Goal weight? How big of a deficit? Plateue?

ANT98
ANT98 Posts: 137 Member
I'm 15lbs from my weight goal: 150lb and healthy range is 135. My maintainence calories are supposedly 2200-2300. My weight has plateaued despite being in a deficit but I don't know if it's because I was eating more at a 30% deficit and body wasn't happy. Advice?

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  • IsaackGMOON
    IsaackGMOON Posts: 3,358 Member
    I'd recommend a moderate caloric deficit, -20% of your TDEE.

    As far as plateauing, it's just a series of elimination and trial and error;
    • Are you weighing your foods accurately? i.e. using grams instead of 'cups'
    • Are you getting your calorie burns from MFP or from a HRM?
  • BWBTrish
    BWBTrish Posts: 2,817 Member
    How long are you not losing weight

    and do you weigh all your food on a food scale or also using serving sizes and cups and spoons?
  • ANT98
    ANT98 Posts: 137 Member
    I'd recommend a moderate caloric deficit, -20% of your TDEE.

    As far as plateauing, it's just a series of elimination and trial and error;
    • Are you weighing your foods accurately? i.e. using grams instead of 'cups'
    • Are you getting your calorie burns from MFP or from a HRM?

    Been platueing for a month.
    Yes I do grams
    And I track from a heart rate monitor my calorie burn from exercise and as long as an all day thing, I sometimes use a bodymedia armband that says I burn 2400-2600 calories but I think that's an overestimation.
  • BWBTrish
    BWBTrish Posts: 2,817 Member
    and can you open your diary too.

    with what do you burn 2400 calories????
  • IsaackGMOON
    IsaackGMOON Posts: 3,358 Member
    alexxazt wrote: »
    I'd recommend a moderate caloric deficit, -20% of your TDEE.

    As far as plateauing, it's just a series of elimination and trial and error;
    • Are you weighing your foods accurately? i.e. using grams instead of 'cups'
    • Are you getting your calorie burns from MFP or from a HRM?

    Been platueing for a month.
    Yes I do grams
    And I track from a heart rate monitor my calorie burn from exercise and as long as an all day thing, I sometimes use a bodymedia armband that says I burn 2400-2600 calories but I think that's an overestimation.

    You use it for all day? That's probably where you're going wrong OP

    Go here: http://iifym.com/tdee-calculator/ calculate your TDEE and -20% of that... did you read the stickies?
  • ANT98
    ANT98 Posts: 137 Member
    and can you open your diary too.

    with what do you burn 2400 calories????


    The arm band says that, which I think is an overestimation.
    I ate 1600 and then someone suggested 1700-1800
  • ANT98
    ANT98 Posts: 137 Member
    alexxazt wrote: »
    I'd recommend a moderate caloric deficit, -20% of your TDEE.

    As far as plateauing, it's just a series of elimination and trial and error;
    • Are you weighing your foods accurately? i.e. using grams instead of 'cups'
    • Are you getting your calorie burns from MFP or from a HRM?

    Been platueing for a month.
    Yes I do grams
    And I track from a heart rate monitor my calorie burn from exercise and as long as an all day thing, I sometimes use a bodymedia armband that says I burn 2400-2600 calories but I think that's an overestimation.

    You use it for all day? That's probably where you're going wrong OP

    Go here: http://iifym.com/tdee-calculator/ calculate your TDEE and -20% of that... did you read the stickies?

    Why would it be bad all day? That's the purpose of the armband.
    I use a hrm chest monitor thing for only the workout
  • BWBTrish
    BWBTrish Posts: 2,817 Member
    can you open your diary?
  • IsaackGMOON
    IsaackGMOON Posts: 3,358 Member
    alexxazt wrote: »
    alexxazt wrote: »
    I'd recommend a moderate caloric deficit, -20% of your TDEE.

    As far as plateauing, it's just a series of elimination and trial and error;
    • Are you weighing your foods accurately? i.e. using grams instead of 'cups'
    • Are you getting your calorie burns from MFP or from a HRM?

    Been platueing for a month.
    Yes I do grams
    And I track from a heart rate monitor my calorie burn from exercise and as long as an all day thing, I sometimes use a bodymedia armband that says I burn 2400-2600 calories but I think that's an overestimation.

    You use it for all day? That's probably where you're going wrong OP

    Go here: http://iifym.com/tdee-calculator/ calculate your TDEE and -20% of that... did you read the stickies?

    Why would it be bad all day? That's the purpose of the armband.
    I use a hrm chest monitor thing for only the workout

    Oh, my mistake OP.
  • BWBTrish
    BWBTrish Posts: 2,817 Member
    alexxazt wrote: »
    and can you open your diary too.

    with what do you burn 2400 calories????


    The arm band says that, which I think is an overestimation.
    I ate 1600 and then someone suggested 1700-1800

    ok lol thought exercise i had something like huh????
  • ANT98
    ANT98 Posts: 137 Member

    Oh, my mistake OP.

    It's fine haha
  • BWBTrish
    BWBTrish Posts: 2,817 Member
    I think its your logging You dont weigh EVERYTHING

    1 medium apple???? very generetic Can be a jazz apple of 125 calories Can be a Fuji of 110 etc
    I see some cup and spoon and serving sizes ( dont believe serving sizes Weigh!!!)

    You eat more calories than you think

    look at this short video about how off you can be when you use cups and spoons

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVjWPclrWVY
  • Liftng4Lis
    Liftng4Lis Posts: 15,151 Member
    You're not in a deficit. You have tablespoons and cups, where items should be weighed, so use a food scale.
  • atypicalsmith
    atypicalsmith Posts: 2,742 Member
    Exercise more. Most people underestimates the power of exercising.
  • ANT98
    ANT98 Posts: 137 Member
    Liftng4Lis wrote: »
    You're not in a deficit. You have tablespoons and cups, where items should be weighed, so use a food scale.

    I use grams and find out how many calories are in that and then find the fruit or whatever matches. Like if 100 grams of an apple is 50 calories and my apple is 150 then I assume it's 75-85 calories.
    I guess looking up grams is better? I do weigh though. I just insert the calories that I calculated with te scale and serving size.
  • ysullivan7
    ysullivan7 Posts: 3 Member
    edited June 2015
    I'm not sure how accurate it is but I read that in order to lose weight you should intake 10 times the calories of your goal weight. Example: I want to be 130 lbs I need to consume 1,300 calories (130 lbs x 10). So if you do cardio and let's say burn 200 calories you could eat 1,500 that day. I've been doing this for two weeks and lost 2 lbs.
  • barbecuesauce
    barbecuesauce Posts: 1,771 Member
    alexxazt wrote: »
    Liftng4Lis wrote: »
    You're not in a deficit. You have tablespoons and cups, where items should be weighed, so use a food scale.

    I use grams and find out how many calories are in that and then find the fruit or whatever matches. Like if 100 grams of an apple is 50 calories and my apple is 150 then I assume it's 75-85 calories.
    I guess looking up grams is better? I do weigh though. I just insert the calories that I calculated with te scale and serving size.

    Well, the apple isn't going to be the problem here, but there are apple entries that have grams. And for "Jeff's Egg-Fried Egg," you could be eating more depending on how many calories the egg is (weighing by grams, you will find that most large eggs are more than 70 calories each) and what fat you fried them in. Better to weigh your raw egg and log it using the correct entry.

    I didn't go back any further, but it's always better to use the recipe builder than to rely on generic (if you do that). And be aware that a large banana could be 150g+.
  • misskarne
    misskarne Posts: 1,765 Member
    ysullivan7 wrote: »
    I'm not sure how accurate it is but I read that in order to lose weight you should intake the calories of your goal weight. Example: I want to be 130 lbs I need to consume 1,300 calories. So if you do cardio and let's say burn 200 calories you could eat 1,500 that day. I've been doing this for two weeks and lost 2 lbs.

    Excellent! I shall commence eating 6500 calories a day and I shall magically lose weight!
  • BWBTrish
    BWBTrish Posts: 2,817 Member
    edited June 2015
    its the logging for sure

    And a 100 gram fuiji or jazz aple are different calories
    And indeed it not the apple...but all together it adds up Check your entrees ( by going to the usda site for example)
    Because you have a small deficit ( your close to goal weight) and not much to lose..you start noticing these things by stalling or even gaining.

    You have no deficit!!!
  • ANT98
    ANT98 Posts: 137 Member
    alexxazt wrote: »
    Liftng4Lis wrote: »
    You're not in a deficit. You have tablespoons and cups, where items should be weighed, so use a food scale.

    I use grams and find out how many calories are in that and then find the fruit or whatever matches. Like if 100 grams of an apple is 50 calories and my apple is 150 then I assume it's 75-85 calories.
    I guess looking up grams is better? I do weigh though. I just insert the calories that I calculated with te scale and serving size.

    Well, the apple isn't going to be the problem here, but there are apple entries that have grams. And for "Jeff's Egg-Fried Egg," you could be eating more depending on how many calories the egg is (weighing by grams, you will find that most large eggs are more than 70 calories each) and what fat you fried them in. Better to weigh your raw egg and log it using the correct entry.

    I didn't go back any further, but it's always better to use the recipe builder than to rely on generic (if you do that). And be aware that a large banana could be 150g+.

    Ohh okay I'll try doing more of that to see if that changes stuff. Thanks!
  • ANT98
    ANT98 Posts: 137 Member
    ysullivan7 wrote: »
    I'm not sure how accurate it is but I read that in order to lose weight you should intake the calories of your goal weight. Example: I want to be 130 lbs I need to consume 1,300 calories. So if you do cardio and let's say burn 200 calories you could eat 1,500 that day. I've been doing this for two weeks and lost 2 lbs.

    Well I was talking to an online coach asking for some advice and he said that 1600 wasn't enough for me and not to go less. so I should up it to 1700-1800. I'm stuck between going up or down further in calories.
  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
    Whenever I log a food i search until I find the grams option.
    Veggies and fruit seems to be the most difficult to find. For some reason the majority of entries are in "cups" :disappointed:
  • ANT98
    ANT98 Posts: 137 Member
    Whenever I log a food i search until I find the grams option.
    Veggies and fruit seems to be the most difficult to find. For some reason the majority of entries are in "cups" :disappointed:

    Yeah I agree! Fruits are the absolute hardest because they always are different
  • BWBTrish
    BWBTrish Posts: 2,817 Member
    Whenever I log a food i search until I find the grams option.
    Veggies and fruit seems to be the most difficult to find. For some reason the majority of entries are in "cups" :disappointed:

    yes and ounces too lol
    but i have a converter I weigh everything in grams
    When my entree is good ( i checked the usda site always for new entrees) i use it and calculate how much it is in grams
    And like my grapes today the right entree is 1 cup 138 gram
    There is no 1 gram option so i calculate than i had 0.9 cup lol ( it wasnt 138 gram it were the last ones hehehe)

    But i make mostly my own entrees when i cant find the right option.

  • ysullivan7
    ysullivan7 Posts: 3 Member
    alexxazt wrote: »
    ysullivan7 wrote: »
    I'm not sure how accurate it is but I read that in order to lose weight you should intake the calories of your goal weight. Example: I want to be 130 lbs I need to consume 1,300 calories. So if you do cardio and let's say burn 200 calories you could eat 1,500 that day. I've been doing this for two weeks and lost 2 lbs.

    Well I was talking to an online coach asking for some advice and he said that 1600 wasn't enough for me and not to go less. so I should up it to 1700-1800. I'm stuck between going up or down further in calories.

    Yeah my trainer at my regular gym said it was too little calories but my trainer at the gym at work said it was just perfect. There are so many contradicting stuff out there and in the end you have to do what works for you.
  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
    It depends how hard or soft you cram your ingredients into the cup!
    My cup measurement could be completely different to the next persons..
  • BWBTrish
    BWBTrish Posts: 2,817 Member
    edited June 2015
    the best thing is to try it out folks...trainers dont know your body at all. Start at 1700 or 1800 Do this for 2 or 3 weeks
    no loss ...lower it a 100 and see again in 3 weeks.

    This works perfect when you weigh ALL your food!

    My calorie intake goes up with 100 till i reach maintenance level... ( i still have 20 to lose) but eating now around 1300 and next week i go to 1400....When i only have 10 to lose i go up to 1500. Almost maintenance for me. When i dont lose than my logging isnt right or i eat to much

    And this you can do the other way around too. Start with 2000 and take off 100 or 250 etc etc.
    But give it some weeks. Than be stable at one point When stalled again ( which means you dont have a deficit anymore) and you are sure you weigh everything right...take 100 off and wait some weeks and see what happens etc etc

    It is really not hard :)