1" - I didn't really have an athletic performance to maintain. :) As I started to lose I started moving more. I wish I had started strength training long before I did. Especially now that I'm back to just walking until we get some medical issues sorted out. It was a great tool for losing weight but I can't see me doing it for longer than I did - I enjoy carbs too much.
  • GiGiBeans
    GiGiBeans Posts: 1,062 Member
    You might find runketo.com interesting. Endurance athletes doing a keto experiment.
  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
    It seems like with all of these, you'll get answers that some people like it, some hate it, and many have never tried it. Read what you can so you know what to expect, and give it a try. It seems like that's really going to be the only way you'll know if you like it or if it affects your personal performance ability.
  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
    I know for certain I'd be a miserable cow on a keto diet :cry:
  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member
    PeachyCarol wrote: »
    Can I ask a silly question. I vaguely remember reading something about there being different types of ketone bodies produced and one of them not turning the usual test strips positive?

    Am I remembering what I thought I read correctly? The whole time I did Atkins, I never once tested positive on those things.

    Acetoacetate is made in the liver, some of it decays spontaneously to acetone, much of it is converted to beta-hydroxybutyrate.

    Pee strips measure acetoacetate in urine, the concentration of which varies with multiple factors. False negatives are common.

    B-OHB is measured in blood with specific test strips in a blood glucose meter.

    Acetone in blood migrates into breath and can be measured by breathalysers.


    Doing Atkins wrong can result in never seeing a positive pee test, but the false negative issue means I wouldn't bother with them anyway.
  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member
    jonnybhoy wrote: »
    PeterJones123 wrote: »
    RAinWA wrote: »
    Can I ask a silly question. I vaguely remember reading something about there being different types of ketone bodies produced and one of them not turning the usual test strips positive?

    Am I remembering what I thought I read correctly? The whole time I did Atkins, I never once tested positive on those things.
    You probably where never in ketosis by consuming too much protein.
    How much protein is too much?

    The amount that inhibits ketosis ?

    Guidelines for a "well formulated keto diet" are 1.5 to 2 grams of protein per day per kg of ideal body weight.

    So if you were aiming to be 80 kg / 176 lbs then 120 - 160 grams per day.
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